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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Thursday, December 06, 2018 20:28:08
    Little things cost more by weight, and trendy
    little things are even more so.
    Quite so. I've seen, but not bought any, at the farmer's market.
    Farmers with tweezers, I can see it now.
    One lady odes use them--she will make a juice "shot" out of them. I've

    That's an aargh moment for sure. Not sure about
    juice shots.

    never tried it; I'd rather eat the veggies than drink the. BTW, we were

    For those who are selective about our veggies,
    juice shots may be the answer. If it were
    suddenly discovered that zucchini and yellow
    turnips had unique life-extending qualities,
    my choice would be between death or juice shots.

    at Publix yesterday, stopped at the Aprons (recipe demo) stand. The
    recipe of the week was pork tenderloin with a garlic-spinach sauce

    Sounds okay, though I'd substitute almost any
    other cut of pork for the tenderloin, which for
    me is the chicken breast of the pig.

    served over veggie spirals. I'd have cut the red pepper flakes a bit but

    Heh - I'd have increased the red pepper no
    doubt.

    otherwise pretty good. They were pushing the ingredients--we told the
    demo lady that we'd buy our own veggies and spiralise them, she
    understood.

    And if she didn't, she'd darned well better
    not show it.

    I don't think we're going to have that much more warm (or relatively warm) weather until spring. Today is to have a high of about 60 but
    go > back to the 40s for a spell tomorrow.
    Don't lose hope for a thaw.
    No, but colder weather is settling in for a few months. We're finally officially out of hurricane season tho.

    We had 55 the other day. Today, back into the
    normal 40s.

    I've gone from well above average to well below
    average in the last few days - one of the miracles
    of modern technology is that I can get chills and
    colds faster than ever before.
    Understandable; I'm fighting a cough, hoping it won't turn into
    bronchitis.

    Don't get it, please.

    What is worth? From the 10 minutes I allotted me
    for the task, the original referenced quote came
    from the intro to the Superman TV show, which
    debuted in 1952. To test the hypothesis that this
    was the first time the catchphrase appeared
    anywhere, that might take more digging. I'm
    comfortable with 1952, because that would jibe
    nicely with the first time I encountered the joke,
    approximately 1958.
    Sounds OK to me. I don't know when the first time I heard either the
    original phrase or the joke version was.

    Not difficult for me, because I remember a
    lot of useless junk from the early days of
    elementary school.

    The fact that it costs me 8 1/2c a day makes it
    less likely that the high-priced spread will get
    my business back even when it's certified safe.
    Sounds like a smart idea.
    There are downsides to the old cheap product -
    they're what drives demand for the high-priced
    spread - but to me they're less important than
    they used to be, and cost is more relevant.
    Cost can be a big factor in things--my parents used to go for the lowest price on anything, and then having to buy again when it wore out. Fine
    for growing kids shoes but false economy for washers, fridges, etc. Last
    I knew tho, the fridge they put into the cellar (I believe the one
    bought in the late 50s/early 60s) when they remodeled the kitchen in the
    late 70s was still running.

    Some choices that might have fallen into the
    false economy category didn't, and whether that
    was the dividends of smart buying or just plain
    dumb luck, hard to say sometimes.

    Well, as far as my wardrobe goes, I can wear
    just about any color ... but choose not to.
    Anyhow, the four seasons analogy is always
    going to be imperfect - perhaps if anyone
    cared they could hone things down and say
    "you're a September 4th or April 20th."
    It's not that specific but it does give you an idea of what colors will

    But perhaps it could be. Your phone could take
    a picture of you each morning and depending on
    how good your circulation was suggest which
    colors would go best. If you had a database of
    your clothes, it could even suggest what to wear.

    look best on you. I once bought Steve an orange shirt--he wore it once
    or twice but it didn't look good on him. OTOH, it looked very good on
    me, but a gray one wouldn't. It would look good on him tho. One time
    while we were visiting our older daughter, he wore a pink shirt--she commented on how good it looked on him. The same pink would not have
    looked good on me.

    And then there's the question of what means "good."
    As far as I'm concerned, orange shouldn't be an
    option for just about anything but oranges.

    And have few examples of either and don't
    generally care to use them. A cummerbund
    maybe, but that's just for special occasions.
    You probably don't have as many of those special occaisions now, do you?

    Five to ten a year, the obvious. Fancy dress
    occasions, maybe every second or third year,
    no more.

    Our social life, now that Steve has retired from the Army, has changed
    also; we don't have the formal dress occaisions any more.

    For the military, I'd imagine fancy dress was
    pretty dictated; for the spouses, perhaps not so
    much - but then that would be more opportunity
    for shopping, wouldn't it.

    Maybe next time we'll try it rare but Steve wanted it braised, like
    we > do the shanks.
    I don't think the Sicilians do rare lamb
    the way the French and perhaps northern
    Italians do.
    It's all a matter of taste. Steve's ancestry is from the Calabrian region--the toe of the boot. Have to see what the specialties are from
    there.

