On 11-17-18 21:29, Janis Kracht <=-
spoke to Ruth Haffly about Putting up was:Tempe <=-

Yes, and finally those that have been asking "What's so special about Wegman's?" will get to see whay we've been talking about.

True - I like the fact that Wegmans carries most
everything one might need for a variety of needs and
tastes. :) They sure do seem to know their audience during
each season of the year.

We like that, and also very much like the fact that they have a very
full staff. As one walks around the store, there is always a staff
member nearby to answer a question, lead you to where an item is, etc.
What we don't like about them is that they are at least five times a far
away as our local Safeway (7-8 miles vs. about 1 mile). Our local
Safeway will often have one clerk at a cash register, one behind
customer service and probably no more than that. Certainly no staff
running around the isles available for assistance.


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Title: Italian Lentil Soup (Complete Protein Vegetarian)
Categories: Main dish
Yield: 1 servings

1 c Lentils soaked 8 hours
1 c Frozen corn
2 8oz cans tomato sauce
1 sm White onion
8 Kalamata (Greek) olives,
-halved and pitted
-(optional)
2 tb Olive oil
1 qt Water
1 c Sliced mushrooms
1 6 oz. pkg. cheese
-tortellini
2 Garlic cloves

Cook tortellini and drain. Heat 2 tbs. olive oil in skillet or wok
(med. sized). dump in onion, mushroom and garlic all at once and
stir fry until mushroom and onion are tender. Put beans in large
saucepan with water and tomato sauce. Bring to boil and add corn,
olives, and mushroom mixture. Simmer 1 hour or until thickened and
lentils are done, stirring often. Add tortellini, simmer 5 minutes,
and then serve.
From: Swells@unm.Edu Date: 06-06-94

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Hi Dale,

Yes, and finally those that have been asking "What's so special about
Wegman's?" will get to see whay we've been talking about.

True - I like the fact that Wegmans carries most
everything one might need for a variety of needs and
tastes. :) They sure do seem to know their audience during
each season of the year.

We like that, and also very much like the fact that they have a very
full staff. As one walks around the store, there is always a staff
member nearby to answer a question, lead you to where an item is, etc.

Yes, very true... I remember appreciating their help many times. :)

What we don't like about them is that they are at least five times a far
away as our local Safeway (7-8 miles vs. about 1 mile). Our local
Safeway will often have one clerk at a cash register, one behind
customer service and probably no more than that. Certainly no staff
running around the isles available for assistance.

Understand, that is a drag. I think even at a much smaller, closer food store over here (It used to be a Win-Dixie IIRC, I'm not sure what company owns it now <grin>) there are a good number of clerks available to answer questions.

Basic tortellini

serves: 3-4
UNITS: US
Ingredients

2 cups flour
1 pinch salt
3 eggs
1 tablespoon oil
1 tablespoon water

Directions

Mix flour and salt in a bowl. Create a well with the flour and salt.
Whisk together the three eggs, oil and water thoroughly.
Add wet ingredients little by little to center of flour well, mixing gradually until dough becomes a ball. Turn onto a lightly floured surface, and knead until ball is smooth and elastic. Add more water if necessary. Allow to rest for thirty minutes in a lightly oiled bowl, covered with plastic wrap. After thirty minutes, cut dough into circles that are approximately 2 inches in diameter.

Place 1/2 to 3/4 tsp of filling in center of dough circle, fold over into a half moon shape, and then join edges around your finger, forming a circle shape. Cook tortellini in 2-3 batches, in hot salty boiling water for 6 minutes
or until firm. Drain, and then add to sauce!

https://www.geniuskitchen.com/recipe/basic-tortellini-pasta-36424

Take care,
Janis

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Dale Shipp wrote to Janis Kracht <=-

Yes, and finally those that have been asking "What's so special about Wegman's?" will get to see whay we've been talking about.

True - I like the fact that Wegmans carries most
everything one might need for a variety of needs and
tastes. :) They sure do seem to know their audience during
each season of the year.

We like that, and also very much like the fact that they have a very
full staff. As one walks around the store, there is always a staff
member nearby to answer a question, lead you to where an item is, etc. What we don't like about them is that they are at least five times a
far away as our local Safeway (7-8 miles vs. about 1 mile). Our local Safeway will often have one clerk at a cash register, one behind
customer service and probably no more than that. Certainly no staff running around the isles available for assistance.

Sometimes it's worth the drive. You have the most impressive grocery, etc. store I've seen/been in in quite a while. Your Weggies is the *only* stupormarkup I know of with it's own parking ramp - and three decks at
that. Internal escalators, a full service night-club, etc. It makes my
Hy-Vee pale by comparison. It's only about 5 miles for me. And right
across the street from my job. I like them because they "get it" about
customer service. Customer service (and doing the little things right)
is what generates repeat business and loyalty.

