• 636 career paths was overflow

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Thursday, December 06, 2018 20:27:22
    I've only met one who professed such a planned
    career trajectory, and it now appears she was
    lying in a megalomaniac way.
    I've run into quite a few that actually had taken that route,
    successfully, as well as those still in the process....

    It makes sense for those who haven't been
    on the fast socioeconomic educational track
    from their earlier days. And I think that a
    requirement to learn the practical skills
    would be a good thing, except that it would
    turn off those with that intellectual
    impatience that is prized these days.

    One issue is that nursing now attracts a different
    crowd of students from the olden days, as people are
    tumbling to the fact that it's a worthwhile Profession
    with a capital P, and not just a route to the MRS degree.
    Besides, there are now quite a few males becoming nurses... :)

    Actually, I would have been intrigued by nursing
    as a profession, because even forty years ago I
    felt that clinical physicians were turning away
    from actual health care by becoming too, well,
    clinical. It's peculiar how that term has evolved
    to mean pretty much the opposite of what it was
    meant to.

    Bachelors in Nursing as opposed to the Certificate course for the RN, it does tend to be more focused on the medical aspects.... One of my
    The school that I saw my friend Alissa graduate
    from offered the RN only combined with a
    bachelor's - probably to avoid the silliness
    that obtained at your school, whose BSW was as
    good as an MSW from anyplace else.
    Roberts Wesleyan offers the BSN, I think it is... Monroe Community, just
    the 2-yr Certificate that entitles one to test for the Registered part
    of it...

    Do people with the 2-year certification ever
    go on to a four-year program, and would there be
    an advantage in doing so?

    The NPs I knew from the infancy of that
    accreditation were people who likely should have
    been doctors but didn't have sufficient finances
    or maleness to get into med school.
    That was often the case back then... I know one NP that was at least the equal of just about any doctor, and in her position on a family medicine
    team that trained residents, she trained many a doctor to be a better
    one that he/she might otherwise have been... :) She has now retired,
    and that team does miss her, greatly... :)

    And now, to recognize that, more schools are
    offering various kinds of doctoral degrees in
    nursing (odd though that may sound). I'm all
    for the recognition but am not in favor of the
    mindset that makes people not take one seriously
    unless there's a doctor in front of the name.

    Is the crispiness a criterion? One can make
    unbreaded shrimp tails shatteringly crisp
    (that's the way I like them, too).
    Not sure... It might be.... sometime when you're here, we could test
    that out... :)
    Got to have a decent amount of fresh oil
    that you're willing to sacrifice.
    Always plenty of that here... not always as fresh as it might be,
    though.... ;)

    Problem is that the stuff does go, and when it
    does, rapidly. I wonder if you could help it
    stay fresh by squeezing a couple caps of vitamin
    E into the jug.

    The training everyone that works there to consider themselves part of
    the customer service can be done with any operation... and probably
    would help a shoestring operation prosper to become something better...
    If the shoestring operation had the
    resources to provide the guidance - which
    is the problem with businesses that have
    had to cut to the bone.
    It doesn't really take much training per se, more just an atmosphere in
    which to work.... :)

    Supervision as much as training, then. Also
    in short supply in such businesses.

    One does. Especially with the charts that show how "equitable" they
    were with the layoffs... two people with same years of service, same
    age, one is kept the other let off... not noted was what kind of retirement they were paying into.... I wonder about that sometimes...
    The cynical side of me says, well, you know
    what the cynical side of me says.
    Yup. Probably about what my cynical side says... ;0

    Figured.

    Nobody says it has to be served in its ugly form,
    either. The Japanese take all sorts of sea detritus
    and turn it into surimi. I suggested once that
    philine, the slimy mephitic creatures that Amanda
    Newsom was studying, be made into something similar,
    and why not insects?
    True. Do it that way, and fewer people would notice... :)
    Some legislative killjoy would undoubtedly
    require there be a big label saying May contain
    insects or insect parts.
    I'm sure that the marketroids would find a way to turn that about...

    I suppose they could rename roaches crunchberries
    or something.

    I'd be suspicious of a general nut allergy that
    wasn't a general seed allergy as well.
    OK, so I did check yesterday.... and had some, as well... ;) It does
    have nuts, slivered almonds.... also some well-chopped bits of red sweet pepper.... along with the shaved brussels sprouts and the cranberries,
    and an oil dressing...

    Looks sort of like what I'd expect, and better
    than the recipe I posted with its idiotic nutmeg.

    I tend not to make a fuss.... but it doesn't mean I'd stick around...
    I'm not exactly an eat a burger in front of a PETA
    demonstration type, but neither would I stop eating
    it if some zealot came across my path.
    Likewise... :)

    Once in a while someone gets in your face.
    There are numerous ways of dealing, but
    ofttimes the best way is to do nothing.

