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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Friday, December 14, 2018 10:09:30
    there is anything meaningful to lose.
    And at this point, does it matter much in the greater scheme of
    things?
    Nothing matters in the greater scheme of things
    except (if one believes anything at all) mercy
    towards one's fellows.
    Probably more matters than we care to think about, or discuss in an echo
    like this.

    I'll sign off by noting that depending on the
    perspective you take, everything matters - or
    nothing does, those being about the same thing.

    In my wanderings I've met people who have
    figured out how to indulge their urges via
    becoming an escort or guide or travel agent.
    If you're determined enough to want to do it, there's usually a way to

    Assuming the knowhow and persistence that are
    necessary - many don't.

    accomplish it. For us, it was a dead end job that didn't pay enough to decently live on. Government help (food stamps) turned the corner--Steve
    had to take a day off of work, no pay, to certify that our finances
    hadn't changed in 6 months. After that meeting, he saw a recruiting poster/started talking with the Army recruiter.............and we began
    the process that allowed us to travel.

    Worked out well.

    Or work for the airlines. Funny thing about
    my military friends is that a lot of them
    don't want ever to go anyplace again. You
    of course are different.
    Depends on the person/the job they had in the military and other

    Yes. Well. As an example the tail gunner guy I
    knew wanted never to get on any kind of flying
    contraption ever again.

    factors. To some, it's a temporary "this will only be for a few years
    and on to better things" job. Others, it's a career--go in as a Private
    and come out as a Sergeant Major. For us, it was a chance to break out
    of a path that had little to no chance for change and move into what
    turned out to be a life changing career. Gave us the chance to travel
    and try all kinds of new to us foods too. (G)

    Yes, your fondness for Korean foods
    especially is well noted.

    At my gig I ran into this girl I'd gone touring
    with thirty years ago, and all we did was talk
    about our aches and pains (she's a decade and
    half younger than me and went into the traveling
    musician stuff right after graduating from
    conservatory). Though she's as lovely as ever,
    with that unlined face that comes of lack of
    care and guilt, apparently age is catching up
    in invisible ways.
    Life has a way of doing that. (G)

    Sometimes it's heart-wrenching.

    Showing up at short notice, though, would
    be a suboptimal experience for everyone.
    We also have to figure out what cities/towns/villages the family
    came > from, if there's any family over there yet, etc.
    All the more reason for starting early on the
    research. Maybe Nancy can help you out with the
    genealogical resources that would be helpful.
    Steve has done some research but there are area best left undisturbed
    for a few more years.

    I'd have had problems with the hike after I did in the knee
    but > ML> could > have done the mule ride. Never had the chance to
    try it tho. > ML> Have you read what Swisher said about taking
    a mule ride? Doesn't seem to be anything to
    be undertaken voluntarily.
    Read some about it; doubt we'd ever do it.
    I get saddle sore just thinking about it.
    Especially since there's probably few chances to get off and walk for a
    bit. (G)

    Few = none, I'm presuming, and even if there
    were, I doubt the mules would cotton to such a
    change in their routine.

    For in-person gifts of course I do either Rocas
    or Sweet Sloops, having had connections with both
    Sounds good; IIRC, you brought some of the latter to HI.

    Yeah, a source of local civic pride almost
    enough to cancel the witch trials that took
    place in the same town.

    And carrot tops taste like parsley anyway, only
    bitter and unpleasant.
    Not a workable sub, IMO.

    I fugered not as well. But the guy's schtick
    is not wasting resources. To me it would
    make more sense to stick the carrot tops in
    the ground and grow new carrots; and if
    they were rattier than that, dump them in
    the stockpot, where their bitterness would
    be counteracted or diluted by something
    else, such as onions.