    Ah, I knew it was someplace in that neighborhood.

    It will, one day at a time.
    That was almost funny, given the original
    context.
    Thought you would enjoy it.

    Yes.

    Waterfall pork
    Let's leave the cilantro out of this and I'll consider it.
    The seasoning mix referenced below contains
    coriander powder but no cilantro.
    Easy waterfall pork
    1/2 Tb labb-namtok seasoning mix or tt
    ******************************
    ?????????

    Why all the ?s?

    It's a seasoning powder for use in larb (nam tok),
    a mixture of ground toasted sticky rice, hot
    pepper powder, garlic, coriander seed, onion,
    dehydrated citrus juice (substitute ascorbic or
    citric acid), and MSG. It is said to be common
    in Thai cookery, but recipes for it are
    impossible to find - apparently even in Thailand
    people buy it ready made. It might go well as a
    seasoning for

    Spit-roasted whole leg of lamb
    Category: grilled, main, Italy, Calabria, summer
    Servings: 8

    1 whole leg of lamb, 11 to 12 lb
    salt and freshly ground black pepper
    cayenne (opt)
    extra-virgin olive oil for brushing
    a brush made of fresh oregano and thyme sprigs

    Agnello allo spiedo

    Prepare a medium-low charcoal fire or preheat a gas
    grill for 15 min on medium-low. Add rosemary, thyme
    or other herb twigs (soaked first in water) to the
    charcoal fire or aromatic wood chip container of a
    gas grill. The lamb will spit-roast for 4 hr so you
    will want to replenish the fire periodically with
    more herbs or apple chips, hazelnut or almond shells
    or other woods. Set up the rotisserie attachment.

    Season the leg of lamb with salt and pepper and, if
    desired, cayenne, and brush with olive oil.

    Secure the lamb firmly to the spit, making sure the
    weight is evenly distributed so the spit rotates
    smoothly. Make sure the holding prongs on each end
    are tight and grip the lamb solidly. If necessary,
    tie the lamb to the spit with butcher's twine so it
    will not slide when the spit rotates. Spit-roast,
    basting with the herb brush dipped in olive oil
    every 20 min, until the meat feels tender enough
    to pull off the bone with your fingers, about 4 hr.
    Remove the lamb from the fire and spit and let it
    rest 20 min before carving.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Friday, December 07, 2018 14:20:16
    Hi Michael,

    Little things cost more by weight, and trendy
    little things are even more so.
    Quite so. I've seen, but not bought any, at the farmer's
    market. > ML> Farmers with tweezers, I can see it now.
    One lady odes use them--she will make a juice "shot" out of them.
    I've

    That's an aargh moment for sure. Not sure about
    juice shots.

    It's something that we've never spent the money on, just not tempted at
    all. (G)


    never tried it; I'd rather eat the veggies than drink the. BTW, we
    were

    For those who are selective about our veggies,
    juice shots may be the answer. If it were
    suddenly discovered that zucchini and yellow
    turnips had unique life-extending qualities,
    my choice would be between death or juice shots.

    At that point, I'd go with the shots, only if I couldn't have the
    veggies closer to their original form.


    at Publix yesterday, stopped at the Aprons (recipe demo) stand. The recipe of the week was pork tenderloin with a garlic-spinach sauce

    Sounds okay, though I'd substitute almost any
    other cut of pork for the tenderloin, which for
    me is the chicken breast of the pig.

    I like the chicken breast, if it's not dried out. My main complaint
    about pork loin is the cost; I'll usually spend less on chops.


    served over veggie spirals. I'd have cut the red pepper flakes a bit
    but

    Heh - I'd have increased the red pepper no
    doubt.

    Probably so, but to me, it was just a bit overpowering for the veggies.


    otherwise pretty good. They were pushing the ingredients--we told
    the > demo lady that we'd buy our own veggies and spiralise them, she
    understood.

    And if she didn't, she'd darned well better
    not show it.

    No, this lady knows that we know cooking. She's asked us to critique
    what's being demo'ed a few times, welcoming an honest opinion.

    high of about 60 but > ML> go > back to the 40s for a spell tomorrow.
    Don't lose hope for a thaw.
    No, but colder weather is settling in for a few months. We're
    finally > officially out of hurricane season tho.

    We had 55 the other day. Today, back into the
    normal 40s.

    We're in the 40s today but expecting a nasty storm to blow thru the area
    on Sunday--snow, ice, rain...........the whole 9 yards.

    I've gone from well above average to well below
    average in the last few days - one of the miracles
    of modern technology is that I can get chills and
    colds faster than ever before.
    Understandable; I'm fighting a cough, hoping it won't turn into bronchitis.

    Don't get it, please.