    They were essentially caramels with peanuts.
    That does sound tasty... ;) How long did the batch last....?
    It's still half there and will no doubt be
    until after I return for new year's.
    Do you expect it to taste as good when it isn't so fresh...?

    Peanuts don't rancidize easily (I know,
    there are often occasional bad ones in the
    cans, but that tells you how old they are),
    plus they're protected by all that sugar.
    And with the humidity in the house being
    30% or less most of the time, that's not
    much of an issue. Plus if the candy dries out
    it becomes closer to peanut brittle anyway.

    Cap'n Crunch chicken katsu
    categories: poultry, main, odd
    servings: 4

    1 c vegetable oil
    4 chicken cutlets (1/4 lb each)
    1/2 c all-purpose flour
    1 lg egg, beaten
    1 c Cap'n Crunch crumbs
    cooked rice, for serving
    tonkatsu sauce, for serving

    Heat oil in a large, heavy skillet over
    medium-high heat.

    Dredge cutlets in flour, dip into egg,
    then dredge in crumbs, pressing to coat.

    Add cutlets to hot oil; cook until golden
    and crispy, about 4 min per side. Transfer
    to a paper towel-lined plate to drain.

    Slice into bite-size pieces and serve
    immediately with rice and tonkatsu sauce.

    Perry Santanachote, thrillist.com
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Friday, December 07, 2018 01:58:06
    On 12-06-18 19:27, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Nancy Backus about 636 career paths was over <=-

    Do people with the 2-year certification ever
    go on to a four-year program, and would there be
    an advantage in doing so?

    Probably -- The young lady who is an NP with my dermotologist has
    training that may well be the equivalent of a Ph.D. in that she said it
    was four years past her Batchelors. She also said that she has no
    interest in becoming an M.D.

    OTOH, the man who was my primary care doctor started out as an NP. Not
    sure how long before he went on to get his doctor's degree.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Lentil Vegetable Stew--VT
    Categories: Vegetarian, Crockpot
    Yield: 8 servings

    1/4 c Sherry
    1/2 md Onion; chop <1c>
    2 md Carrots; shredded <1c>
    1 sm Sweet potato; peeled and
    -diced <1/2c>
    1/2 md Red bell pepper; diced<1/2c>
    4 cl Garlic; chopped
    2 c Lentils; dry
    6 c Vegetable broth; very hot
    1/4 ts Cumin
    1 ts Curry powder
    1/4 ts Cinnamon
    ;salt and pepper to taste

    In skillet over med high heat, bring sherry to simmering.
    Add onion and saute 2 mins. Add carrots, sweet potato, bell pepper
    and garlic; saute 1 min or until sherry has evaportated.
    Spoon into slow cooker.

    Add remaining ingredients except salt and pepper. Cover and cook on
    low 8-10 hours, until lentils are very soft and stew is thick. Salt
    and pepper to taste.
    Serve with a fragrant rice, such as basmati or jasmine.

    Per serving--156 cals; 8G prot; .3G fat; 29G carb; 0 chol; 12MG sod;
    4G fiber.
    From Vegetarian Times
    Typed by Lisa Greenwood
    From: Lisa Greenwood Date: 21 Apr 94

    MMMMM


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Saturday, December 08, 2018 16:50:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 12-06-18 19:27 <=-

    I've only met one who professed such a planned
    career trajectory, and it now appears she was
    lying in a megalomaniac way.
    I've run into quite a few that actually had taken that route,
    successfully, as well as those still in the process....
    It makes sense for those who haven't been
    on the fast socioeconomic educational track
    from their earlier days. And I think that a
    requirement to learn the practical skills
    would be a good thing, except that it would
    turn off those with that intellectual
    impatience that is prized these days.

    Both are necessary.... the practical and the intellectual....

    One issue is that nursing now attracts a different
    crowd of students from the olden days, as people are
    tumbling to the fact that it's a worthwhile Profession
    with a capital P, and not just a route to the MRS degree.
    Besides, there are now quite a few males becoming nurses... :)
    Actually, I would have been intrigued by nursing
    as a profession, because even forty years ago I
    felt that clinical physicians were turning away
    from actual health care by becoming too, well,
    clinical. It's peculiar how that term has evolved
    to mean pretty much the opposite of what it was
    meant to.

    Like so many other terms....

    Bachelors in Nursing as opposed to the Certificate course for the RN,
    it does tend to be more focused on the medical aspects.... One of my
    The school that I saw my friend Alissa graduate
    from offered the RN only combined with a
    bachelor's - probably to avoid the silliness
    that obtained at your school, whose BSW was as
    good as an MSW from anyplace else.
    Roberts Wesleyan offers the BSN, I think it is... Monroe Community, just
    the 2-yr Certificate that entitles one to test for the Registered part
    of it...
    Do people with the 2-year certification ever
    go on to a four-year program, and would there be
    an advantage in doing so?