And in the grocery/food business cleanliness comes next. If I go into
a store and it's dingy and cluttered I am not going to buy anything that
is not factory sealed there. Certainly no fresh meats or produce.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Wegman's Fish w/Tomatoes, Olives & Capers
Categories: Seafood, Vegetables
Yield: 6 Servings

6 Filets-Roughy, Trout, Sole
1/2 c Flour
1/4 c Extra Virgin Olive Oil

MMMMM---------------------------SAUCE--------------------------------
1 ts Capers, drained
12 Pitted kalamata olives;
- halved
12 Sun-dried tomatoes; drained,
- cut up (olive oil packed)
28 oz Can cut tomatoes w/basil
1/3 c Chopped parsley
Salt & pepper

Sprinkle fish lightly with salt and pepper and coat with
flour.

Preheat oil in large pan over medium heat. Add fish and
cook for 1 1/2 minutes on each side. (A little longer [2 -
2 1/2 minutes] for the Orange Roughy which is thicker and
denser than the others, according to the demo man.)
Transfer to paper towels to drain while preparing the
sauce.

Add capers, olives, sun-dried tomatoes and canned tomatoes
to the frying pan. Simmer until heated through, about 2-3
minutes.

Add fish back into pan with sauce; simmer two minutes.
Transfer to platter and garnish with parsley.

Shirley and I had full servings of this at a demo at a
local Wegman's Supermarket. It was superb. The demo guy
agreed with Kathy Pitt's caution to be <very> careful
about overcooking fish. Kathy, Chief Cook at Texas Red
Lobster, wrote me once here about the best way to order
fish: ask the waiter to slowly walk the raw fish on a
platter through the hot kitchen and serve it.

Typed and U/L to NCE by Burt Ford 3/97

From: Burton Ford - Date: 15 Mar 97

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On 11-19-18 12:53, Dave Drum <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Wegmans <=-

? You are mentioning a few things that I'm not sure where you saw
that.

Sometimes it's worth the drive. You have the most impressive grocery,
etc. store I've seen/been in in quite a while. Your Weggies is the
*only* stupormarkup I know of with it's own parking ramp - and three

It does have a two story garage with a parking ramp -- not three.

decks at that. Internal escalators, a full service night-club, etc. It

Internal escalators, yes. And a separate thing to put your shopping
cart into next to the escalator. Full service night-club????? Not that
I have seen.

makes my Hy-Vee pale by comparison. It's only about 5 miles for me.
And right across the street from my job. I like them because they "get
it" about customer service. Customer service (and doing the little
things right) is what generates repeat business and loyalty.

We are in complete agreement there on Customer service. They do it
right.

And in the grocery/food business cleanliness comes next. If I go into
a store and it's dingy and cluttered I am not going to buy anything
that is not factory sealed there. Certainly no fresh meats or produce.

Again agreed. I assume that you recall going into the Lotto Korean
market that we told the echo picnic folks to avoid? A week after that
picnic the health department shut them down for a week because of rodent infestation.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: LENTILS WITH GARLIC AND ONION
Categories: Main dish, _ethnic, Vegan
Yield: 4 Servings

4 tb Vegetable oil
1/2 ts Cumin seeds
4 ea Garlic cloves, chopped
1 md Onion, chopped
1 c Lentils, washed & drained
3 c Water
1 ts Salt
1/4 ts Cayenne

Heat oil over medium heat. When hot, add cumin seeds & let sizzle
for a few seconds. Add the garlic & stir-fry till the garlic changes
colour. Put in the onion & stir-fry until they begin to brown at the
edges. Add the lentils & water. Bring to a boil, cover & simmer for
about an hour, or until the lentils are tender. Add salt & cayenne.
Stir to mix & cook another 5 minutes.

Madhur Jaffrey's "Indian Cooking"

Recipe posted by: Mark Satterly

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Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

? You are mentioning a few things that I'm not sure where you saw
that.

Sometimes it's worth the drive. You have the most impressive grocery,
etc. store I've seen/been in in quite a while. Your Weggies is the
*only* stupormarkup I know of with it's own parking ramp - and three

It does have a two story garage with a parking ramp -- not three.

I counted ground level, mid-level, roof for three decks. I could be mis-remembering, though. Even two is impressive.

decks at that. Internal escalators, a full service night-club, etc. It

Internal escalators, yes. And a separate thing to put your shopping
cart into next to the escalator. Full service night-club????? Not
that I have seen.

I was reading, after I came home from that picnic, of a jazz combo that
would be playing in the mezzanine/balcony bar area .... sounds like a
night club to me.

makes my Hy-Vee pale by comparison. It's only about 5 miles for me.
And right across the street from my job. I like them because they "get
it" about customer service. Customer service (and doing the little
things right) is what generates repeat business and loyalty.

We are in complete agreement there on Customer service. They do it
right.

And in the grocery/food business cleanliness comes next. If I go into
a store and it's dingy and cluttered I am not going to buy anything
that is not factory sealed there. Certainly no fresh meats or produce.

