• 671 was was overflow

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Saturday, December 15, 2018 12:22:46
    (microgreens)
    If they were particularly wonderful or
    particularly intoxicating or in fact
    particularly almost anything other than
    nasty, I'd be willing to give them a try.
    It's one way to get your veggies, fast and easy. Don't know how tasty
    tho.

    I don't need many veggies (if any), and I'm not
    sure anyone does!

    At that point, I'd go with the shots, only if I couldn't have the veggies closer to their original form.
    My choice might lean toward death anyway.
    I'm not so sure I would.

    Your choice, my choice, as someone I know
    likes to say.

    I like the chicken breast, if it's not dried out. My main complaint
    They need lots of help, so for those of us
    who are not (putting it mildly in my case)
    afraid of fat, there's no reason to eat them.
    They can be good, fixed the right way. One of our friends in Savannah
    baked them with a plum preserves sauce/coating--quite good that way, and moist.

    I roasted a chicken the other day and
    protected the breast by putting garlic cloves
    under the skin. It was close to perfect, too,
    with the meat just pink when I took the bird out
    of the oven and just white when the time came to
    serve. The delicate garlic perfume made the
    white meat rather tasty.

    about pork loin is the cost; I'll usually spend less on chops.
    My beef with pork tenderloin is that it needs as
    much help as white chicken. When the pig farmers'
    lobby came up with that Other White Meat stuff,
    they weren't kidding.
    Again, your choice, my choice.
    served over veggie spirals. I'd have cut the red pepper
    flakes a bit > ML> but
    Heh - I'd have increased the red pepper no
    doubt.
    Probably so, but to me, it was just a bit overpowering for the
    veggies.
    I put a teaspoonful of Dale's extra hot Indian
    pepper (now coming to its end) in my supper
    two days ago - it was barely enough, but on
    stage afterward it was two hours of Kegels.
    Not a fun time.

    Good practice for real life.

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    Title: Golden Raisin Loaves
    Categories: Breads, Fruits, Yeast
    Servings: 10

    2 c Whole wheat flour; stirred 1/4 c Sugar
    2 pk Active dry yeast; or 2 ts Active dry yeast; bulk
    1 ts Salt 2 ts Cinnamon; ground
    3/4 c Water 1/3 c Butter or regular
    margarine
    1/2 c Buttermilk 2 Eggs; lg
    1 1/2 c Raisins; golden 2 1/2 c Unbleached flour;
    sifted
    Vegetable oil ------vanilla frosting------
    2 c Confectioners' sugar 1/4 ts Vanilla
    2 1/2 ts Milk

    NOTE: The amount of flour can vary from 2 1/4 to 2 3/4 cups depending on
    Stir 1 3/4 cups of the whole wheat flour, sugar, undissolved yeast, salt
    and cinnamon together in a large mixing bowl. Heat the water and butter
    in
    a saucepan over low heat to very warm (120-130 degrees F.). Remove from
    the
    heat and stir in the buttermilk. Add to the flour-yeast mixture and
    beat,
    with an electric mixer on medium speed, until smooth, about 2 minutes.
    Add
    the eggs and beat an additional 2 minutes, then stir in the raisins.
    Gradually add the remaining 1/4 cup of whole wheat flour and enough white
    flour to make a stiff but light dough. (Heaviness indicates too much
    flour
    and the bread will not rise correctly.) Let rest for 5 minutes. Turn the
    dough out onto a lightly floured surface and knead until smooth, about 5
    to
    8 minutes. Cover with the mixing bowl and let rest for 30 minutes. Punch
    the dough down and divide in half. Let rest 10 minutes, then roll each
    half to a 12 X 7-inch rectangle. Beginning at the 7-inch side, roll up
    tightly like a jelly roll and seal the edges. Tuck the ends under to form
    rounded edges, (the loaf should be about 7 X 3-inches in size). Place on
    a
    greased baking sheet. Brush with oil and repeat for the second batch of
    dough. Cover and let rise in a warm place until almost doubled, about 30
    minutes. Bake in a preheated 375 degree F. oven for 25 minutes or until
    the loaves sound hollow when tapped. Remove from the baking sheet and
    cool
    on wire racks for 20 minutes. Frost with the vanilla icing if desired.
    VANILLA ICING: Combine the sugar, vanilla, and milk in a bowl and beat
    until smooth. Source unknown

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Sunday, December 16, 2018 20:55:34
    Hi Michael,

    (microgreens)
    If they were particularly wonderful or
    particularly intoxicating or in fact
    particularly almost anything other than
    nasty, I'd be willing to give them a try.
    It's one way to get your veggies, fast and easy. Don't know how
    tasty > tho.

