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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Thursday, December 13, 2018 08:44:58
    Sorry, meant to say cans, not paper. I'm not firing on all cylinders
    One of those things that happens to all of
    Thanks to rest, antibiotics, cough stuff, lots of liquids, etc I'm
    getting back to a semblence of normal.

    Normal, what's that? If I could become normal
    from that regimen, I might try it.

    us. Cans of course are the time-honored way,
    and we've all seen cupboards lined with rows
    and rows of canned goods, enough to subsist
    on for a year. It may be sensible, though a
    year is a lot.
    My parents stored a lot of both home canned and commercial canned goods
    in the cellar. Until their last few years, they put up enough food each
    year to feed the family--but we were all gone--so they had a lot to
    carry over each year. Don't know what my brother did with it when he
    moved into the house; had he been smart, most all of it was probably
    thrown out for safety's sake.

    Canned stuff lasts longer than people give
    it credit for, just so the container seams
    weren't soldered with something weird. But
    remember those old PSAs that said stuff like
    Beware the bulging or dented can!

    right now. We've not had many dealings with mice, thankfully, over
    the > years and places we've lived, so I'm just going on thoughts, not
    experience.
    Mice are crafty. You almost expect to find
    little gimp lanyards in their nests.
    Possibly so. We only had trouble with mice in HI. Our neighbors let
    their grass grow too long and when they packed out, the mice got into
    the quad-plex thru open doors. A few well placed traps took care of
    them, fast.

    Lucky the Hawaiian mice were so innocent.

    Bear would probably toss the whole package
    down the gullet in one go.
    Quite possibly so.
    But bears don't have to be and are not
    known for being patient.
    No, and you don't expect them to be so in their own environment.

    Everywhere is their own environment. Where does a
    bear sleep? Anywhere he darn well wants to.

    Close enough. I'm not sure that the ruler
    of the underworld would have been the
    expected answer, or were people better up
    on classical mythology then?
    IIRC, Mom said she was in first grade; not many first graders would be
    up on classical mythology.

    So was the dog the expected answer?

    Except for the organisation United Negro College Fund. But yes, in
    the > last 50 or so years, that term has been very much oblitereated from the > American vocabulary.
    The rule appears to be if you are one you
    can call yourself one, otherwise, no, you
    use a more polite term.
    And doubly watch what you say when you're south of the Mason-Dixon line.

    Race talk is always risky, and down south I'm not
    even going to think about touching any such topic.

    The drones/worker bees are too busy doing their own thing to be too concerned with the correct terminology.
    That may have something to do with it, but
    drones generally aren't given much of a voice
    to begin with.
    No, they are kept busy honey making and not concerned with what's going
    on around them.

    One wonders if that's ever an enviable state.

    Yes, but it would be interesting to see if the meat is offered in
    other > flavorings. I might, for instance, want an Italian flavored
    meat pouch, > to use instead of southwestern.
    If the company expands and goes beyond its current
    niche market, maybe it'll happen.
    I'll have to check their web site and see what they offer.

    I'd not bother.

    Other cheeses (and other things altogether) have
    more flavor and better flavor profiles. Myself, I
    have a certain horror of the stuff, though ricotta
    or even farmer cheese don't evoke that disgust.
    A bad childhood experience?

    As far as I can tell, all experiences with cottage
    cheese are bad ones. Perhaps it was an early
    suspicion of things swimming in lactose-ridden
    whey. Which of course would have been prescient.

    The age-old dilemma - do you keep the good
    stuff or sell it. Successful enterprises do
    the latter.
    Yes, especially if they know there's money to be made off of what some consider waste by products.

    slice it, drege it in a seasoned flour (spicy) and fry it--good
    stuff.
    I fried some to go with skordalia at one
    of Burt's gatherings, but skordalia makes
    pretty much anything edible.
    That may have been the Fly Fest which we missed--still in Hi at that
    point.

    Might have been. I don't tend to keep track
    of what I made when.

    Cookie's Chili Powder
    I'd probably mix up a smaller amount to try, then do a larger
    quantity.
    My only question would be the basil: I'd
    sub thyme for most or all of that.
    Use Mexican oregano, cut the salt a bit also.

    I'd definitely not cut the salt. Mexican
    oregano, maybe, but seldom have I seen it -
    I've always substituted marjoram perhaps
    mixed with regular oregano.

    SICILIAN-STYLE LAMB CHOPS
    That looks good, but we don't have any lamb in the freezer right now.

    Agnello al forno con patate
    categories: main, Italian, Pugliese, holiday, Easter
    servings: 4

    1 kg lamb, chunked 2"
    800 g potatoes
    salt and pepper
    parsley
    5 oz white wine (sub diluted vinegar)
    EVOO as needed
    rosemary sprigs, opt
    2 cloves garlic
    1 bay leaf
    1 clove garlic, minced
    more oregano
    more chopped parsley
    grated Rodez cheese, opt

    Baked lamb with potatoes

    Rinse meat and pat dry with paper towels.

    Marinate meat for 2 hr in wine, olive oil,
    and herbs and seasonings.

    Rinse and peel potatoes. Cut into wedges
    and cover in cold water. Drain and pat dry.

    Oven at 365F/180C.

    Drain the lamb and add to a large baking
    dish with the potatoes. Drizzle with olive
    oil and strew a bit of parsley and oregano
    and a clove of minced garlic over. Season.
    Cover and bake for 30 min. Remove the lid
    and sprinkle some grated cheese on the
    meat as desired and continue cooking another
    15 to 20 min until everything is nicely
    browned.