Again agreed. I assume that you recall going into the Lotto Korean
market that we told the echo picnic folks to avoid? A week after that picnic the health department shut them down for a week because of
rodent infestation.

I went there at the first picnic I came to at your house. The smell of festering fish caused my feet to do an automatic U-turn and find H-Mart.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Oriental Collard-Chicken-Shrimp Soup
Categories: Soups, Greens, Poultry, Seafood, Herbs
Yield: 8 Servings

1 bn Collard greens; rinsed,
- stripped, chopped in 1"
- pieces *
1 lb Boneless chicken thighs
1 lb Medium shrimp; peeled,
- deveined, precooked
3 qt Chicken broth; canned OK
4 Carrots; peeled, in 1/2"
- slices
4 Ribs celery; in 1/2" pieces
2 tb Fresh cilantro leaves; fine
- chopped
1 bn Scallions; coarse chopped
4 cl Garlic; minced
2 Lemon grass stalks
3 tb Lime juice
1 tb Sugar
1 ts Fresh grated ginger
1/2 tb Crushed red pepper; more to
- taste
4 tb Soy sauce
Salt & pepper
2 tb Dark sesame oil
1 lb Ramen or soba noodles; al
- dente

MMMMM-------------------------GARNISHES------------------------------
Pickled ginger
Watercress
Cilantro leaves
Fried noodles
Dried bonito
Toasted sesame seeds

* You could also use frozen collards, but the flavour
and texture won't be the same.

Season the chicken thighs with salt and pepper, brush
with sesame oil, and roast at 350°F/175°C for one hour.
When cool, cut into 1" pieces and refrigerate until
ready to to use at end of recipe.

Add the chicken stock and lemon grass stalks to large
soup pot and bring to boil. Slowly add the collard
greens, reduce heat to simmer, and cook for one hour
or until greens are tender.

Add all of the remaining ingredients except the shrimp,
scallions, and noodles. Stir and adjust seasoning.
Simmer for 15 minutes.

Add the shrimp and scallions, simmer for 5 minutes.

To serve, place some noodles into soup bowls and ladle
in soup. Add any of above garnishes if desired.

From: http://www.recipelink.com

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Janis Kracht wrote to Stephen Haffly <=-

Hi Stephen,

Same here pretty much.. perhaps we don't have Aldi's or Lidl here.. We
also shop at the oriental market pretty often to get supplies for
Asian cooking. The woman who comes to help out with Ron's aunt told me
about a great Italian market named Sopranos. We figure to get over
there shortly and raid their shelves :)

I know Aldi is in NYS. There is one in Brockport. I just looked and
there is one at 505 Third St in Ithaca. I'm not sure if that is the
closest one to you.

I read some texts about aldi's when I did a search for their shop here
in Ithaca:

" Aldi's isn't your typical grocery store. They primarily stock their
own brands, with occasional name brand deals. They have their own
version of all the basics, but if you're looking for something
specific, this is not the store for you. That being said, Aldi's
is delightfully cheap, especially on produce. Use your eyes and
common sense when buying fruits and vegetables here, sometimes
they will put out stock that's not quite in it's prime, so don't
buy the ones that look sad.

I've never been disappointing with the quality of food purchased at
Aldi's and some things are even better quality than the typical
name brand stuff you'd get elsewhere (think chocolate). You have
to bag your own groceries and you'll probably have to wait in a
line to check out, but it's really economical."

Believe that one. It's on all fours with my experiences at ALDI.
Especially the Moser-Roth chocolates. Bv)=

And:

This seems to have been written by some whiner who knows nothing and understands less. There is always (at least) one in every review listing

" We should have known what type of experience we were about to have
when we found out we had to insert a quarter to unlock the shopping
cart, which was chained up to all the others.

Which is explained in signage and on their web site. It helps ALDI keep
prices low because people will bring the cart back to the queue and hook
it up to get their quarter back. But the whiner doesn't mention that.

Apparently she has never shopped in a "no frills" semi-warehouse style
of market .... among the other cluelessnesses exhibited.

The first thing we noticed in the store was almost all the brands
are brands you've never heard of, and are of low quality.

What would you bet the old trout didn't actually buy/sample and of the
product she seems to be shaming.

The "shelves" aren't shelves, but instead are carts on wheels...
perfect for closing an operation down and leaving town in the
middle of the night.

HUH?!?!? I've not seen that in *any* ALDI. And they don't "leave town
in the middle of the night."

The isles consisted of random items placed side by side which
appeared to be whatever happened to be excess stock coming from
who knows where. For example...right next to the cheese there
were garden hoses.

That is purest buffalo bagels. The cheese in an ALDI is in a refrigerated gondola or a reach-in refrigerated case. Garden hoses and other "hard
goods" like cooking utensils and "special buy" item are in their own
aisle. Once in a while there may be a "stack-out" on a product they are pushing.