    I don't need many veggies (if any), and I'm not
    sure anyone does!

    We eat a good number of them, especailly in summer when they're freshest
    and inexpensive.


    At that point, I'd go with the shots, only if I couldn't have
    the > ML> > veggies closer to their original form.
    My choice might lean toward death anyway.
    I'm not so sure I would.

    Your choice, my choice, as someone I know
    likes to say.

    Exactly so!


    I like the chicken breast, if it's not dried out. My main
    complaint > ML> They need lots of help, so for those of us
    who are not (putting it mildly in my case)
    afraid of fat, there's no reason to eat them.
    They can be good, fixed the right way. One of our friends in
    Savannah > baked them with a plum preserves sauce/coating--quite good
    that way, and > moist.

    I roasted a chicken the other day and
    protected the breast by putting garlic cloves
    under the skin. It was close to perfect, too,
    with the meat just pink when I took the bird out
    of the oven and just white when the time came to
    serve. The delicate garlic perfume made the
    white meat rather tasty.

    Sounds good. I'm not adverse to the use of garlic, just never tried
    putting it under chicken skin--yet.

    Heh - I'd have increased the red pepper no
    doubt.
    Probably so, but to me, it was just a bit overpowering for
    the > ML> veggies.
    I put a teaspoonful of Dale's extra hot Indian
    pepper (now coming to its end) in my supper
    two days ago - it was barely enough, but on
    stage afterward it was two hours of Kegels.
    Not a fun time.

    Good practice for real life.

    True, and not to be concerned with currently.


    Title: Golden Raisin Loaves
    Categories: Breads, Fruits, Yeast
    Servings: 10

    Looks good. Of course you know we would sub out whole wheat flour for
    the white flour called for in the recipe.

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ruth Haffly on Tuesday, December 18, 2018 03:26:12
    On 12-16-18 19:55, Ruth Haffly <=-
    spoke to Michael Loo about 671 was was overflow <=-

    I roasted a chicken the other day and
    protected the breast by putting garlic cloves
    under the skin. It was close to perfect, too,
    with the meat just pink when I took the bird out
    of the oven and just white when the time came to
    serve. The delicate garlic perfume made the
    white meat rather tasty.

    Sounds good. I'm not adverse to the use of garlic, just never tried putting it under chicken skin--yet.

    You could also stick a lemon and some oregano inside the chicken. That
    sort of approaches a Greek style.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Firefighters Rice For Life
    Categories: Rice
    Yield: 1 Servings

    2 1/2 c Chicken broth
    1 c Brown rice, uncooked
    1/3 c Lentils, uncooked
    Vegetable cooking spray
    1/2 c Carrot, chopped
    1/2 c Green onions, thinly sliced
    1/4 c Slivered almonds
    3 tb Honey
    1/4 c Dried apricots, chopped
    1/4 c Dried apples, chopped
    1/4 ts Red pepper flakes

    In a 2- to 3-quart saucepan, combine the broth, rice, and lentils.
    Bring to a boil and reduce the heat. Cover and simmer for 45 minutes
    or until the rice and lentils are tender and the liquid is absorbed.
    Remove from the heat and fluff with a fork.

    Coat a large skillet with the vegetable cooking spray and heat over
    medium-high heat until hot. Add the carrot, green onions, almonds,
    and honey. Cook for 3 to 5 minutes or until the carrots are tender
    and the almonds are brown. Add the rice/lentil mixture, the
    apricots, apples, and red pepper flakes. Cook and stir for 3 minutes
    until well blended and heat through.

    Makes 6 servings.

    Per serving: 252 calories, 7g protein, 5g fat, 47g carbohydrate,
    3g dietary fiber, 0mg cholesterol, and 390mg sodium

    Recipe: Lieutenant Dan Deneen, 3rd District Headquarters, Chicago,
    IL. From a giveaway pamphlet from the U.S.A. Rice Council titled,
    "Great Firehouse Chefs Of America, Award-Winning Recipes"

    From: David Pileggi Date: 10 Mar 95
    International Cooking Echo Ä

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dale Shipp on Tuesday, December 18, 2018 16:49:53
    Hi Dale,

    I roasted a chicken the other day and
    protected the breast by putting garlic cloves
    under the skin. It was close to perfect, too,
    with the meat just pink when I took the bird out
    of the oven and just white when the time came to
    serve. The delicate garlic perfume made the
    white meat rather tasty.

