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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Friday, November 30, 2018 15:12:14
    She must have learned to read fairly well to become concertmaster
    Yeah, and then she became concertmaster of the San
    Jose Symphony but topped out there. The fact that
    she got spewed out into the world of professional
    orchestras when they were bankrupting left and
    right didn't much help.
    Not the best climate to be in, to be sure....
    It hasn't gotten any better, either.
    There's a few orchestras that are on a better footing than that now....

    Last I checked, the Boston Symphony was the only
    orchestra in the US actually making money, and
    there was a rumor from the back office that that
    was at least partially a fiction. Philly went
    bankrupt sometime in this decade; it was bailed
    out, though, which many of the second-tier ones
    such as many of my friends and colleagues were in,
    for example, San Jose and New Orleans, had not been.

    reader. Given varying amounts of practice our
    level of competency with a particular piece
    would intersect, and with further study she
    would invariably outstrip me.
    And, true, reading is only part of it... :)
    Reading was my forte, if you will, and now of
    course it's not a picnic any more.
    Indeed. Now you have to rely more on memory....

    Study, too. I went to a rehearsal not long ago
    where I couldn't read a note but hadn't seen
    some of the music before, either. That was
    embarrassing. I'm become more distanced from
    the things I loved as my faculties become ever
    more unreliable. Something else in the losing my
    touch department: I was making fun of this piece
    of music - the pianist for my Schumann quartet
    was given the unattributed sheet by one of her
    accompanyees, and she guessed it was cutesy-poo
    Schubert, and I said it sounded more like Mozart
    at his most infantile. Turned out to be Beethoven
    Op.52, of which according to allmusic.com
    a contemporary review of the op. 52 songs in
    the Allgemeine musikalische Zeitung describes
    the set as "commonplace, poor, weak, in part
    ridiculous stuff."

    At least I got the weak and ridiculous part if not
    the right composer.

    Interesting case. How far did she progress in both
    directions? I hope enough to get some personal
    satisfaction out of it.
    We never went past that first book, but I believe that just learning
    that she could make music herself was a personal satisfaction... I don't
    know how far she progressed with reading words, but just being able to
    do it some was an achievement.... :)

    A sense of personal accomplishment is pretty
    important and something that escapes many musicians
    of considerable attainments.

    in a world of unlimited resources, they could be
    exactly replicated, unless it was discovered that
    there were other rules at work.
    Kinda what I was getting at.... the lack of unlimited resources, and the possibility of other rules at work....
    If it's important enough, the resources can be
    retargeted to that purpose. Other rules are
    likely to get into the metaphysical.
    If considered important enough, anyway.... ;)
    Dollar value being the commonest metric of
    importance these days, which is a shame.
    Indeed.

    Which has something to do with music's plight
    as well.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Saturday, December 01, 2018 18:03:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 11-30-18 14:12 <=-

    She must have learned to read fairly well to become concertmaster
    Yeah, and then she became concertmaster of the San
    Jose Symphony but topped out there. The fact that
    she got spewed out into the world of professional
    orchestras when they were bankrupting left and
    right didn't much help.
    Not the best climate to be in, to be sure....
    It hasn't gotten any better, either.
    There's a few orchestras that are on a better footing than that now....
    Last I checked, the Boston Symphony was the only
    orchestra in the US actually making money, and
    there was a rumor from the back office that that
    was at least partially a fiction.

    I believe that our Rochester Phil is doing ok now... dunno about
    actually making money, but I believe that they are on solid footing...

    Philly went bankrupt sometime in this decade; it was
    bailed out, though, which many of the second-tier ones
    such as many of my friends and colleagues were in,
    for example, San Jose and New Orleans, had not been.

    I've not paid a lot of attention to the symphonic world, admittedly... I
    am aware of some folding, or at least being on shaky ground... Judging
    from what gets broadcast on our radio, there still are quite a few good orchestras still in existence.... broadcast concerts six evenings a week
    plus Sunday afternoon....

    reader. Given varying amounts of practice our
    level of competency with a particular piece
    would intersect, and with further study she
    would invariably outstrip me.
    And, true, reading is only part of it... :)
    Reading was my forte, if you will, and now of
    course it's not a picnic any more.
    Indeed. Now you have to rely more on memory....
    Study, too. I went to a rehearsal not long ago
    where I couldn't read a note but hadn't seen
    some of the music before, either. That was
    embarrassing. I'm become more distanced from
    the things I loved as my faculties become ever
    more unreliable.

    Sigh... I suppose that sort of thing is inevitable, but still not so
    nice when it actually starts happening....

    Something else in the losing my
    touch department: I was making fun of this piece
    of music - the pianist for my Schumann quartet
    was given the unattributed sheet by one of her
    accompanyees, and she guessed it was cutesy-poo
    Schubert, and I said it sounded more like Mozart
    at his most infantile. Turned out to be Beethoven
    Op.52, of which according to allmusic.com
    a contemporary review of the op. 52 songs in
    the Allgemeine musikalische Zeitung describes
    the set as "commonplace, poor, weak, in part
    ridiculous stuff."
    At least I got the weak and ridiculous part if not
    the right composer.

    You were in good company, anyway... :) One doesn't expect that of Beethoven... ;)

    Interesting case. How far did she progress in both
    directions? I hope enough to get some personal
    satisfaction out of it.
    We never went past that first book, but I believe that just learning
    that she could make music herself was a personal satisfaction... I don't know how far she progressed with reading words, but just being able to
    do it some was an achievement.... :)
    A sense of personal accomplishment is pretty
    important and something that escapes many musicians
    of considerable attainments.

    It always was something that I tried to impart to my students... no
    matter what level they were at... :)

    in a world of unlimited resources, they could be
    exactly replicated, unless it was discovered that
    there were other rules at work.
    Kinda what I was getting at.... the lack of unlimited resources,
    and the possibility of other rules at work....
    If it's important enough, the resources can be
    retargeted to that purpose. Other rules are
    likely to get into the metaphysical.
    If considered important enough, anyway.... ;)
    Dollar value being the commonest metric of
    importance these days, which is a shame.
    Indeed.
    Which has something to do with music's plight
    as well.

    Sadly true...

    ttyl neb

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