But, overall, products are grouped as one (except THAT one) might expect.
Just, maybe not in the same order as Kroger or Wegmans, but canned veg
are all shelved together, jarred sauces are together, cereals, box mixes,
etc. are all in close proximity.

We tried to find a couple things so not to make the trip a complete
waste of time. Once we got to the cashier to pay, we were told Aldi
only accepts cash or debit....another sign of a fine business. If
you'd like to find some weird, low quality brands you've never
heard of and are in need of cheese and garden hoses, you'll love
this place."

I wonder what the date on that "review" is. I typically use my American
Express CREDIT card at my ALDI. They also accept ca$h, WIC, LINK, Food
Stamps, etc.

Their house brands are the "weird" labels that Madame Clueless whines
about. And, had she checked the USDA establishment number on those house branded items she would have found that the Cream of Mushroom soup is
done by Campbell, the canned green beans by Del Monte, etc., etc.

I dunno... I will probably check it out, but not really plan on
shopping there much, given those two comments. Especially these days, when quality of fresh stuff can be so critical. All I can say really
to that is I'm glad I've got the aerogardens going here - and who knows maybe I'll get a fourth one.

I don't buy fresh meats or produce (except Clementines) at ALDI. But,
they typically have killer pricing on eggs and milk. And their packaged meat/deli items - like smoked sausages, lunch meat - are real bargains.

ALDI is a regular stop on my grocery expeditions. I'm not a "buy it all
in one stop" sort of shopper.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

Title: Easy Potato Latkes
Categories: Five, Potatoes, Vegetables, Kosher
Yield: 10 Servings

2 sm Onions
6 md Potatoes
3 lg Eggs
Salt & pepper
3/4 c Oil for frying

Peel and grate potatoes and onions together. Squeeze
liquid out of mixture. Stir in eggs, salt and pepper.

Pour enough oil into a skillet so that it reaches a
depth of 1/4"; heat over medium-high heat. Drop spoon
of mixture into hot oil. Fry until golden on one side;
flip, and fry until golden on the other side.

Makes 10 servings.

From: http://www.kroger.com

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Hi Janis,

On (29 Nov 18) Janis Kracht wrote to Stephen Haffly...

I read some texts about aldi's when I did a search for their shop here
in Ithaca:

" Aldi's isn't your typical grocery store. They primarily stock their
own brands, with occasional name brand deals. They have their own
version of all the basics, but if you're looking for something
specific, this is not the store for you.

They do carry name brands as well as their house brands. The house
brands can save money, and we have found them to be a good quality.

That being said, Aldi's is delightfully cheap, especially on produce.
Use your eyes and common sense when buying fruits and vegetables
here, sometimes they will put out stock that's not quite in it's
prime, so don't buy the ones that look sad.

Like any store, the longer produce sits out, the lower the quality. Aldi
has been advertising lately that it receives fresh produce so take the
above with a grain of salt. We've gotten excellent produce from there.
The few times we have gotten some past its prime, we have been able to
return it. The Aldi policy is to both replace the defective produce
and to refund the purchase price so in essence, you get it free.

I've never been disappointing with the quality of food purchased at Aldi's and some things are even better quality than the typical name brand stuff you'd get elsewhere (think chocolate).

Agreed about the chocolate. :)

You have to bag your own groceries and you'll probably have to wait
in a line to check out, but it's really economical."

Aldi follows the German model. Bring your own bags or you can purchase
bags. The cashier will ring items up and place them in a cart which you
then wheel to a counter where you can bag them (or grab some empty boxes
to use). Or you can wheel it to your vehicle and bag it there if you
didn't bring your bag(s) in.

And:

" We should have known what type of experience we were about to have
when we found out we had to insert a quarter to unlock the shopping
cart, which was chained up to all the others.

There is a reason for this. People are more likely to return carts if
there is a monetary incentive (getting the quarter back). In turn, Aldi
does not need to send people out to round up carts and bring them back.
Carts are less likely to be left blocking parking places or left to roll
and hit vehicles. Sometimes, we will just get a cart from someone who
just finished shopping and give that person the quarter. Often, someone
just gives us the cart and won't take the quarter. If that happens, then
we pay it forward by passing the cart on to the next inbound shopper.
I don't view the cart situation as a negative.

The first thing we
noticed in the store was almost all the brands are brands you've
never heard of, and are of low quality.

The writer appears to have a bias toward name brand items. Low quality?
I've had excellent Aldi brand items that were equivalent to name brands.
One does have choices, perhaps not the variety of a Wegmans, but there
are good choices to be had among staple items.

The "shelves" aren't shelves, but instead are carts on
wheels...perfect for closing an operation down and leaving town in
the middle of the night. The isles consisted of random items
placed side by side which appeared to be whatever happened to be
excess stock coming from who knows where. For example...right next
to the cheese there were garden hoses. We tried to find a couple
things so not to make the trip a complete waste of time. Once we
got to the cashier to pay, we were told Aldi only accepts cash or debit....another sign of a fine business. If you'd like to find
some weird, low quality brands you've never heard of and are in
need of cheese and garden hoses, you'll love this place."