    Sounds good. I'm not adverse to the use of garlic, just never tried putting it under chicken skin--yet.

    You could also stick a lemon and some oregano inside the chicken.
    That sort of approaches a Greek style.

    Our choice is either an apple or an onion. With the latter or sometimes
    with other herbs, we will also add a sprig of fresh rosemary. Our
    chickens are sometimes done on a rotisserie over charcoal, sometimes
    baked in an oven or sometimes smoked. The method of cooking depends on
    the time available and the weather--heavy rain or snow, we do it inside.
    Light rain or none, usually outside.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ruth Haffly on Monday, August 26, 2019 03:46:02
    On 08-24-19 17:09, Ruth Haffly <=-
    spoke to Nancy Backus about Piggly Wiggly was:350 <=-

    more in PA)... I say I helped raise the younger 4... only helped
    with the ones closer in age to me.... ;)

    Helping as much as a 3 year old can--fetching diapers and such like. I didn't help raise younger siblings as they were too close in age for
    me.

    In that day, were the diapers cloth or pamper type? We only used the
    cloth, and I used them for years after in projects such as rubbing in
    stains and waxes on furniture.

    As probably a number of folks in that town did. I suspect the
    rotisserie chickens were big sellers.

    Probably... :)

    Easy for those that couldn't do (or didn't want to do) much real
    cooking, especially if they were single. Cooking for one is hard but a
    pre roasted whole chicken will last for several meals.

    We got a BJs rotisserie chicken yesterday. Tonight was our second meal.
    I expect that there will be at least three more to come. At a price of
    $4.99 for a 3+ pound bird, I'd find it difficult to beat that doing it
    myself. A chicken would cost more than $3.00 and then there is a cost
    of cooking it, etc.

    Almost the only carbs for this recipe would be whatever bread you use
    with it (if any).

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    Title: Spicy Beef Brisket Sandwiches
    Categories: Sandwich, Beef
    Yield: 1 Servings

    1 tb Coarse Kosher salt
    1 ts Black pepper, coarsely
    Cracked
    2 ts Sweet Hungarian paprika
    1/2 ts Cayenne pepper, if desired
    1/2 ts Ground cumin
    3 lb Brisket of beef (half a
    Brisket)
    Variety of rolls
    Mustard (preferably a
    Variety) and horseradish,
    As condiment

    Preheat oven to 275 to 300 degrees F.

    Combine the salt, black pepper, paprika, cayenne, and cumin. Rub onto
    both sides of the meat. Place meat in covered pan and bake for about
    4 hours (meat should be tender enough to come apart easily). Cool
    slightly and slice meat thinly to serve. (An electric knife makes
    that easier).

    Meat can be cooked a day in advance and refrigerated. In a covered
    pan, reheat the brisket in a preheated 300 to 350 degrees F. over for
    about 30 to 45 minutes; add a little water to pan so meat does not dry
    out. Slice when reheated, to keep the meat moister than if you do it
    in advance. The meat will be so tender that very little actual
    slicing is necessary.

    Serve meat with a variety of rolls, and several mustards and
    horseradish as condiments.

    Makes 10 to 12 servings or more. For 25 people, either triple or
    quadruple the recipe, depending on the guests, and plan, similarly,
    for 3 to 4 dozen rolls.

    Per 4 ounce serving meat only: 3 high fat meat

    about 284 calories, 21 gm fat,
    111 mg cholesterol, 602 mg sodium,
    9 mg calcium, 20 gm protein,
    1 gm carbohydrate

    Recipe: Lee Svitak Dean
    Qty Measurement Ingredient

    From: David Pileggi Date: 06-26
    Cooking Ä

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dale Shipp on Monday, August 26, 2019 14:47:42
    Hi Dale,


    more in PA)... I say I helped raise the younger 4... only helped
    with the ones closer in age to me.... ;)

    Helping as much as a 3 year old can--fetching diapers and such like. I didn't help raise younger siblings as they were too close in age for
    me.

    In that day, were the diapers cloth or pamper type? We only used the cloth, and I used them for years after in projects such as rubbing in stains and waxes on furniture.

