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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Wednesday, December 12, 2018 14:37:40
    I chuckle sourly at those who toss scraps and
    dripping and then pay lots of money for schmaltz
    and lard and chicken cracklings (there are all
    these trendy restaurants selling fried chicken
    skin to yuppies who pay lots of dough for boneless
    skinless at Whole Foods).
    Yup, there certainly is something wrong with that picture... :) I've
    noticed Wegmans have little high-priced jars of lard, pork fat, etc...
    in the cooking oils section.... ;)

    [insert obligatory pitch for home ec
    classes here]

    Didn't even wrap it and toss in the freezer for a later visit...?
    Doesn't like leftovers means doesn't like
    leftovers, and it appears to be hereditary.
    Her sons are likewise....?

    Naturally. It almost goes without saying.

    A couple days later I'd have killed for those
    turkey oysters I'd left behind.
    Sigh. ;) And, I know, you couldn't bring them with...
    What I should have done was overeaten.
    Probably.... :) At least then they'd not been wasted... ;)

    It saddens me. I left my accompanist's
    yesterday - she'd made a half recipe of that
    Al Sims' chili, i.e., half a huge kettleful,
    and I had to admonish her to at least freeze
    the leftovers for my next appearance - otherwise
    they would have been wasted ... one could have
    of course made a quarter or a sixth recipe, but
    that doesn't happen.

    Was she not hungry, or was it that unappetizing...?
    Um ... there's not a thing on that menu that
    a paleo or keto person may eat.
    Oh, right.... I keep not remembering which things are off which diets...
    With a few nieces/nephews etc on the keto diet, right, that one doesn't
    allow carbs.... which would cut out most of the above... And the paleo
    diet is meat and only certain starches/veggies....? That one does
    confuse me regularly... :) Wasn't Link a somewhat vegetarian? or am I getting her mixed up with someone else...?

    You remembered correctly. She got fat on semi-vegetarian
    ... managing her weight nicely on keto/paleo.

    Tonight I'm making chicken parm with chicken-skin
    cracklings, maybe with bacon on the side. I may
    make rice or something for the starch hounds, though.
    That's just a bit meat heavy, but sounds pretty good... ;)
    But it fits the diet. Which recent researches indicate
    is better for many people than the nutritionist-flogged
    balanced diet.
    It's getting so I don't really pay a lot of attention to any of them,
    with the standards fluctuating so widely... I'll eat what I want, pretty much, with some regard to common sense and what I know seems to work for me... ;)

    Remember that scene in Sleeper, where
    Woody Allen wakes up after centuries to
    find that everything that we had been
    warned against were later proven to be
    good for you, and vice versa?

    I'm usually using a flat pan, not an actual broiling pan... but I can see where that could be... :)
    Flat pans should have at least a lip.
    It does.... :)
    And, if you cook properly fatty stuff, a pretty
    high one at that.
    Have been lately doing meats in the frypan rather than the oven... But

    For two it makes sense, especially
    given you like rare meat.

    in the oven, likely in a Corning pan... For stuff not likely to exude
    much juice or fat, the pizza pan with a layer of foil... :) Actually,
    that one has enough of a lip that I'll broil Wegmans specialty burgers
    on it... :)

    Where's the fun in cooking something
    not likely to exude juice and fat?

    I chuckled, too, but only inwardly.
    Probably wise... ;)
    The temptation was considerable.
    Indeed. :)
    Sometimes it hurts, this biting your
    tongue business.
    I know. I refer to it as "hamburger tongue", especially in cases where biting one's tongue is pretty much constant.... ;)

    Not a pretty image. How often do you hang
    out in such circles? Besides here, I mean.

    ... Murphy's Law explains things better than conspiracy theories.
    But conspiracy theories are much better at
    explaining things that didn't happen.
    Maybe.

    BUTTER-------------------------------
    1/2 Lemon (juice only) 4 tb Reduced lobster
    stock * 1 Green-black lobster brain OR 6 oz Butter
    *Note: Lobster stock should be made from shells and heads, then
    heavily reduced to make 3-4 tablespoons.
    This is how the butter ingredients translated.... I'm guessing from the following directions that the OR is the reduced lobster stock to be used instead of the goo from the lobster head...?