Yes, Aldi uses mobile fixtures, not so they can close down and leave
town, but to facilitate flexibility in product placement. Excess stock?
Rather items that have an excellent value and are much less expensive
than even Walmart. We have purchased induction cooking devices, electric pressure cookers, motion-sensor lights, and other items at Aldi at
really good prices. The writer fails to mention German specialties such
as Stollen, Lebkuchen, various varieties of meats, and breads in
addition to the cheeses. Sometimes the arrangements can be interesting
such as the juxtaposition mentioned, but that isn't bad. The cheese is refrigerated if appropriate so garden hoses may be across the aisle, but
not in the same case. As for checking out, I do believe they accept
credit as well as debit cards. They don't accept checks as far as I
know. That helps speed up checkout as one does not have to wait for
someone to fill out a check. That seems to be the trend anyway for many businesses.

I dunno... I will probably check it out, but not really plan on
shopping there much, given those two comments. Especially these days, when quality of fresh stuff can be so critical. All I can say really
to that is I'm glad I've got the aerogardens going here - and who
knows maybe I'll get a fourth one.

I think you will have a different opinion once you actually go and see
one. Ruth and I prefer Aldi to the Lidl (a German competitor) that
opened near us. Lidle does not lock their carts. We think the quality of
Aldi products is better than those of Lidl.

Steve is > going to smoke 2 turkeys.

They turned out to be very good and were well received.

That good to hear, I bet they were good. Does the meat remain juicy?
I'm not very good on the barbeque grill myself, and always defer to
Ron's handling of food there because of that. I'm good with indoor
tools, but grills for me are a bit rough to deal with - probably
because one is almost standing in a furnace :) :)

Yes, quite so since the temperature at which smoking is done is less
likely to dry out the meat. After rinsing and patting the birds dry, I
place a quartered apple, a quartered onion, and a couple of sprigs of
rosemary plus a few sage leaves in the cavity (herbs in a bag) before
putting it in the smoker. I use a remote thermometer to monitor the
temperature to know when it is done.

I made these recently, only this time, I added about a half-cup of
sourdough starter to the mix.

MMMMM----- Meal-Master (tm) export from Gourmet Recipe Manager

Title: Bazlama - Turkish Flat Bread
Categories: Mediterranean, Breads
Yield: 4 servings

1 pk active dry yeast (.25 oz)
1 tb white sugar
1 tb salt
1 1/2 c warm water (110 degrees F or
-45 degrees C)
1/2 c Greek-style yogurt
4 c all-purpose flour

1. Dissolve the yeast, sugar, and salt in the warm water. Add the
water and yogurt to the flour and mix well. The dough will be soft but
not sticky. Turn the dough out onto a lightly floured surface and
shape it into a ball. Cover the dough with a damp cloth and allow it
to rise at room temperature for 3 hours.
2. Cut the dough into four portions. Shape the dough into rounds and
flatten each round as though you're making pizza dough. Cover the
rounds with a damp cloth and let the dough rest for 15 minutes.
3. Heat a cast iron skillet or griddle over medium-high heat. Place
one dough round in the skillet and bake until brown spots appear on
the bottom, about 1 minute. Flip the bread and bake for an additional
minute. Remove the bread and wrap it in a clean kitchen towel to keep
warm.
4. Repeat with the remaining dough rounds. Store any leftover
flatbreads in an airtight container.

Preparation Time: 1/2 hour
Cooking Time: 15 minutes
Source: sharwna

"This simple flatbread gets its tang from yogurt. It's best served
warm."
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED (C) 2013 Allrecipes.com Printed from
Allrecipes.com 6/15/2013

Note: I use 100% whole wheat flour in place of the all purpose flour.
Adding a tablespoon or two of vital wheat gluten will help the dough to
rise better. I also use raw sugar in place of the white sugar. I usually
divide the dough into eight instead of four pieces. The smaller
flatbreads store easier and are better for portion control.

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Hi Dave,

I read some texts about aldi's when I did a search for their shop here
in Ithaca:

[...]

I've never been disappointing with the quality of food purchased at
Aldi's and some things are even better quality than the typical
name brand stuff you'd get elsewhere (think chocolate). You have
to bag your own groceries and you'll probably have to wait in a
line to check out, but it's really economical."

Believe that one. It's on all fours with my experiences at ALDI.
Especially the Moser-Roth chocolates. Bv)=

Ah... chocolate..... not that I love it or anything Lol

And:

This seems to have been written by some whiner who knows nothing and understands less. There is always (at least) one in every review listing

That is true... darn it <g>

" We should have known what type of experience we were about to have
when we found out we had to insert a quarter to unlock the shopping
cart, which was chained up to all the others.