    Too late; I got it but am on day 6 of anitbiotics. Once the cough
    reaches a certain point, it usually goes into bronchitis, no matter what
    I do.

    was the first time the catchphrase appeared
    anywhere, that might take more digging. I'm
    comfortable with 1952, because that would jibe
    nicely with the first time I encountered the joke,
    approximately 1958.
    Sounds OK to me. I don't know when the first time I heard either the original phrase or the joke version was.

    Not difficult for me, because I remember a
    lot of useless junk from the early days of
    elementary school.

    Thankfully, I don't.

    they used to be, and cost is more relevant.
    Cost can be a big factor in things--my parents used to go for the
    lowest > price on anything, and then having to buy again when it wore
    out. Fine > for growing kids shoes but false economy for washers,
    fridges, etc. Last > I knew tho, the fridge they put into the cellar
    (I believe the one
    bought in the late 50s/early 60s) when they remodeled the kitchen in
    the > late 70s was still running.

    Some choices that might have fallen into the
    false economy category didn't, and whether that
    was the dividends of smart buying or just plain
    dumb luck, hard to say sometimes.

    Hard to say at this point, and not really that concerned. My brother
    owns the house now so the fridge is his to deal with.

    Well, as far as my wardrobe goes, I can wear
    just about any color ... but choose not to.
    Anyhow, the four seasons analogy is always
    going to be imperfect - perhaps if anyone
    cared they could hone things down and say
    "you're a September 4th or April 20th."
    It's not that specific but it does give you an idea of what colors
    will

    But perhaps it could be. Your phone could take
    a picture of you each morning and depending on
    how good your circulation was suggest which
    colors would go best. If you had a database of
    your clothes, it could even suggest what to wear.

    Possible, but I'd not get that obsessive.

    look best on you. I once bought Steve an orange shirt--he wore it
    once > or twice but it didn't look good on him. OTOH, it looked very
    good on > me, but a gray one wouldn't. It would look good on him tho.
    One time
    while we were visiting our older daughter, he wore a pink shirt--she commented on how good it looked on him. The same pink would not have looked good on me.

    And then there's the question of what means "good."

    Basically, complimenting your skin tone, eyes, hair color, etc as
    opposed to making you not look good. I don't wear black or true white as
    a general rule for that reason. I'll wear them if I have to (concert
    dress) but for formal occaisions, I'll usually pick a dark brown or blue
    and off white.

    As far as I'm concerned, orange shouldn't be an
    option for just about anything but oranges.

    It's not in your color family--but it is in mine.

    And have few examples of either and don't
    generally care to use them. A cummerbund
    maybe, but that's just for special occasions.
    You probably don't have as many of those special occaisions now, do
    you?

    Five to ten a year, the obvious. Fancy dress
    occasions, maybe every second or third year,
    no more.

    Special occaisions, a few but usually nothing super dressy there. Fancy
    dress, even less.

    changed > also; we don't have the formal dress occaisions any more.

    For the military, I'd imagine fancy dress was
    pretty dictated; for the spouses, perhaps not so
    much - but then that would be more opportunity
    for shopping, wouldn't it.

    Actually there were a number of times we had to go formal as well.
    Usually if the dress uniform was required for the service member, the
    spouse (or significant other) was to wear some form of formal dress
    also. Yes, it was a chance to go shopping, but there were also times I
    made my outfit.

    Maybe next time we'll try it rare but Steve wanted it
    braised, like > ML> we > do the shanks.
    I don't think the Sicilians do rare lamb
    the way the French and perhaps northern
    Italians do.
    It's all a matter of taste. Steve's ancestry is from the Calabrian


    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

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    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Friday, December 07, 2018 14:44:06
    Hi Michael,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    region--the toe of the boot. Have to see what the specialties are
    from > there.

    Ah, I knew it was someplace in that neighborhood.

    Toe of the boot--Calabria.

    Waterfall pork
    Let's leave the cilantro out of this and I'll consider it.
    The seasoning mix referenced below contains
    coriander powder but no cilantro.
    Easy waterfall pork
    1/2 Tb labb-namtok seasoning mix or tt
    ******************************
    ?????????

    Why all the ?s?

    Because I didn't know what the labb-namtok seasoning mix or tt
    is/was....

    It's a seasoning powder for use in larb (nam tok),
    a mixture of ground toasted sticky rice, hot
    pepper powder, garlic, coriander seed, onion,
    dehydrated citrus juice (substitute ascorbic or
    citric acid), and MSG. It is said to be common
    in Thai cookery, but recipes for it are
    impossible to find - apparently even in Thailand
    people buy it ready made. It might go well as a
    seasoning for

    ...............but now I do.

    Spit-roasted whole leg of lamb
    Category: grilled, main, Italy, Calabria, summer
    Servings: 8

    1 whole leg of lamb, 11 to 12 lb
    salt and freshly ground black pepper
    cayenne (opt)
    extra-virgin olive oil for brushing
    a brush made of fresh oregano and thyme sprigs

    Agnello allo spiedo

    Somewhat similar to the spiedies of the Binghamton, NY area. You made a
    version of them at the 2008 picnic in Windsor.

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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