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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Monday, December 17, 2018 09:19:14
    Normal, what's that? If I could become normal
    from that regimen, I might try it.
    Actually, normal is a setting on the washer or dryer. What appears to be
    so on the surface around here is an incredibly good fool the eye act.

    I read that as "cereal is ...". But normal is
    not cereal, and cereal should not be normal.

    Canned stuff lasts longer than people give
    it credit for, just so the container seams
    weren't soldered with something weird. But
    remember those old PSAs that said stuff like
    Beware the bulging or dented can!
    Some of these cans had rust on them. Home canned stuff that had been
    kept beyond a reasonable time frame had a coating of lint from a poorly vented dryer near the shelving unit where cans were stored. The last few years Steve and I often bought fresh veggies at the grocery store and
    cooked them, not trusting the quality of what we found at the house.

    Rust on the outside of cans need not have anything to
    do with the contents - it just bespeaks wet storage
    conditions, which can be hazardous but probably not
    until the the seal is completely breached.

    into > the quad-plex thru open doors. A few well placed traps took
    care of
    them, fast.
    Lucky the Hawaiian mice were so innocent.
    Seems so; we had them one day and in less than a week, they were gone.
    Either found a trap or found their way outside and avoided the trap.

    Not very enterprising, these mice. That's
    probably why people don't mind mice so much
    - rats are cleverer, more persistent, plus
    their poops are bigger.

    But bears don't have to be and are not
    known for being patient.
    No, and you don't expect them to be so in their own environment.
    Everywhere is their own environment. Where does a
    bear sleep? Anywhere he darn well wants to.
    Except I've never seen one sleep near a busy road, school, housing area,
    etc.

    I've never seen them sleep at all, actually.

    IIRC, Mom said she was in first grade; not many first graders would
    be > up on classical mythology.
    So was the dog the expected answer?
    No, the expected answer would have been "the newest planet".

    So current events are expected, classical
    mythology not so. If I were the teacher, I'd have
    been steeled for the Disney dog ahead of time.

    Race talk is always risky, and down south I'm not
    even going to think about touching any such topic.
    Not a topic of discussion in most of our circles.

    And in my case people who bring it up tend
    to be, shall we say, on a different wavelength
    from me.

    That may have something to do with it, but
    drones generally aren't given much of a voice
    to begin with.
    No, they are kept busy honey making and not concerned with what's
    going > on around them.
    One wonders if that's ever an enviable state.
    Might, in some circumstances.
    Yes, but it would be interesting to see if the meat is
    offered in > ML> other > flavorings. I might, for instance, want an Italian flavored > ML> meat pouch, > to use instead of southwestern.
    If the company expands and goes beyond its current
    niche market, maybe it'll happen.
    I'll have to check their web site and see what they offer.
    I'd not bother.
    Curiosity, as much as anything else.

    Funny what some can be curious about an others
    have no interest in.

    As far as I can tell, all experiences with cottage
    cheese are bad ones. Perhaps it was an early
    suspicion of things swimming in lactose-ridden
    whey. Which of course would have been prescient.
    The lactose intolerance does throw a different light on the matter.

    Also the fact that it looks like white chunks
    in ... uh ... I'd better not go on on this tack.

    That may have been the Fly Fest which we missed--still in Hi at that point.
    Might have been. I don't tend to keep track
    of what I made when.
    Have you ever not made it to a picnic?

    1992 - I wasn't active on FIDO;
    1994 - I asked for info on time and place but
    didn't get an answer; turned out Jim Marrs
    had inadvertently interrupted the Cooking
    Echo feed;
    1996 - didn't go to the Oregon picnic because it
    didn't seem to be worth the effort to meet
    Joanne Pierce; didn't go to the Texas one the
    month after because it was at the same time
    as the one I was hosting in Massachusetts.

    There have also been some that I've attended
    only part of because of summer theater or other
    obligations.

    I'd definitely not cut the salt. Mexican
    oregano, maybe, but seldom have I seen it -
    I've always substituted marjoram perhaps
    mixed with regular oregano.
    Depends on the availability of the Mexican oregano--I can get it any
    time I visit our daughters. (G)

    It thrives in zone 9 and above.

    ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.00

    Title: Enchilada Sauce
    Categories: Sauces, Mexican
    Yield: 6 servings

    3 Ancho Chiles 4 tb Flour
    3 Pasilla Chiles 3 c Chicken or beef stock
    (use
    2 Cloves garlic, crushed -chicken for cheese or
    1 sm Onion, minced Chicken enchiladas,
    beef for
    4 tb Lard or margarine (lard is -beef enchiladas)
    -better for the taste buds, 1 ts Mexican oregano
    -if not 1/2 ts Cumin
    For your body)

    Place the chiles on a cookie sheet, and roast in a 350 degree oven until
    slightly toasted (when you can smell them, they're done). Remove from the
    oven, and slit open. Remove the seeds and veins, then cover the chiles
    with boiling water. Allow to sit for about 30 minutes. remove the chiles
    from the water (reserve water), and scrape the pulp from the chiles.
    Discard the skins (which can give the mixture a bitter flavor.)

    Return the chile pulp to the soaking water and reserve.

    Saute the garlic and onion in the lard until very soft but not browned.
    Stir in the flour, and the stock. Stir until thickened, then add the
    chile
    pulp mixture. Add the spices, and simmer until thickened. Place the
    mixture
    in a blender, and blend until smooth. Season to taste with salt. If you
    want a hotter mixture, add cayenne to taste. Source unknown

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Tuesday, December 18, 2018 02:59:06
    On 12-17-18 08:19, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Ruth Haffly about 681 extended travel was <=-

    I'd definitely not cut the salt. Mexican
    oregano, maybe, but seldom have I seen it -
    I've always substituted marjoram perhaps
    mixed with regular oregano.
    Depends on the availability of the Mexican oregano--I can get it any
    time I visit our daughters. (G)

    It thrives in zone 9 and above.

    I don't know that we have ever had or seen it. How does it compare to
    the spicy oregano that we grow in a pot on the deck each year? I think
    that you have sampled that.

    This recipe talks about dehydrating and rehydrating. I think that is
    from the time that Gail was sending dehydrated vegetarian dishes to our
    son Bryan while he was deployed with the Army in the middle east.

    Of course, one could just skip that step for eating at home :-}}

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Lentil/Bean Taco Stew
    Categories: Testing, Vegetarian, Ww
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 c Dry lentils
    1/2 tb Olive oil
    1 c Onion, diced or more
    1 c Sweet pepper, diced
    -or more
    1 tb Garlic minced
    3/4 tb Chili powder
    1/2 ts Oregano
    1/2 ts Ground cumin (maybe less)
    1/8 ts Red pepper
    1/4 ts Kosher salt
    14 1/2 oz Can diced tomatoes,undrained
    See Note Dehydrate
    15 1/2 oz Can black beans, undrained
    15 1/2 oz Can kidney beans, drained
    1/2 sm Can green chilis--
    See Note Dehydrate
    ds Tabasco--
    See Note Dehydrate

    Dehydrating Note.

    For one version to dehydrate I used Rotel diced tomatoes/habanaro
    peppers and did not use canned chilis or tabasco. That version was
    hotter than the first version but very good.

    ******************************************

    Place lentils in large saucepan and cover with water by several
    inches - bring to a boil. Reduce heat to low and simmer until
    lentils are tender but retain a little bite - about 10-15 minutes,
    Drain and set aside.

    Heat oil in large nonstick pan over medium heat. Cook onion, pepper
    and garlic stirring often until veggies are softened - about 10
    minutes.

    Combine spices - combining well add to skillet or pot . Stir often
    for one minute.

    Add tomatoes and their juice and beans to skillet. Stir to combine.
    Cover skillet and simmer so flavors will blend about 10 minutes.

    Fold in lentils and serve.

    Refrigerate to dehydrate later. Divide into 4 (12 oz) servings.
    Dehydrate at 125 degrees for 16 hours. Started 12 oz - dehydrated
    down to 3.4 oz.

    Variation of recipe from:
    Weightwatchers.com 1/10/11 (called Lentil and Black Bean Chili)

    Wet weight 12.95 oz Dry weight 4:15 oz.

    To rehydrate add 3/4 cup boiling water, cover, place in fridge for 30
    minutes or longer. If necessary add another 1/4 cup water.

    Serve as lentil stew or over large salad for taco salad.

    MMMMM


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Monday, December 17, 2018 17:26:17
    Hi Michael,

    Normal, what's that? If I could become normal
    from that regimen, I might try it.
    Actually, normal is a setting on the washer or dryer. What appears
    to be > so on the surface around here is an incredibly good fool the
    eye act.

    I read that as "cereal is ...". But normal is
    not cereal, and cereal should not be normal.