    My mom used cloth diapers with us (except when she and my
    older-newborn-brother travelled from Buffalo, NY to her childhood home
    in NJ. She said she tried a disposable called Chux, and her opinion was
    that the name fit her opinion of them. I used mostly cloth diapers
    (except for travel) with my girls. Steve used the old ones for polishing
    boots for many years.

    As probably a number of folks in that town did. I suspect the
    rotisserie chickens were big sellers.

    Probably... :)

    Easy for those that couldn't do (or didn't want to do) much real
    cooking, especially if they were single. Cooking for one is hard but a
    pre roasted whole chicken will last for several meals.

    We got a BJs rotisserie chicken yesterday. Tonight was our second
    meal. I expect that there will be at least three more to come. At a
    price of $4.99 for a 3+ pound bird, I'd find it difficult to beat that doing it
    myself. A chicken would cost more than $3.00 and then there is a cost
    of cooking it, etc.

    We get them from time to time at Sam's Club for about the same price.
    They last several meals for us, then the carcasses get cooked down,
    using the stock for soup or just keeping it for stock.


    Almost the only carbs for this recipe would be whatever bread you use
    with it (if any).

    Title: Spicy Beef Brisket Sandwiches
    Categories: Sandwich, Beef
    Yield: 1 Servings


    Looks good, and a good hard roll (or kimmelwick) would be good with it.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Thursday, August 29, 2019 14:46:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Ruth Haffly on 08-26-19 03:46 <=-

    more in PA)... I say I helped raise the younger 4... only helped
    with the ones closer in age to me.... ;)
    Helping as much as a 3 year old can--fetching diapers and such
    like. I didn't help raise younger siblings as they were too close
    in age for me.

    In that day, were the diapers cloth or pamper type? We only used the cloth, and I used them for years after in projects such as rubbing in stains and waxes on furniture.

    My mom only used the cloth diapers also... I got to help wash them,
    too... ;) And fold them... and change the dirty ones.... I used them
    for my kid, too (even though the disposables were available)... My mother-in-law gave me a present of diaper service for the first few
    months, which was a very sweet thing to do... We also bought cloth
    diapers to supplement at first, and then eventually switched over to
    just our own diapers.... And you are very right about the usefulness of
    them in later years... ;)

    As probably a number of folks in that town did. I suspect the
    rotisserie chickens were big sellers.
    Probably... :)
    Easy for those that couldn't do (or didn't want to do) much real
    cooking, especially if they were single. Cooking for one is hard
    but a pre roasted whole chicken will last for several meals.

    We got a BJs rotisserie chicken yesterday. Tonight was our second
    meal. I expect that there will be at least three more to come. At a
    price of $4.99 for a 3+ pound bird, I'd find it difficult to beat that doing it myself. A chicken would cost more than $3.00 and then there
    is a cost of cooking it, etc.

    To say nothing of the effort of cooking it... As I just told Ruth, I
    bought one from Wegmans to take with me to Selkirk Shores for my
    family's camping.... Made my cooking for one a lot simpler... and didn't
    heat up the cabin, either... ;)

    As neither Richard or I is much of a fan of the white meat chicken, I
    rarely would buy a whole chicken anyway, but he's ok with getting the occasional rotisserie chicken... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Ruth Haffly on Thursday, August 29, 2019 23:10:10
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dale Shipp <=-

    Steve used the old ones for polishing boots for many years.

    I have diaper cloths that I bought in basic training in fall/winter 1995
    that I still use for polishing my leather shoes. The pair of shoes I
    wear to Taco Bell are a pair of genuine leather Dr. Scholls work shoes
    that are quite comfy with my orthotics in them. I shine them up weekly
    while I watch a movie. I usually get an average of four coats of Kiwi
    on each shoe, brushing and shining in between. That shine usually lasts
    a week or so depending on how trashed they get at work. Since I work
    nights, the store gets a lot of its nightly cleaning done during my
    shift so I walk through cleaners and what-not. Those $70 shoes have
    lasted me much longer than much more expensive work shoes have.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Hunters Chicken
    Categories: Main dish, Chicken, Seandennis
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 T Vegetable oil
    4 Chicken breasts, bone-in
    1 t Salt
    1/2 t Fresh-ground black pepper
    1 T Butter
    1 Onion, chopped
    3/4 lb Mushrooms, sliced
    2 Cloves garlic, minced
    1 T Flour
    1/2 c White wine
    2/3 c Chicken broth
    1 c Canned crushed tomatoes,
    --drained
    1/4 t Dried thyme
    1/4 t Rosemary

    Prep time : 15 minutes
    Cook time : 35 minutes
    Total time: 50 minutes

    In a large, deep frying pan, heat the oil on med-high heat. Season
    the chicken with the 1/4 teaspoon of the salt and pepper, and add to
    the hot pan. Cook until browned, turning, about 10 minutes. Remove
    chicken and reserve. Pour off all but a tablespoon of the oil from
    the pan. Add butter to the pan and reduce the heat to med-low. Add
    the onion and cook until softened, about 5 minutes.

