• 631 garbaggio was ove

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Wednesday, December 05, 2018 11:11:40
    If you'd helped in the kitchen, you could have done
    a bit better with salvaging.
    I did help in the kitchen, but it was also before I would have probably done much differently, being instructed to do so.... :)
    Weren't a good snitch artist, then, even
    though you knew that otherwise the fats'
    fate was going to be the garbage.
    Back then, I'd not considered that so much.... learned the goodness of
    fat some years later.... ;) Nowadays, I'd not let the fat be
    tossed.... :)

    I chuckle sourly at those who toss scraps and
    dripping and then pay lots of money for schmaltz
    and lard and chicken cracklings (there are all
    these trendy restaurants selling fried chicken
    skin to yuppies who pay lots of dough for boneless
    skinless at Whole Foods).

    I carved the Thanksgiving
    turkey this year and thus got all the floppy bits of
    skin, putting the pretty bronzed pieces on the platter
    (where they languished until I ate them anyway).
    You got all the good stuff, then.... :)
    Heh, otherwise it would have been binned.
    I also took whatever of the dark meat got
    eaten. There remained quite a bit when all was
    said and done, but we were flying next day,
    and Lilli doesn't like leftovers anyway.
    Didn't even wrap it and toss in the freezer for a later visit...?

    Doesn't like leftovers means doesn't like
    leftovers, and it appears to be hereditary.

    A couple days later I'd have killed for those
    turkey oysters I'd left behind.
    Sigh. ;) And, I know, you couldn't bring them with...

    What I should have done was overeaten.

    Fat is a fat is a fat, to paraphrase one of
    California's most eminent poets.
    As I said, people aren't consistent... ;)
    We were at Bill's, where Link the keto-paleo was
    given a bowl of potato-carrot stew and bread
    with cherry pie for afters. She didn't eat much.
    Was she not hungry, or was it that unappetizing...?

    Um ... there's not a thing on that menu that
    a paleo or keto person may eat.

    Tonight I'm making chicken parm with chicken-skin
    cracklings, maybe with bacon on the side. I may
    make rice or something for the starch hounds, though.
    That's just a bit meat heavy, but sounds pretty good... ;)

    But it fits the diet. Which recent researches indicate
    is better for many people than the nutritionist-flogged
    balanced diet.

    I'm usually using a flat pan, not an actual broiling pan... but I can
    see where that could be... :)
    Flat pans should have at least a lip.
    It does.... :)

    And, if you cook properly fatty stuff, a pretty
    high one at that.

    I recounted this story to him and he chuckled uneasily.
    Just a little too close to home, I suppose... ;)
    I chuckled, too, but only inwardly.
    Probably wise... ;)
    The temptation was considerable.
    Indeed. :)

    Sometimes it hurts, this biting your
    tongue business.

    I grew up mostly without it... And now, it's ubiquitous, and not that well done, in most cases...
    So Paul, who lives here, just watched Jeopardy,
    Wheel of Fortune, Mom, and the Goldbergs, not
    necessaruly un that order. My inclination is
    to agree with you.
    The first two have the possibility of at least letting the brain have a chance to work.... ;)

    Sort of like Word Connect - not too hard, but
    it gives some kind of satisfaction.

    ... Murphy's Law explains things better than conspiracy theories.

    But conspiracy theories are much better at
    explaining things that didn't happen.

    ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.01

    Title: Poached Salmon with Lobster Butter
    Categories: Fish/sea
    Yield: 12 servings

    1 Whole 7-8 lb. salmon Salt

    -------------------------------FOR THE
    BUTTER-------------------------------
    1/2 Lemon (juice only) 4 tb Reduced lobster stock *
    1 Green-black lobster brain OR 6 oz Butter

    *Note: Lobster stock should be made from shells and heads, then heavily
    reduced to make 3-4 tablespoons.

    Scale, gut and wipe the fish. Rub the inside cavity with salt. If you
    have a fish kettle, steam the salmon whole over boiling water for 30-35
    minutes (making sure the water is kept topped up). Or wrap the fish in
    lightly oiled foil and bake it in the oven for an hour at 325 F (170 C)
    gas
    mark 3. Leave it to rest while you make the butter.

    Warm the lemon juice in a small basin over a saucepan of simmering water.
    Beat in the nuggets of cold butter, adding more as each one melts. Do
    this
    gently - it can split if you overheat it (revive it with a quick splash
    of
    cold water). When you have an unctuous smooth sauce like thin cream,
    sieve
    and whisk in the green goo from the head of the lobster - which
    immediately
    turns the butter a wonderful orange-pink.

    Serve the salmon when it is just cool but still sweet-flavoured and full
    of
    its own juices, with piping hot baked potatoes and warm lobster butter.