Which is explained in signage and on their web site. It helps ALDI keep prices low because people will bring the cart back to the queue and hook
it up to get their quarter back. But the whiner doesn't mention that.

I thought the same when I read that one ...

Apparently she has never shopped in a "no frills" semi-warehouse style
of market .... among the other cluelessnesses exhibited.

Seems that way... we've shopped once or twice for food in that type store over the years, certainly not often though. Mostly because before we started talking about Aldi's, I didn't think there was a semi-warehouse type place here
to shop for food :) When we lived in Binghamton I think there were several of
those type places though.

The first thing we noticed in the store was almost all the brands
are brands you've never heard of, and are of low quality.

What would you bet the old trout didn't actually buy/sample and of the product she seems to be shaming.

Lol :)

The "shelves" aren't shelves, but instead are carts on wheels...
perfect for closing an operation down and leaving town in the
middle of the night.

HUH?!?!? I've not seen that in *any* ALDI. And they don't "leave town
in the middle of the night."

I think after reading your response, that this person was on a roll and couldn't stop herself/himself LOL

The isles consisted of random items placed side by side which
appeared to be whatever happened to be excess stock coming from
who knows where. For example...right next to the cheese there
were garden hoses.

That is purest buffalo bagels. The cheese in an ALDI is in a refrigerated gondola or a reach-in refrigerated case.

Good to know, thank you :)

Garden hoses and other "hard
goods" like cooking utensils and "special buy" item are in their own
aisle. Once in a while there may be a "stack-out" on a product they are pushing.

Just Wegmans :)

But, overall, products are grouped as one (except THAT one) might expect. Just, maybe not in the same order as Kroger or Wegmans, but canned veg
are all shelved together, jarred sauces are together, cereals, box mixes, etc. are all in close proximity.

That sounds entirely real :) Like any other store, it sounds like you just have
to get used to where things are.

We tried to find a couple things so not to make the trip a complete
waste of time. Once we got to the cashier to pay, we were told Aldi
only accepts cash or debit....another sign of a fine business. If
you'd like to find some weird, low quality brands you've never
heard of and are in need of cheese and garden hoses, you'll love
this place."

I wonder what the date on that "review" is. I typically use my American Express CREDIT card at my ALDI. They also accept ca$h, WIC, LINK, Food Stamps, etc.

I'd have to dig to see... I'll try to find the date of this one tomorrow. Kinda
late now :)

they will put out stock that's not quite in it's prime, so don't
buy the ones that look sad.

Their house brands are the "weird" labels that Madame Clueless whines
about. And, had she checked the USDA establishment number on those house branded items she would have found that the Cream of Mushroom soup is
done by Campbell, the canned green beans by Del Monte, etc., etc.

heh :)

I dunno... I will probably check it out, but not really plan on
shopping there much, given those two comments. Especially these days,
when quality of fresh stuff can be so critical. All I can say really
to that is I'm glad I've got the aerogardens going here - and who knows
maybe I'll get a fourth one.

I don't buy fresh meats or produce (except Clementines) at ALDI. But,
they typically have killer pricing on eggs and milk. And their packaged meat/deli items - like smoked sausages, lunch meat - are real bargains.

I think being the lazy things the two of us are, going to more than one food store is 'out' when we shop together. I guess we save $$ on gas that way?
:) At the very least, it's less traction on my legs walking from one end of any store to the other :)

ALDI is a regular stop on my grocery expeditions. I'm not a "buy it all
in one stop" sort of shopper.

We are, some because of necessity and some because we go once..... almost every
darn day - at least Ron does. He's got quite the schedule sadly enough.

Take care,
Janis

==French Fries==
5 potatoes
olive oil for frying
salt
vinegar for serving (optional)
Serves about 4 or 5 people

Select 5 potatoes as close in size as you can. Peel the potatoes, digging out any sprouts with the tip of the potato peeler.

Cut the potatoes in half, then split the halves again. With the potatoes cut side down, slice the quartered potato lengthwise in thin strips. Meanwhile, heat the olive oil in a deep good fry pan. When it's hot (375F), carefully slip the potato slices into the oil (stand back, please). Fry for 5 minutes. Remove the potatoe slices from the oil, and then fry for 5 minutes more for 10 minutes total time. Carefully remove the pan from the heat, scoop out the crispy brown potato slices from the oil, and drain on paper towels.

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Hi Stephen,

On (29 Nov 18) Janis Kracht wrote to Stephen Haffly...

I read some texts about aldi's when I did a search for their shop here
in Ithaca:

" Aldi's isn't your typical grocery store. They primarily stock their
own brands, with occasional name brand deals. They have their own
version of all the basics, but if you're looking for something
specific, this is not the store for you.

They do carry name brands as well as their house brands. The house
brands can save money, and we have found them to be a good quality.

Yes, I understand that after reading Dave's message :) If we had more time we could probably shop there and save some $$. Unfortunately that isn't the case most days.