    Screen adaptations, even when I could look at TV
    and the movies, drove me up the wall, because the
    pictures in my head from the reading were always so
    superior to what the directors cound come up with.
    The differences, especially if you were well familiar with the book,
    are sometimes too glaring. Sometimes your mind has one picture and the
    movie makes it totally different from what you expect. For better or not
    is a matter of opinion. Also, seeing something in person--this past June

    I'm not a movie aficionado, as you know, but I
    can't recall encountering a movie adaptation
    that does justice to a text.

    we drove thru Montanna, Wyoming and South Dakota on our way home. Having
    read "Dances With Wolves", seen the movie and read any number of other
    books about the area ("Centennial" by Michener, for one), I still
    didn't get a feel for the vastness of the northern plains until we went
    thru them.

    For me, it's generally the opposite. When I
    actually got to see the Grand Canyon and the
    Himalayas, they were indeed grand enough but
    less so than my childhood dreams that drew
    from the books and equally importantly the
    National Geographic photos, which were framed
    so as to produce the greatest possible effect.

    Keto pudding
    3 Tb erythritol
    I'd use stevia instead of erythritol.

    The disadvantage of sugar alcohol is its
    laxativeness, but things made with it do
    taste sweet to me, whereas that's not true
    of stevia.

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    yield: 1 batch

    2 ts salt
    2 ts basil
    2 ts oregano
    1/2 ts thyme
    2 ts garlic powder
    1 ts dill
    1 ts marjoram
    1 ts cornstarch
    1 ts black pepper
    1 ts parsley flakes
    1 ts rosemary
    1/2 ts ground cinnamon
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Friday, December 14, 2018 21:24:17
    Hi Michael,

    there is anything meaningful to lose.
    And at this point, does it matter much in the greater scheme
    of > ML> things?
    Nothing matters in the greater scheme of things
    except (if one believes anything at all) mercy
    towards one's fellows.
    Probably more matters than we care to think about, or discuss in an
    echo > like this.

    I'll sign off by noting that depending on the
    perspective you take, everything matters - or
    nothing does, those being about the same thing.

    Subject closed.

    In my wanderings I've met people who have
    figured out how to indulge their urges via
    becoming an escort or guide or travel agent.
    If you're determined enough to want to do it, there's usually a way
    to

    Assuming the knowhow and persistence that are
    necessary - many don't.

    Some things do take persistence to be done well but the doing well is
    reward for persistence. A slap dash job does not mean that the knowledge
    is absent but rather, that the individual just doesn't care enough to do
    it well.


    accomplish it. For us, it was a dead end job that didn't pay enough
    to > decently live on. Government help (food stamps) turned the corner--Steve > had to take a day off of work, no pay, to certify that
    our finances
    hadn't changed in 6 months. After that meeting, he saw a recruiting poster/started talking with the Army recruiter.............and we
    began > the process that allowed us to travel.

    Worked out well.

    Quite so, never would have gotten to see/do as much as we have.
    Originally he was going to do only 4 years but the lure of 3 years
    (turned into almost 6) in Germany was hard to turn down.

    Or work for the airlines. Funny thing about
    my military friends is that a lot of them
    don't want ever to go anyplace again. You
    of course are different.
    Depends on the person/the job they had in the military and other

    Yes. Well. As an example the tail gunner guy I
    knew wanted never to get on any kind of flying
    contraption ever again.

    Tail gunner is not an easy job. Never done it but read about it enough
    to know I'd never want to do it.


    factors. To some, it's a temporary "this will only be for a few
    years > and on to better things" job. Others, it's a career--go in as
    a Private > and come out as a Sergeant Major. For us, it was a chance
    to break out > of a path that had little to no chance for change and
    move into what
    turned out to be a life changing career. Gave us the chance to
    travel > and try all kinds of new to us foods too. (G)

    Yes, your fondness for Korean foods
    especially is well noted.