    Raise heat to med-high, and add the mushrooms. Cook, stirring
    occasionally, until the vegetables are browned, about 5 minutes. Add
    flour and garlic, and cook for 1 minute. Stir in the white wine, and
    bring back to a simmer. Add the broth, tomatoes, thyme, rosemary,
    pepper, and the remaining salt. Add the reserved chicken and any
    juices. Reduce heat to med-low and simmer, covered, until the
    chicken is done, about 10-12 minutes.

    NOTE: If you don't have a deep frying pan, brown everything in a
    regular frying pan, and transfer to a kettle for the final simmering.

    [Sean's note: If you don't cook with alcohol, try substituting the
    white wine with water, chicken broth, white grape juice, or ginger
    ale.]

    From:
    http://americanfood.about.com/od/meatsandpoultry/r/hunterchic.htm

    MM'd by Sean Dennis on 25 October 2014.

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    Sean


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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Sean Dennis on Friday, August 30, 2019 12:06:28
    Sean Dennis wrote to Ruth Haffly <=-

    Steve used the old ones for polishing boots for many years.

    I have diaper cloths that I bought in basic training in fall/winter
    1995 that I still use for polishing my leather shoes. The pair of
    shoes I wear to Taco Bell are a pair of genuine leather Dr. Scholls
    work shoes that are quite comfy with my orthotics in them. I shine
    them up weekly while I watch a movie. I usually get an average of four coats of Kiwi on each shoe, brushing and shining in between. That
    shine usually lasts a week or so depending on how trashed they get at work. Since I work nights, the store gets a lot of its nightly
    cleaning done during my shift so I walk through cleaners and what-not. Those $70 shoes have lasted me much longer than much more expensive
    work shoes have.

    You mean you don't (gasp) "spit shine" your shoes? That's a practice I
    learned (and learned to hate) as a high school freshman in R.O.T.C. Oh,
    and if you run out of didys old tee shirts work very well. Bv)=

    BTW - don't try to replace the Kiwi with Shinola. Won't work. I do know
    #### from Shinola.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Kiwi-Lemon Pie
    Categories: Pies, Desserts, Fruits, Citrus
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 1/4 c Milk
    1 1/8 c Granulated sugar
    3 lb Cornstarch
    3 lg Egg yolks; lightly beaten
    3 Lemons; juice only
    Grated zest of 2 lemons
    1 ts Vanilla extract
    1 c Lemon marmalade
    3 Kiwi Fruit; peeled, sliced *

    MMMMM------------------------PIE CRUST------------------------------
    1 1/4 c Graham cracker crumbs
    1/3 c Melted butter
    1/4 c Sugar

    * Chinese gooseberries

    Preheat oven to 325°F/165°C. Make pie crust by combining
    cracker crumbs, sugar, and butter. Press crust mixture
    into a pie tin and refrigerate until ready to use.

    Heat milk in top of double boiler over simmering water.
    Mix sugar with cornstarch and whisk into milk. Add lemon
    juice, zest, and vanilla and blend thoroughly. Pour
    mixture into pie shell.

    Bake for 25 minutes in middle of oven or until set. Cool
    pie for 10 minutes.

    Melt marmalade over low heat and brush thin layer over
    surface of pie. Arrange kiwis in overlapping layer to
    cover top of pie completely.

    Brush again with remaining marmalade and cool before
    cutting.

    Recipe By: THE DESSERT SHOW SHOW #DS3021

    Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Dave Drum on Friday, August 30, 2019 09:28:45
    Hello Dave.

    30 Aug 19 12:06, you wrote to me:

    You mean you don't (gasp) "spit shine" your shoes? That's a practice I learned (and learned to hate) as a high school freshman in R.O.T.C.
    Oh, and if you run out of didys old tee shirts work very well. Bv)=

    I do know how to "spit shine" but I found that if I wipe the shoes off with all-purpose cleaner (a la Formula 409 and the like) before I shine them, the shine works better.