    Source: Elisabeth Luard in "Country Living" (British), February 1989.
    Typed
    for you by Karen Mintzias

    M's note, whispered: it really isn't the brain.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Thursday, December 06, 2018 02:08:04
    On 12-05-18 10:11, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Nancy Backus about 631 garbaggio was ove <=-

    Um ... there's not a thing on that menu that
    a paleo or keto person may eat.

    I seem to be seeing those two terms a lot lately, but have no real understanding of what they mean. Can you explain in simple terms?

    <<SNIP>>

    The first two have the possibility of at least letting the brain have a chance to work.... ;)

    Sort of like Word Connect - not too hard, but
    it gives some kind of satisfaction.

    We have pretty much given up on Word Connect. We had gotten to level
    2100 or so with 200K points. All of the words now seem to be at least
    five letter, which is quite hard without spending lots of points.

    And so, we discovered that they have a new version called Word Connect 2
    and are starting out at ground level on that one.

    Too bad Nancy does not have an Ipad -- she would most likely like WC.

    Simple -- who needs a recipe for this?

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Masar Dal
    Categories: Main dish, Indian, Dal, Vegetarian
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 1/2 c Red lentils
    3/4 ts Turmeric
    2 ts Salt
    5 tb Ghee
    6 lg Garlic cloves

    Wash lentils. Place in a deep pot with the turmeric & 5 cups of
    water. Bring to a bol, stirring often. Reduce heat to medium-low &
    simmer for 15 to 20 minutes. Turn off heat & beat lentils with a
    wire whisk to smooth the puree. Stir in the salt.

    When ready to serve, simmer the puree till piping hot. Heat the ghee
    in a skillet. When hot, add garlic slices & fry till they start to
    turn brown. Pour this over the lentil puree. Stir to mix & serve.

    Julie Sahni, "Classic Indian Cooking"
    From: Mark Satterly Date: 18 Apr 94

    MMMMM


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Saturday, December 08, 2018 14:45:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 12-05-18 10:11 <=-

    I did help in the kitchen, but it was also before I would have probably done much differently, being instructed to do so.... :)
    Weren't a good snitch artist, then, even
    though you knew that otherwise the fats'
    fate was going to be the garbage.
    Back then, I'd not considered that so much.... learned the goodness of
    fat some years later.... ;) Nowadays, I'd not let the fat be
    tossed.... :)
    I chuckle sourly at those who toss scraps and
    dripping and then pay lots of money for schmaltz
    and lard and chicken cracklings (there are all
    these trendy restaurants selling fried chicken
    skin to yuppies who pay lots of dough for boneless
    skinless at Whole Foods).

    Yup, there certainly is something wrong with that picture... :) I've
    noticed Wegmans have little high-priced jars of lard, pork fat, etc...
    in the cooking oils section.... ;)

    I carved the Thanksgiving
    turkey this year and thus got all the floppy bits of
    skin, putting the pretty bronzed pieces on the platter
    (where they languished until I ate them anyway).
    You got all the good stuff, then.... :)
    Heh, otherwise it would have been binned.
    I also took whatever of the dark meat got
    eaten. There remained quite a bit when all was
    said and done, but we were flying next day,
    and Lilli doesn't like leftovers anyway.
    Didn't even wrap it and toss in the freezer for a later visit...?
    Doesn't like leftovers means doesn't like
    leftovers, and it appears to be hereditary.

    Her sons are likewise....?

    A couple days later I'd have killed for those
    turkey oysters I'd left behind.
    Sigh. ;) And, I know, you couldn't bring them with...
    What I should have done was overeaten.

    Probably.... :) At least then they'd not been wasted... ;)

    Fat is a fat is a fat, to paraphrase one of
    California's most eminent poets.
    As I said, people aren't consistent... ;)
    We were at Bill's, where Link the keto-paleo was
    given a bowl of potato-carrot stew and bread
    with cherry pie for afters. She didn't eat much.
    Was she not hungry, or was it that unappetizing...?
    Um ... there's not a thing on that menu that
    a paleo or keto person may eat.

    Oh, right.... I keep not remembering which things are off which diets...
    With a few nieces/nephews etc on the keto diet, right, that one doesn't
    allow carbs.... which would cut out most of the above... And the paleo
    diet is meat and only certain starches/veggies....? That one does
    confuse me regularly... :) Wasn't Link a somewhat vegetarian? or am I
    getting her mixed up with someone else...?

    Tonight I'm making chicken parm with chicken-skin
    cracklings, maybe with bacon on the side. I may
    make rice or something for the starch hounds, though.
    That's just a bit meat heavy, but sounds pretty good... ;)
    But it fits the diet. Which recent researches indicate
    is better for many people than the nutritionist-flogged
    balanced diet.

    It's getting so I don't really pay a lot of attention to any of them,
    with the standards fluctuating so widely... I'll eat what I want, pretty
    much, with some regard to common sense and what I know seems to work for
    me... ;)

    I'm usually using a flat pan, not an actual broiling pan... but I can
    see where that could be... :)
    Flat pans should have at least a lip.
    It does.... :)
    And, if you cook properly fatty stuff, a pretty
    high one at that.