    And German, Mexican, Hawaiian, .................... We'd tried some of
    it before but living in various parts of the world let me try cooking
    with local ingredients. Hard to find some of them in other locations but
    we've managed to. If not, the internet now makes it easier. (G)

    At my gig I ran into this girl I'd gone touring
    with thirty years ago, and all we did was talk
    about our aches and pains (she's a decade and
    half younger than me and went into the traveling
    musician stuff right after graduating from
    conservatory). Though she's as lovely as ever,
    with that unlined face that comes of lack of
    care and guilt, apparently age is catching up
    in invisible ways.
    Life has a way of doing that. (G)

    Sometimes it's heart-wrenching.

    Quite so, but nothing can be done to stop the process.

    Showing up at short notice, though, would
    be a suboptimal experience for everyone.
    We also have to figure out what cities/towns/villages the
    family > ML> came > from, if there's any family over there yet, etc.
    All the more reason for starting early on the
    research. Maybe Nancy can help you out with the
    genealogical resources that would be helpful.
    Steve has done some research but there are area best left
    undisturbed > for a few more years.

    a mule ride? Doesn't seem to be anything to
    be undertaken voluntarily.
    Read some about it; doubt we'd ever do it.
    I get saddle sore just thinking about it.
    Especially since there's probably few chances to get off and walk
    for a > bit. (G)

    Few = none, I'm presuming, and even if there
    were, I doubt the mules would cotton to such a
    change in their routine.

    Most likely not, and the trails aren't that wide so walking beside the
    mule is impossible at points. Don't know if it would be better to walk
    ahead or behind the animal. (G)

    For in-person gifts of course I do either Rocas
    or Sweet Sloops, having had connections with both
    Sounds good; IIRC, you brought some of the latter to HI.

    Yeah, a source of local civic pride almost
    enough to cancel the witch trials that took
    place in the same town.

    That are, to this day, well remembered.


    And carrot tops taste like parsley anyway, only
    bitter and unpleasant.
    Not a workable sub, IMO.

    I fugered not as well. But the guy's schtick
    is not wasting resources. To me it would
    make more sense to stick the carrot tops in
    the ground and grow new carrots; and if
    they were rattier than that, dump them in
    the stockpot, where their bitterness would
    be counteracted or diluted by something
    else, such as onions.

    Sounds like a good idea to me. (G)

    The differences, especially if you were well familiar with the book,
    are sometimes too glaring. Sometimes your mind has one picture and
    the > movie makes it totally different from what you expect. For
    better or not > is a matter of opinion. Also, seeing something in person--this past June

    I'm not a movie aficionado, as you know, but I
    can't recall encountering a movie adaptation
    that does justice to a text.

    A lot of the movies we've seen have no book to them--easy to enjoy that
    way. (G)

    we drove thru Montanna, Wyoming and South Dakota on our way home.
    Having > read "Dances With Wolves", seen the movie and read any number
    of other > books about the area ("Centennial" by Michener, for one), I still
    didn't get a feel for the vastness of the northern plains until we
    went > thru them.

    For me, it's generally the opposite. When I
    actually got to see the Grand Canyon and the
    Himalayas, they were indeed grand enough but
    less so than my childhood dreams that drew
    from the books and equally importantly the
    National Geographic photos, which were framed
    so as to produce the greatest possible effect.


    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... Books are better than TV; they exercise your imagination.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Friday, December 14, 2018 21:40:02
    Hi Michael,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    I was somewhat disappointed in Old Faithful. The pictures I'd seen of it
    when I was a kid, it looked more impressive. But, to a small child, it
    does look large; that perspective does change as one grows. The small
    amount of time we spent at Mount Rushmore we did get somewhat of an idea
    of the massiveness of the heads, would need more time and a closer up
    look to really get the "wow!" factor. Next trip!


    Keto pudding
    3 Tb erythritol
    I'd use stevia instead of erythritol.

    The disadvantage of sugar alcohol is its
    laxativeness, but things made with it do
    taste sweet to me, whereas that's not true
    of stevia.

    I'd use maybe a pinch of sugar to counter the bitterness of all stevia.
    (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


    ... 90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at.

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