    BTW - don't try to replace the Kiwi with Shinola. Won't work. I do
    know #### from Shinola.

    I've tried Shinola before and you're right. It works like the former. ;)

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: New Zealand Kiwi Cheesecake
    Categories: Cakes, Cheese, Cheesecakes, Desserts, Fruits
    Yield: 10 Servings

    MMMMM---------------------------CRUST--------------------------------
    1 1/2 c Graham Cracker Crumbs
    1/4 c Sugar; Granulated

    MMMMM-------------------------CHEESECAKE------------------------------
    1 1/2 lb Cream Cheese
    1 t Vanilla Extract
    1 c Sugar; Granulated
    1/4 t Salt
    4 ea Eggs; Large, Slightly Beaten

    MMMMM--------------------------TOPPING-------------------------------
    1 c Sour Cream
    2 ea Kiwi Fruits; Peeled & Sliced
    2 tb Milk
    1/2 t Vanilla Extract
    6 tb Butter; Melted
    3 tb Confectioners' Sugar

    Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F. Place the crumbs in a mixing bowl
    and add the butter (NO Margarine) and sugar. Blend well. Press the
    mixture onto the bottom and partly up the sides of a greased 9-inch
    springform pan. Smooth the crumb mixture along the bottom to an even
    thickness. Bake for 10 minutes in the preheated oven. Cool before
    filling. CHEESECAKE: Preheat the oven to 350 degrees F. In a large
    mixing bowl, beat together the cream cheese, milk, salt, and vanilla
    until well blended. Add the eggs and sugar and continue to beat until
    light and creamy. Pour the mixture into the prepared crust and bake
    for 35 minutes, or until lightly browned; the cake should be set in
    the middle. Remove the cake from the oven and cool for 10 minutes.
    Prepare the topping by mixing together, the sour cream, sugar, and
    vanilla. Spread the topping over the top of the cake. Return the
    cake to the oven and bake for 15 minutes more. Cool to room
    temperature; then refrigerate until chilled. Just before serving,
    garnish the top of the cake with slices of Kiwi fruit.

    MMMMM

    Later,
    Sean

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Nancy Backus on Saturday, August 31, 2019 02:10:00
    On 08-29-19 14:46, Nancy Backus <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Chicken <=-

    As neither Richard or I is much of a fan of the white meat chicken, I rarely would buy a whole chicken anyway, but he's ok with getting the occasional rotisserie chicken... :)

    It seems that the rotisserie chickens we get from BJs are all white
    meat, except for a little bit of the drumstick meat.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: CHICKEN-VEGETABLE SANDWICH FILLING
    Categories: Sandwiches, Poultry
    Yield: 6 Servings

    1 1/2 c Chicken, cooked
    -- (finely chopped)
    1/2 c Carrot, shredded
    1/2 c Celery, shredded
    4 ts Onion, grated
    1/4 c Salad dressing (mayonnaise)

    Thoroughly mix all ingredients. Chill. Use about 1/4 cup filing per
    sandwich.

    Calories per serving: About 100 for filling, 235 for a sandwich made
    with 2 slices of bread.

    VARIATION: Tuna-Vegetable Sandwich Filling -- Use a 9-1/2-ounce can
    of tuna in place of the chicken. About 125 calories per serving for
    filling; 260 for a sandwich made with 2 slices of bread.

    NOTE: Filling can be made the day before using. Store tightly
    covered in the refrigerator. Stir lightly before making sandwiches.

    Source: FOOD -- by U.S. Department of Agriculture Typed for you by
    Karen Mintzias

    MMMMM


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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Dale Shipp on Saturday, August 31, 2019 12:07:54
    Dale Shipp wrote to Nancy Backus <=-

    As neither Richard or I is much of a fan of the white meat chicken, I rarely would buy a whole chicken anyway, but he's ok with getting the occasional rotisserie chicken... :)

    It seems that the rotisserie chickens we get from BJs are all white
    meat, except for a little bit of the drumstick meat.

    I wonder what manner of "cruel and unusual" practices they use to keep
    the thighs from being dark meat. And why haven't the P(E/I)TA (choose
    your spelling) whackoes made cause celebre of it before now? AFAIK and
    have observed the darkness of the meat is from blood pumping through
    the flesh as "work" is being done. Those birds almost certainly would
    have to have remained immobile throughout their brief caged lives.