That being said, Aldi's is delightfully cheap, especially on produce.
Use your eyes and common sense when buying fruits and vegetables
here, sometimes they will put out stock that's not quite in it's
prime, so don't buy the ones that look sad.

Like any store, the longer produce sits out, the lower the quality. Aldi
has been advertising lately that it receives fresh produce so take the
above with a grain of salt. We've gotten excellent produce from there.
The few times we have gotten some past its prime, we have been able to
return it.

I can understand that ... but for us it wouldn't be an easy thing to do... Only
because Ron goes with a list most every day, and returning food would probably
cut into the time alloted to shopping. It is a bit crazy here with his 97 yr. old aunt living here with us.

The Aldi policy is to both replace the defective produce
and to refund the purchase price so in essence, you get it free.

That is really nice :) Is there produce selection really good?

I've never been disappointing with the quality of food purchased at
Aldi's and some things are even better quality than the typical name
brand stuff you'd get elsewhere (think chocolate).

Agreed about the chocolate. :)

haha.. a big seller, no doubt :)

You have to bag your own groceries and you'll probably have to wait
in a line to check out, but it's really economical."

Aldi follows the German model. Bring your own bags or you can purchase
bags. The cashier will ring items up and place them in a cart which you
then wheel to a counter where you can bag them (or grab some empty boxes
to use). Or you can wheel it to your vehicle and bag it there if you
didn't bring your bag(s) in.

That's different alright.. Ron usually bags groceries as they are checked out by the cashier.

" We should have known what type of experience we were about to have
when we found out we had to insert a quarter to unlock the shopping
cart, which was chained up to all the others.

There is a reason for this. People are more likely to return carts if
there is a monetary incentive (getting the quarter back). In turn, Aldi
does not need to send people out to round up carts and bring them back.

Makes sense... :)

Carts are less likely to be left blocking parking places or left to roll
and hit vehicles. Sometimes, we will just get a cart from someone who
just finished shopping and give that person the quarter. Often, someone
just gives us the cart and won't take the quarter. If that happens, then
we pay it forward by passing the cart on to the next inbound shopper.
I don't view the cart situation as a negative.

I can understand that. It makes sense.

The first thing we
noticed in the store was almost all the brands are brands you've
never heard of, and are of low quality.

The writer appears to have a bias toward name brand items. Low quality?
I've had excellent Aldi brand items that were equivalent to name brands.
One does have choices, perhaps not the variety of a Wegmans, but there
are good choices to be had among staple items.

What about Italian foods (yes, that's what I care about <grin>), is there a decent selection of those? Tomatoes, pasta, other not often purchased items, like say Cannoli shells?

The "shelves" aren't shelves, but instead are carts on
wheels...perfect for closing an operation down and leaving town in
the middle of the night. The isles consisted of random items
placed side by side which appeared to be whatever happened to be
excess stock coming from who knows where. For example...right next
to the cheese there were garden hoses. We tried to find a couple
things so not to make the trip a complete waste of time. Once we
got to the cashier to pay, we were told Aldi only accepts cash or
debit....another sign of a fine business. If you'd like to find
some weird, low quality brands you've never heard of and are in
need of cheese and garden hoses, you'll love this place."

Yes, Aldi uses mobile fixtures, not so they can close down and leave
town,

I have to admit, I laughed when I read that line regarding 'disapearing in the night' in the review :)

but to facilitate flexibility in product placement. Excess stock?
Rather items that have an excellent value and are much less expensive
than even Walmart. We have purchased induction cooking devices, electric pressure cookers, motion-sensor lights, and other items at Aldi at
really good prices. The writer fails to mention German specialties such

There is something to be said for a place that has much more than just food, like Wegmans. Sometimes I find it frustrating that Wegmans doesn't have some "other" items.

such as the juxtaposition mentioned, but that isn't bad. The cheese is refrigerated if appropriate so garden hoses may be across the aisle, but
not in the same case.

heh.. sound better :)

As for checking out, I do believe they accept
credit as well as debit cards. They don't accept checks as far as I
know. That helps speed up checkout as one does not have to wait for
someone to fill out a check. That seems to be the trend anyway for many businesses.

Yes, certainly these days..

I dunno... I will probably check it out, but not really plan on
shopping there much, given those two comments. Especially these days,
when quality of fresh stuff can be so critical. All I can say really
to that is I'm glad I've got the aerogardens going here - and who
knows maybe I'll get a fourth one.

I think you will have a different opinion once you actually go and see
one. Ruth and I prefer Aldi to the Lidl (a German competitor) that
opened near us. Lidle does not lock their carts. We think the quality of
Aldi products is better than those of Lidl.

Good produce and a good frozen vegetable section then? I grow my own lettuce and my own peppers in the aerogardens we have here, but others must be purchased..

