• Re: 659 critics, life, he

    From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Tuesday, May 01, 2018 21:32:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 04-28-18 17:10 <=-

    I'm presuming that the placebo effect seldom
    includes huge massive life-threatening issues,
    In most cases, I'd presume similarly... However, if the clinical trial
    takes you off your regular medication in order to test the new one, it
    might not be an allergic reaction but your body not getting what it
    needs...
    In which case the risk is the same as with
    any other replacement medication.

    Pretty much.... I'm reminded now, though, that the placebo may not be
    totally inert... One study I was on, the placebo was the drop (all the ingredients otherwise) except for the medication itself... one could
    have a life-threatening reaction to the medium potentially...

    and if one suffers those during a study, it
    should be the duty of the investigator to stop
    the patient's participation and inform them of
    the identity of the drug, so the problem won't
    be encountered again.
    That usually is the expressed plan of action, along with the means of finding out for that individual which is being administered to them. Not doing that would be reprehensible, I'd say...
    And the drug companies never, ever do anything
    reprehensible. Right?

    One wishes... ;)

    Which is where the profit motive has us over
    a barrel, as Big Pharma can muster enough
    resources to sponsor meaningful studies, but
    naturopaths and traditional medicine people
    can't. Of course, that lets in the problem
    of observer bias as well, so no scenario is
    without disadvantages.
    Quite true....
    Science is better than no science, but most of
    it is not airtight or totally unbiased.
    Indeed.
    Which is why the national institutes and
    academic laboratories (back before corporate
    sponsored research) were so valuable.

    Yup... Probably too late to put the genie back in the bottle, but it
    would be nice to go back to such...

    I watched an episode of the Fearless Chef on the
    plane; he ate progressively weirder things,
    starting with crickets and scorpions, then going
    on to spiders (all the above at least edible),
    and drawing the line at millipedes, of which he
    took one bite and declared that it tasted like
    rotten pate. More entertaining even than Zimmern.
    Give him credit for trying a bite... (G) I've had grasshoppers... ;)
    Such critters aren't too bad fried.

    I remember them chocolate-covered... but fried would be nice too... :)

    I did have some nutso friends.
    I tried to avoid that sort of thing... ;0
    Eh, friends are friends, even if they are nuts.
    I mean getting drawn into the dares etc... had plenty of nutso
    friends...
    I'd roll my eyes at most such shenanigans.
    Remember back when that was an actual
    physical gesture?

    I've been known to practice it still... ;)

    Had two slices of pizza recently and just
    one pill, and few if any ill effects.
    Does indeed sound promising... ;)
    And today on our walk my friend Bonnie bought
    me two scoops of Christina's ice cream - malted
    vanilla and chocolate -, but I'd forgotten my
    pills. The only ill effects were a few not too
    malodorous poots, and then nothing. A pretty
    red-letter day.

    Quite amazing... I'm sure you could easily get used to that sort of
    thing... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Apparently, "Now More Cashews!" is code for "Now Only Two Pecans!"

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