    I've seen some battery chicken thighs which were pretty light - but
    still, no question, dark meat. I've also seen, but not recently, breast
    meat from free-range, farmyard chickens that was nearly as dark as the
    above mentioned thighs.

    For years scientists have been developing meat in the lab using cells
    from living animals. It could soon provide an alternative to today's
    factory farming - requiring less land and being more environmentally
    friendly. I first saw this last spring in my Israel 21 newsletter. It's
    long in the bit bucket but here's a link to a decent Reuters article if
    you'd care to learn more.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/science-chicken-idUSL5N0WE2EE20150312

    While if this comes to pass the P(E/I)TA people will not be able to call
    out "animal cruelty" it probably won't quiet totally their deep need
    to P&M about something. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Deviled Chicken Thighs
    Categories: Five, Poultry, Chilies, Vegetables
    Yield: 4 servings

    8 Chicken thighs
    +=OR=+
    4 Chicken leg quarters;
    - separated
    Salt & fresh ground pepper
    1/3 c Dijon mustard
    1/3 c Minced shallots, onion or
    - scallion
    1/4 ts Ground cayenne; to taste
    +=OR=+
    1/4 ts Tabasco sauce; to taste
    Minced parsley; optional
    - garnish

    Heat the broiler to its maximum, and set the rack about
    4" from the heat. Season the chicken with salt and
    pepper on both sides, and place it in a pan, skin side
    up. Broil, watching carefully, until the skin is golden
    brown, about 5 minutes.

    Meanwhile, combine the mustard, shallots and cayenne.
    (If you have a small food processor, you can chop the
    shallots by throwing them in with the mustard and
    pulsing the machine on and off a few times.)

    When the chicken has browned, remove it from oven, and
    turn it. Spread just a teaspoon or so of the mustard
    mixture on the underside of the chicken, and broil about
    5 minutes. Turn the chicken, and spread the remaining
    mixture on the upper, or skin side. Broil until mustard
    begins to brown.

    At this point, the chicken may be done. If it is not
    done, turn off the broiler and leave the chicken in the
    oven 5 more minutes or so. Garnish and serve.

    by Mark Bittman

    YIELD: 4 servings

    RECIPE FROM: https://cooking.nytimes.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Sean Dennis on Friday, August 30, 2019 14:25:10
    Hi Sean,

    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dale Shipp <=-

    Steve used the old ones for polishing boots for many years.

    I have diaper cloths that I bought in basic training in fall/winter
    1995 that I still use for polishing my leather shoes. The pair of

    Steve had been active duty for 12 years by then. He still had a few
    diapers in use for boot polishing tho. (G)

    shoes I
    wear to Taco Bell are a pair of genuine leather Dr. Scholls work shoes that are quite comfy with my orthotics in them. I shine them up
    weekly while I watch a movie. I usually get an average of four coats
    of Kiwi
    on each shoe, brushing and shining in between. That shine usually
    lasts a week or so depending on how trashed they get at work. Since I

    That's quite a work out but good for the shoes. Do you use a bit or
    water with the polish? That was a tip Steve picked up somewhere along
    the line; he used it until the new (ACU) uniform came out with the suede
    boots that didn't need polishing. They just got brushed.


    work
    nights, the store gets a lot of its nightly cleaning done during my
    shift so I walk through cleaners and what-not. Those $70 shoes have lasted me much longer than much more expensive work shoes have.

    Sometimes good can be inexpensive. One of our budget stretching meals
    when we were first married until both girls left home was tuna and
    noodles. A can each of tuna fish & cream of mushroom soup, about half a
    bag of noodles, a cup or so of frozen peas (optional, but I usually put
    them in) and a few bread crumbs for the top made a filling meal. I used
    whole wheat noodles and if I were to do it now, I'd probably make my own mushroom white sauce (about as inexpensive as the soup) instead of using
    the soup.


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Monday, September 02, 2019 01:22:00

    Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus <=-

    It seems that the rotisserie chickens we get from BJs are all white
    meat, except for a little bit of the drumstick meat.

    Yeah, young battery birds have very light, delicate tasting meat
    while older, free ranging ones have darker more flavourful meat and
    bush chickens (partridges) are even darker fleshed and stronger
    tasting.