    Some cereal is normal, but not much, not often. I was brought up with it
    as the norm for breakfast--alternating days of oatmeal and cream of
    wheat from September to end of May-ish, then various cold cereals over
    the summer. Worst of those was Puffed Rice, best???????. I had no say in
    what was chosen and had to eat it, period, end of conversation.


    Canned stuff lasts longer than people give
    it credit for, just so the container seams
    weren't soldered with something weird. But
    remember those old PSAs that said stuff like
    Beware the bulging or dented can!
    Some of these cans had rust on them. Home canned stuff that had been kept beyond a reasonable time frame had a coating of lint from a
    poorly > vented dryer near the shelving unit where cans were stored.
    The last few > years Steve and I often bought fresh veggies at the
    grocery store and > cooked them, not trusting the quality of what we
    found at the house.

    Rust on the outside of cans need not have anything to
    do with the contents - it just bespeaks wet storage
    conditions, which can be hazardous but probably not
    until the the seal is completely breached.

    I'd still be dubious of what my parents had long term stored in the
    cellar. Within a few months, stuff would have been OK, but years....
    would have been very questionable.

    into > the quad-plex thru open doors. A few well placed traps
    took > ML> care of
    them, fast.
    Lucky the Hawaiian mice were so innocent.
    Seems so; we had them one day and in less than a week, they were
    gone. > Either found a trap or found their way outside and avoided the trap.

    Not very enterprising, these mice. That's
    probably why people don't mind mice so much
    - rats are cleverer, more persistent, plus
    their poops are bigger.

    And put more of a scare in you when they run out in front of you.

    environment. > ML> Everywhere is their own environment. Where does a
    bear sleep? Anywhere he darn well wants to.
    Except I've never seen one sleep near a busy road, school, housing
    area, > etc.

    I've never seen them sleep at all, actually.

    I have, in zoos. (G)

    IIRC, Mom said she was in first grade; not many first graders
    would > ML> be > up on classical mythology.
    So was the dog the expected answer?
    No, the expected answer would have been "the newest planet".

    So current events are expected, classical
    mythology not so. If I were the teacher, I'd have
    been steeled for the Disney dog ahead of time.

    May have been a young teacher in her first assignment and not expecting
    an answer like that.

    Race talk is always risky, and down south I'm not
    even going to think about touching any such topic.
    Not a topic of discussion in most of our circles.

    And in my case people who bring it up tend
    to be, shall we say, on a different wavelength
    from me.

    Usually the same here.

    Yes, but it would be interesting to see if the meat is
    offered in > ML> other > flavorings. I might, for instance,
    want an > ML> Italian flavored > ML> meat pouch, > to use instead of southwestern. > ML> > ML> If the company expands and goes beyond its current
    niche market, maybe it'll happen.
    I'll have to check their web site and see what they offer.
    I'd not bother.
    Curiosity, as much as anything else.

    Funny what some can be curious about an others
    have no interest in.

    Quite true. (G)

    cheese are bad ones. Perhaps it was an early
    suspicion of things swimming in lactose-ridden
    whey. Which of course would have been prescient.
    The lactose intolerance does throw a different light on the matter.

    Also the fact that it looks like white chunks
    in ... uh ... I'd better not go on on this tack.

    Dropped.


    That may have been the Fly Fest which we missed--still in Hi
    at that > ML> > point.
    Might have been. I don't tend to keep track
    of what I made when.
    Have you ever not made it to a picnic?

    1992 - I wasn't active on FIDO;
    1994 - I asked for info on time and place but
    didn't get an answer; turned out Jim Marrs
    had inadvertently interrupted the Cooking
    Echo feed;
    1996 - didn't go to the Oregon picnic because it
    didn't seem to be worth the effort to meet
    Joanne Pierce; didn't go to the Texas one the
    month after because it was at the same time
    as the one I was hosting in Massachusetts.

    There have also been some that I've attended
    only part of because of summer theater or other
    obligations.

    OK, we made it to the 2007, 2008, 2010 picnics, then IIRC, 2015-current.
    We started with Fido in January, 1994, out in AZ. Moved from there to
    HI in 2001, then to GA in 2006. After that move we were finally able to
    attend Fido picnics.

    I'd definitely not cut the salt. Mexican
    oregano, maybe, but seldom have I seen it -
    I've always substituted marjoram perhaps
    mixed with regular oregano.
    Depends on the availability of the Mexican oregano--I can get it any time I visit our daughters. (G)

    It thrives in zone 9 and above.

    So we could grow it here if we wanted to.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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