    Have been lately doing meats in the frypan rather than the oven... But
    in the oven, likely in a Corning pan... For stuff not likely to exude
    much juice or fat, the pizza pan with a layer of foil... :) Actually,
    that one has enough of a lip that I'll broil Wegmans specialty burgers
    on it... :)

    I recounted this story to him and he chuckled uneasily.
    Just a little too close to home, I suppose... ;)
    I chuckled, too, but only inwardly.
    Probably wise... ;)
    The temptation was considerable.
    Indeed. :)
    Sometimes it hurts, this biting your
    tongue business.

    I know. I refer to it as "hamburger tongue", especially in cases where
    biting one's tongue is pretty much constant.... ;)

    I grew up mostly without it... And now, it's ubiquitous, and not that well done, in most cases...
    So Paul, who lives here, just watched Jeopardy,
    Wheel of Fortune, Mom, and the Goldbergs, not
    necessaruly un that order. My inclination is
    to agree with you.
    The first two have the possibility of at least letting the brain have a chance to work.... ;)
    Sort of like Word Connect - not too hard, but
    it gives some kind of satisfaction.

    Yup.

    ... Murphy's Law explains things better than conspiracy theories.
    But conspiracy theories are much better at
    explaining things that didn't happen.

    Maybe.

    (salmon directions etc snipped out)
    Title: Poached Salmon with Lobster Butter -------------------------------FOR THE BUTTER-------------------------------
    1/2 Lemon (juice only) 4 tb Reduced lobster
    stock * 1 Green-black lobster brain OR 6 oz Butter
    *Note: Lobster stock should be made from shells and heads, then
    heavily reduced to make 3-4 tablespoons.

    This is how the butter ingredients translated.... I'm guessing from the following directions that the OR is the reduced lobster stock to be used instead of the goo from the lobster head...?

    Warm the lemon juice in a small basin over a saucepan of simmering
    water. Beat in the nuggets of cold butter, adding more as each one
    melts. Do this gently - it can split if you overheat it (revive it
    with a quick splash of cold water). When you have an unctuous
    smooth sauce like thin cream, sieve and whisk in the green goo from
    the head of the lobster - which immediately turns the butter a
    wonderful orange-pink.

    M's note, whispered: it really isn't the brain.

    Not sure what would turn people off more, calling it the brain, or
    calling it green goo... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... Sit down, you're rocking the boat!

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Saturday, December 08, 2018 15:34:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Michael Loo on 12-06-18 01:08 <=-

    The first two have the possibility of at least letting the brain
    have a chance to work.... ;)
    Sort of like Word Connect - not too hard, but
    it gives some kind of satisfaction.

    We have pretty much given up on Word Connect. We had gotten to level
    2100 or so with 200K points. All of the words now seem to be at least five letter, which is quite hard without spending lots of points.
    And so, we discovered that they have a new version called Word Connect
    2 and are starting out at ground level on that one.
    Too bad Nancy does not have an Ipad -- she would most likely like WC.

    I've had sufficient fun helping you play it... ;) It's like the TV game shows... I can enjoy the occasional viewing of those, and trying to
    guess the answers along with the contestants, but I'm certainly not
    addicted to them.... and wouldn't want a steady diet of them... :)

    Simple -- who needs a recipe for this?
    Title: Masar Dal

    Someone that has never made them before....? Or who likes the security
    of someone else reminding how to do it...? :)

    1 1/2 c Red lentils
    3/4 ts Turmeric
    2 ts Salt
    5 tb Ghee
    6 lg Garlic cloves

    Wash lentils. Place in a deep pot with the turmeric & 5 cups of
    water. Bring to a bol, stirring often. Reduce heat to medium-low &
    simmer for 15 to 20 minutes. Turn off heat & beat lentils with a
    wire whisk to smooth the puree. Stir in the salt.

    When ready to serve, simmer the puree till piping hot. Heat the
    ghee in a skillet. When hot, add garlic slices & fry till they start
    to turn brown. Pour this over the lentil puree. Stir to mix & serve.

    Julie Sahni, "Classic Indian Cooking"
    From: Mark Satterly Date: 18 Apr 94

    A simple enough recipe... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... No, you're not paranoid. They really ARE out to get you.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to STEPHEN HAFFLY on Thursday, December 13, 2018 17:00:00
    Quoting Stephen Haffly to Nancy Backus on 12-09-18 11:12 <=-

    Yup, there certainly is something wrong with that picture... :) I've
    noticed Wegmans have little high-priced jars of lard, pork fat, etc...
    in the cooking oils section.... ;)

    I've seen those popping up in stores around here as well. The
    difference between them and the lard in the blue packages is that the
    jars don't have TBHQ and other preservatives adulterating them.

    So some cause for the premium price, I suppose... ;) Along with the
    pretty packaging.... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Dawn crept across the lawn, searching for her car keys.

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