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  • From Bill Swisher@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Thursday, December 13, 2018 15:10:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Ruth Haffly <=-

    I'd definitely not cut the salt. Mexican
    oregano, maybe, but seldom have I seen it -

    Really? I'm pretty sure thats all I have, since I buy the little bagglets from
    Food City/Red Apple when I need a refill.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Thursday, December 13, 2018 16:30:11
    Hi Michael,

    Sorry, meant to say cans, not paper. I'm not firing on all
    cylinders > ML> One of those things that happens to all of
    Thanks to rest, antibiotics, cough stuff, lots of liquids, etc I'm getting back to a semblence of normal.

    Normal, what's that? If I could become normal
    from that regimen, I might try it.

    Actually, normal is a setting on the washer or dryer. What appears to be
    so on the surface around here is an incredibly good fool the eye act.
    (G)

    us. Cans of course are the time-honored way,
    and we've all seen cupboards lined with rows
    and rows of canned goods, enough to subsist
    on for a year. It may be sensible, though a
    year is a lot.
    My parents stored a lot of both home canned and commercial canned
    goods > in the cellar. Until their last few years, they put up enough
    food each > year to feed the family--but we were all gone--so they had
    a lot to
    carry over each year. Don't know what my brother did with it when he moved into the house; had he been smart, most all of it was probably thrown out for safety's sake.

    Canned stuff lasts longer than people give
    it credit for, just so the container seams
    weren't soldered with something weird. But
    remember those old PSAs that said stuff like
    Beware the bulging or dented can!

    Some of these cans had rust on them. Home canned stuff that had been
    kept beyond a reasonable time frame had a coating of lint from a poorly
    vented dryer near the shelving unit where cans were stored. The last few
    years Steve and I often bought fresh veggies at the grocery store and
    cooked them, not trusting the quality of what we found at the house.

    Mice are crafty. You almost expect to find
    little gimp lanyards in their nests.
    Possibly so. We only had trouble with mice in HI. Our neighbors let their grass grow too long and when they packed out, the mice got
    into > the quad-plex thru open doors. A few well placed traps took
    care of
    them, fast.

    Lucky the Hawaiian mice were so innocent.

    Seems so; we had them one day and in less than a week, they were gone.
    Either found a trap or found their way outside and avoided the trap.

    But bears don't have to be and are not
    known for being patient.
    No, and you don't expect them to be so in their own environment.

    Everywhere is their own environment. Where does a
    bear sleep? Anywhere he darn well wants to.

    Except I've never seen one sleep near a busy road, school, housing area,
    etc.

    Close enough. I'm not sure that the ruler
    of the underworld would have been the
    expected answer, or were people better up
    on classical mythology then?
    IIRC, Mom said she was in first grade; not many first graders would
    be > up on classical mythology.

    So was the dog the expected answer?

    No, the expected answer would have been "the newest planet".

    Except for the organisation United Negro College Fund. But
    yes, in > ML> the > last 50 or so years, that term has been very much oblitereated > ML> from the > American vocabulary.
    The rule appears to be if you are one you
    can call yourself one, otherwise, no, you
    use a more polite term.
    And doubly watch what you say when you're south of the Mason-Dixon
    line.

    Race talk is always risky, and down south I'm not
    even going to think about touching any such topic.

    Not a topic of discussion in most of our circles.


    The drones/worker bees are too busy doing their own thing to
    be too > ML> > concerned with the correct terminology.
    That may have something to do with it, but
    drones generally aren't given much of a voice
    to begin with.
    No, they are kept busy honey making and not concerned with what's
    going > on around them.

    One wonders if that's ever an enviable state.

    Might, in some circumstances.

    Yes, but it would be interesting to see if the meat is
    offered in > ML> other > flavorings. I might, for instance, want an Italian flavored > ML> meat pouch, > to use instead of southwestern.
    If the company expands and goes beyond its current
    niche market, maybe it'll happen.
    I'll have to check their web site and see what they offer.

    I'd not bother.

    Curiosity, as much as anything else.

    Other cheeses (and other things altogether) have
    more flavor and better flavor profiles. Myself, I
    have a certain horror of the stuff, though ricotta
    or even farmer cheese don't evoke that disgust.
    A bad childhood experience?

    As far as I can tell, all experiences with cottage
    cheese are bad ones. Perhaps it was an early
    suspicion of things swimming in lactose-ridden
    whey. Which of course would have been prescient.

    The lactose intolerance does throw a different light on the matter.

    The age-old dilemma - do you keep the good
    stuff or sell it. Successful enterprises do
    the latter.
    Yes, especially if they know there's money to be made off of what
    some > consider waste by products.

    slice it, drege it in a seasoned flour (spicy) and fry
    it--good > ML> stuff.
    I fried some to go with skordalia at one
    of Burt's gatherings, but skordalia makes
    pretty much anything edible.
    That may have been the Fly Fest which we missed--still in Hi at that point.

    Might have been. I don't tend to keep track
    of what I made when.

    Have you ever not made it to a picnic?

    Cookie's Chili Powder
    I'd probably mix up a smaller amount to try, then do a larger
    quantity.
    My only question would be the basil: I'd
    sub thyme for most or all of that.
    Use Mexican oregano, cut the salt a bit also.

    I'd definitely not cut the salt. Mexican
    oregano, maybe, but seldom have I seen it -
    I've always substituted marjoram perhaps
    mixed with regular oregano.

    Depends on the availability of the Mexican oregano--I can get it any
    time I visit our daughters. (G)

    SICILIAN-STYLE LAMB CHOPS
    That looks good, but we don't have any lamb in the freezer right
    now.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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