    That started out as a fairly standard
    shape recipe. Are you telling me that
    Doc's adds or perhaps subtracts hard
    returns to/from online-subnitted
    messages?

    Warm the lemon juice in a small basin over a saucepan of simmering water. Beat in the nuggets of cold butter, adding more as each one melts. Do this gently - it can split if you overheat it (revive it
    with a quick splash of cold water). When you have an unctuous
    smooth sauce like thin cream, sieve and whisk in the green goo from
    the head of the lobster - which immediately turns the butter a
    wonderful orange-pink.
    M's note, whispered: it really isn't the brain.
    Not sure what would turn people off more, calling it the brain, or
    calling it green goo... ;)

    It's not the brain, it's a digestive organ.

    ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.01

    Title: Lobster, Normandy Style (Homard a la Normande)
    Categories: Fish/sea, French
    Yield: 4 servings

    4 Fresh lobsters, live 12 c Calvados
    1/2 c Sweet butter 3 c Heavy cream
    Salt 3 tb All purpose flour
    Freshly ground white pepper 1/2 Lemon, juice of
    1/2 c Finely chopped shallots or 1 ds Cayenne pepper
    -scallions 2 tb Finely chopped fresh parsley

    Servings: 4

    Split the lobsters lengthwise with a big knife and break the shells off
    the
    claws with a hammer or a cleaver. Pour the liquid and the tomalley (the
    liver) into a small bowl. Discard the stomach (the small sac which is
    behind the eyes).

    Melt half the butter in a large, heavy saucepan. When the butter turns
    the
    color of a hazelnut, add the lobsters and sprinkle with salt and pepper.
    Cook over high heat for eight to 10 minutes, turning lobsters often. They
    should turn evenly red all over. Remove the lobsters from the saucepan.
    Arrange in a large roasting pan and place in a preheated 250-F oven to
    keep
    them warm and to finish cooking.

    Add the shallots to the saucepan and sizzle exactly 1 minute without
    burning. Add the Calvados, ignite, and when the flame dies out, add the
    cream. Work together the remaining butter and the flour. When the sauce
    starts boiling, add the flour mixture (beurre manie), bit by bit,
    whipping
    vigorously into the sauce with a wire whisk until smooth. Bring slowly to
    a
    boil. Then mix in the tomalley and lemon juice. Taste for seasoning and
    add
    salt and cayenne pepper, if necessary. You may cook a bit longer to
    reduce
    the sauce if you like it thicker. Stir in the parsley. Pour the sauce
    over
    the lobsters and serve piping hot.

    A rice pilaf is usually served with this dish, and we would recommend a
    chilled white Traminer wine or a bottle of old cider.

    Source: Mom's old magazine clippings- 1940's to 1970's House Beautiful,
    September 1970

    From Sallie Austin

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Saturday, December 15, 2018 22:34:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 12-12-18 13:37 <=-

    I chuckle sourly at those who toss scraps and
    dripping and then pay lots of money for schmaltz
    and lard and chicken cracklings (there are all
    these trendy restaurants selling fried chicken
    skin to yuppies who pay lots of dough for boneless
    skinless at Whole Foods).
    Yup, there certainly is something wrong with that picture... :) I've noticed Wegmans have little high-priced jars of lard, pork fat, etc...
    in the cooking oils section.... ;)
    [insert obligatory pitch for home ec
    classes here]

    Something I never had... except as taught/modeled by my parents...

    Didn't even wrap it and toss in the freezer for a later visit...?
    Doesn't like leftovers means doesn't like
    leftovers, and it appears to be hereditary.
    Her sons are likewise....?
    Naturally. It almost goes without saying.

    Almost.

    A couple days later I'd have killed for those
    turkey oysters I'd left behind.
    Sigh. ;) And, I know, you couldn't bring them with...
    What I should have done was overeaten.
    Probably.... :) At least then they'd not been wasted... ;)
    It saddens me. I left my accompanist's
    yesterday - she'd made a half recipe of that
    Al Sims' chili, i.e., half a huge kettleful,
    and I had to admonish her to at least freeze
    the leftovers for my next appearance - otherwise
    they would have been wasted ... one could have
    of course made a quarter or a sixth recipe, but
    that doesn't happen.