    Another chicken-like bird, the wild quail found in Ontario are
    called Bobwhite and they range all the way down to the Caribbean and
    Central America.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Costa Rican Quail Drumsticks in Escabeche
    Categories: Quail, Pickles, Latin amer
    Yield: 4 Servings

    24 Quail drumsticks
    2 lg Onions sliced in rings
    1 c Olive oil
    4 Bay leaves
    1/2 c Pitted
    Olives
    1/2 c Capers
    1/2 c Balsamic vinegar
    1/2 c Water
    Salt and Pepper

    Fry the drumsticks in 1/2 a cup of oil until golden brown. Remove
    from stove and peel the skins off. Put the drums in Pyrex dish
    with a cover. Cover the drumsticks with the onion rings, the bay
    leaves, olives and capers. Mix in a cup the rest of the oil, the
    vinegar and the the water. Pour over the chicken drumsticks. Put
    in the oven covered for 1/2 an hour. It may be served hot or cold
    as starter or a main dish. It is best when served cold after being
    for several hours in the refrigerator.

    From: Recetas Tipicas

    MMMMM

    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Tuesday, September 03, 2019 14:08:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus on 08-31-19 02:10 <=-

    As neither Richard or I is much of a fan of the white meat chicken, I
    rarely would buy a whole chicken anyway, but he's ok with getting the
    occasional rotisserie chicken... :)

    It seems that the rotisserie chickens we get from BJs are all white
    meat, except for a little bit of the drumstick meat.

    In that case, I'd just as soon pay the $4.99 at Wegmans for the 2 lb
    bird, since the thighs and the drumsticks are good dark meat... and the
    wing portions come close... ;) Still has more breast meat than dark
    meat, though... Fortunately, it isn't too awfully dry, so it can be
    used in other things later... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Nancy Backus on Thursday, September 05, 2019 00:41:00
    On 09-03-19 14:08, Nancy Backus <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Chicken <=-

    It seems that the rotisserie chickens we get from BJs are all white
    meat, except for a little bit of the drumstick meat.

    In that case, I'd just as soon pay the $4.99 at Wegmans for the 2 lb
    bird, since the thighs and the drumsticks are good dark meat... and
    the wing portions come close... ;) Still has more breast meat than
    dark meat, though... Fortunately, it isn't too awfully dry, so it can
    be used in other things later... :)

    That sounds like an awfully scrawny chicken:-}} The BJs chicken run
    about 3 1/2 pounds, also $4.99. That is probably twice the meat, given
    that the bones are about the same in each. BUT, to each his/her own.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Devonshire Sandwiches
    Categories: Main dish, Sandwich, Chicken, Sthrn/livng
    Yield: 6 sandwiches

    18 sl Bacon
    1/2 c Flour, all-purpose
    2 c Milk
    1/2 lb Cheese, Cheddar; shredded
    1 ts Mustard, dry
    6 sl Bread
    12 sl Chicken breast; thin slices
    1/4 c Cheese, Parmesan; grated

    Cook bacon; drain, reserving 1/4 cup drippings. Combine flour and
    reserved drippings over low heat, blending unitl smooth. Gradually
    add milk; cook until smooth and thickened, stirring constantly. Add
    Cheddar cheese and dry mustard, stirring until cheese melts.

    Place 3 slices bacon on each slice of bread, and top with 2 slices of
    chicken. Place in a 13x9x2" baking pan; cover with cheese sauce, and
    sprinkle with Parmesan cheese. Bake at 350 degrees for 10 minutes or
    until bubbly.

    SOURCE: Southern Living Magazine, October 1977.
    Typos by Nancy Coleman.

    MMMMM


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Tuesday, September 10, 2019 11:50:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus on 09-05-19 00:41 <=-

    Replying from the Pond, morning of 10 Sept...

    It seems that the rotisserie chickens we get from BJs are all white
    meat, except for a little bit of the drumstick meat.
    In that case, I'd just as soon pay the $4.99 at Wegmans for the 2 lb
    bird, since the thighs and the drumsticks are good dark meat... and
    the wing portions come close... ;) Still has more breast meat than
    dark meat, though... Fortunately, it isn't too awfully dry, so it can
    be used in other things later... :)
    That sounds like an awfully scrawny chicken:-}} The BJs chicken run
    about 3 1/2 pounds, also $4.99. That is probably twice the meat,
    given that the bones are about the same in each. BUT, to each his/her own.

    My point being that if all the gain is in the amount of the white meat,
    it's no bargain for me.... and if there is actually MORE dark meat
    overall in the apparently scrawny bird versus the other, I'm getting a
    better bargain in the long run, at least for our tastes... :)

    ttyl neb

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