    Yes.... and yes... Some places would give higher pay with the further education... and it might be that the further degree would also open the
    doors to more responsibility/positions as well...

    The NPs I knew from the infancy of that
    accreditation were people who likely should have
    been doctors but didn't have sufficient finances
    or maleness to get into med school.
    That was often the case back then... I know one NP that was at least the equal of just about any doctor, and in her position on a family medicine team that trained residents, she trained many a doctor to be a better
    one that he/she might otherwise have been... :) She has now retired,
    and that team does miss her, greatly... :)
    And now, to recognize that, more schools are
    offering various kinds of doctoral degrees in
    nursing (odd though that may sound). I'm all
    for the recognition but am not in favor of the
    mindset that makes people not take one seriously
    unless there's a doctor in front of the name.

    Indeed. I suppose that a doctorate in nursing might qualify one for administration or teaching, rather than being more qualified for the
    work in the wards and in the field....

    Is the crispiness a criterion? One can make
    unbreaded shrimp tails shatteringly crisp
    (that's the way I like them, too).
    Not sure... It might be.... sometime when you're here, we could test
    that out... :)
    Got to have a decent amount of fresh oil
    that you're willing to sacrifice.
    Always plenty of that here... not always as fresh as it might be,
    though.... ;)
    Problem is that the stuff does go, and when it
    does, rapidly. I wonder if you could help it
    stay fresh by squeezing a couple caps of vitamin
    E into the jug.

    I don't know how that would work... my experience with vitamin E is that
    it goes rancid soon enough, itself...

    The training everyone that works there to consider themselves part of
    the customer service can be done with any operation... and probably
    would help a shoestring operation prosper to become something better...
    If the shoestring operation had the
    resources to provide the guidance - which
    is the problem with businesses that have
    had to cut to the bone.
    It doesn't really take much training per se, more just an atmosphere in which to work.... :)
    Supervision as much as training, then. Also
    in short supply in such businesses.

    We might be thinking of different sorts of businesses... And a business
    that had to cut to the bone, for lack of proper practices that might
    have made it thrive, probably wouldn't much care about things like
    improving customer service in any case....

    Nobody says it has to be served in its ugly form,
    either. The Japanese take all sorts of sea detritus
    and turn it into surimi. I suggested once that
    philine, the slimy mephitic creatures that Amanda
    Newsom was studying, be made into something similar,
    and why not insects?
    True. Do it that way, and fewer people would notice... :)
    Some legislative killjoy would undoubtedly
    require there be a big label saying May contain
    insects or insect parts.
    I'm sure that the marketroids would find a way to turn that about...
    I suppose they could rename roaches crunchberries
    or something.

    That's not all that far-fetched.... ;0 Or locusts could be touted as
    "part of a Biblical diet".... :)

    I'd be suspicious of a general nut allergy that
    wasn't a general seed allergy as well.
    OK, so I did check yesterday.... and had some, as well... ;) It does
    have nuts, slivered almonds.... also some well-chopped bits of red sweet pepper.... along with the shaved brussels sprouts and the cranberries,
    and an oil dressing...
    Looks sort of like what I'd expect, and better
    than the recipe I posted with its idiotic nutmeg.

    Don't think this one has any nutmeg.... :) And it does make a nice
    side.... :)

    I tend not to make a fuss.... but it doesn't mean I'd stick around...
    I'm not exactly an eat a burger in front of a PETA
    demonstration type, but neither would I stop eating
    it if some zealot came across my path.
    Likewise... :)
    Once in a while someone gets in your face.
    There are numerous ways of dealing, but
    ofttimes the best way is to do nothing.

    Ofttimes, yes... :)

    They were essentially caramels with peanuts.
    That does sound tasty... ;) How long did the batch last....?
    It's still half there and will no doubt be
    until after I return for new year's.
    Do you expect it to taste as good when it isn't so fresh...?
    Peanuts don't rancidize easily (I know,
    there are often occasional bad ones in the
    cans, but that tells you how old they are),
    plus they're protected by all that sugar.
    And with the humidity in the house being
    30% or less most of the time, that's not
    much of an issue. Plus if the candy dries out
    it becomes closer to peanut brittle anyway.

    So it would still be tasty... :) Just different... :)

    Cap'n Crunch chicken katsu
    categories: poultry, main, odd
    servings: 4

    That looks like a recipe to use in some contest where one has to use a namebrand product in it.... Cap'n Crunch instead of more typical
    breading....

    ttyl neb

    ... One rotten egg doesn't spoil a dozen -- only when scrambled.

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