    One should be thankful she made a half...? And did she dutifully freeze
    the leftovers for you...? :)

    Was she not hungry, or was it that unappetizing...?
    Um ... there's not a thing on that menu that
    a paleo or keto person may eat.
    Oh, right.... I keep not remembering which things are off which diets... With a few nieces/nephews etc on the keto diet, right, that one doesn't allow carbs.... which would cut out most of the above... And the paleo
    diet is meat and only certain starches/veggies....? That one does
    confuse me regularly... :) Wasn't Link a somewhat vegetarian? or am I getting her mixed up with someone else...?
    You remembered correctly. She got fat on semi-vegetarian
    ... managing her weight nicely on keto/paleo.

    I have relatives on the keto diet, a couple of friends supposedly on
    paleo....

    Tonight I'm making chicken parm with chicken-skin
    cracklings, maybe with bacon on the side. I may
    make rice or something for the starch hounds, though.
    That's just a bit meat heavy, but sounds pretty good... ;)
    But it fits the diet. Which recent researches indicate
    is better for many people than the nutritionist-flogged
    balanced diet.
    It's getting so I don't really pay a lot of attention to any of them,
    with the standards fluctuating so widely... I'll eat what I want, pretty much, with some regard to common sense and what I know seems to work for me... ;)
    Remember that scene in Sleeper, where
    Woody Allen wakes up after centuries to
    find that everything that we had been
    warned against were later proven to be
    good for you, and vice versa?

    Yup. Something I keep in mind... ;)

    I'm usually using a flat pan, not an actual broiling pan... but I
    can see where that could be... :)
    Flat pans should have at least a lip.
    It does.... :)
    And, if you cook properly fatty stuff, a pretty
    high one at that.
    Have been lately doing meats in the frypan rather than the oven...
    For two it makes sense, especially
    given you like rare meat.

    That's what I figured...

    But in the oven, likely in a Corning pan... For stuff not likely to exude much juice or fat, the pizza pan with a layer of foil... :) Actually,
    that one has enough of a lip that I'll broil Wegmans specialty burgers
    on it... :)
    Where's the fun in cooking something
    not likely to exude juice and fat?

    Well I was first thinking about something like pizza... (G) The burgers
    do exude some juice and fat, as did the Italian sausage patties I
    broiled in the oven earlier this week.... but not so much as to spill
    over the lip....

    I chuckled, too, but only inwardly.
    Probably wise... ;)
    The temptation was considerable.
    Indeed. :)
    Sometimes it hurts, this biting your
    tongue business.
    I know. I refer to it as "hamburger tongue", especially in cases where biting one's tongue is pretty much constant.... ;)
    Not a pretty image. How often do you hang
    out in such circles? Besides here, I mean.

    Often enough.... probably half my family (with a couple much more an
    issue than the rest)... certain church members.... At one point, also
    some of the aides etc for the people I was helping.... :)

    BUTTER-------------------------------
    1/2 Lemon (juice only) 4 tb Reduced lobster
    stock * 1 Green-black lobster brain OR 6 oz Butter
    *Note: Lobster stock should be made from shells and heads, then
    heavily reduced to make 3-4 tablespoons.
    This is how the butter ingredients translated.... I'm guessing from the following directions that the OR is the reduced lobster stock to be used instead of the goo from the lobster head...?
    That started out as a fairly standard
    shape recipe. Are you telling me that
    Doc's adds or perhaps subtracts hard
    returns to/from online-subnitted
    messages?

    Possibly the lines were too long, so got wrapped... and when quoted
    might have further been mangled....

    Warm the lemon juice in a small basin over a saucepan of simmering water. Beat in the nuggets of cold butter, adding more as each one melts. Do this gently - it can split if you overheat it (revive it with a quick splash of cold water). When you have an unctuous
    smooth sauce like thin cream, sieve and whisk in the green goo from
    the head of the lobster - which immediately turns the butter a wonderful orange-pink.
    M's note, whispered: it really isn't the brain.
    Not sure what would turn people off more, calling it the brain, or
    calling it green goo... ;)
    It's not the brain, it's a digestive organ.

    Well, that has a similar potential, doesn't it... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... ...And the celery stalked out of the kitchen.

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