That good to hear, I bet they were good. Does the meat remain juicy?
I'm not very good on the barbeque grill myself, and always defer to
Ron's handling of food there because of that. I'm good with indoor
tools, but grills for me are a bit rough to deal with - probably
because one is almost standing in a furnace :) :)

Yes, quite so since the temperature at which smoking is done is less
likely to dry out the meat.

I figure a low heat? about 300F or so? I've never smoked any meats.

After rinsing and patting the birds dry, I
place a quartered apple, a quartered onion, and a couple of sprigs of rosemary plus a few sage leaves in the cavity (herbs in a bag) before
putting it in the smoker. I use a remote thermometer to monitor the temperature to know when it is done.

That's a handy tool. I only have one here, stick it in, read the thermometer.. I should probably look for one like the one you use... Who makes it?

I made these recently, only this time, I added about a half-cup of
sourdough starter to the mix.

That probably gave it good flavor and start.

Take care,
Janis

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Hello Janis,

On (02 Dec 18) Janis Kracht wrote to Stephen Haffly...

I can understand that ... but for us it wouldn't be an easy thing to
do... Only because Ron goes with a list most every day, and returning
food would probably cut into the time alloted to shopping. It is a bit crazy here with his 97 yr. old aunt living here with us.

Yes, I can understand that.

The Aldi policy is to both replace the defective produce
and to refund the purchase price so in essence, you get it free.

That is really nice :) Is there produce selection really good?

I think it is pretty good. They do sell a lot of pre-wrapped items
instead of loose items. However, some things are now sold by the pound
loose which used to be pre-packaged such as bananas. I have found some
really good buys on things like mangoes, bananas, and avocados.

I've never been disappointing with the quality of food purchased at
Aldi's and some things are even better quality than the typical name
brand stuff you'd get elsewhere (think chocolate).

Agreed about the chocolate. :)

haha.. a big seller, no doubt :)

You have to bag your own groceries and you'll probably have to wait
in a line to check out, but it's really economical."

Aldi follows the German model. Bring your own bags or you can

purchase > bags. The cashier will ring items up and place them in a
cart which you > then wheel to a counter where you can bag them (or
grab some empty boxes > to use). Or you can wheel it to your vehicle
and bag it there if you

didn't bring your bag(s) in.

That's different alright.. Ron usually bags groceries as they are
checked out by the cashier.

I try to do that also, but they are ringing up sometimes too fast to
keep up. What I have not been able to bag then gets wheeled over to the
counter to finish the job.

What about Italian foods (yes, that's what I care about <grin>), is
there a decent selection of those? Tomatoes, pasta, other not often purchased items, like say Cannoli shells?

I don't think you will find the variety of Italian foods. There are lots
of German foods as could be expected from a store that originates there.
They do stock the basics. I am not sure about Cannoli shells, but they
do have some pasta items and they do carry tomatoes, fresh and canned
varieties (diced, crushed, whole, paste) if I recall correctly. They are unlikely to carry all the brands of Wegmans. That is part of how they
keep thier costs low.

Regards,

Stephen
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Hello Janis,

On (02 Dec 18) Janis Kracht wrote to Stephen Haffly...

CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

I think you will have a different opinion once you actually go and

see > one. Ruth and I prefer Aldi to the Lidl (a German competitor)
that

opened near us. Lidle does not lock their carts. We think the

quality of > Aldi products is better than those of Lidl.

Good produce and a good frozen vegetable section then? I grow my own lettuce and my own peppers in the aerogardens we have here, but others must be
purchased..

I would like to grow more, but we have no space for aerogardens

Yes, quite so since the temperature at which smoking is done is less likely to dry out the meat.

I figure a low heat? about 300F or so? I've never smoked any meats.

Smoking is done at 220F to 240F. The electric smoker is nice in that I
can set the temperature and not worry about constanty checking to make
sure it is staying there. I use a Smoke Daddy smoke generator instead of
the chip loader as I can load it and get 6 to 8 hours of smoke
generation with a load of wood pellets. That is handy if I can't get to
it for a few hours. With the chip loader, I would have to add chips
every hour or so. The low temperature is why the meat does not get dried
out.

That's a handy tool. I only have one here, stick it in, read the thermometer.. I should probably look for one like the one you use...
Who makes it?

The remote thermometer I looks like the one in the link below. I bought
it at Walmart in their outdoor section. https://www.amazon.com/Victagen-Wireless-Digital-Kitchen-Thermometer /dp/B07226JHSM/

I made these recently, only this time, I added about a half-cup of sourdough starter to the mix.

That probably gave it good flavor and start.

They turned out to be one of the best tasting batches I have made. I
think I will continue to use sourdough starter when making them.

Regards,

Stephen
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Hi Stephen,

see > one. Ruth and I prefer Aldi to the Lidl (a German competitor)
that

opened near us. Lidle does not lock their carts. We think the

quality of > Aldi products is better than those of Lidl.

Good produce and a good frozen vegetable section then? I grow my own
lettuce and my own peppers in the aerogardens we have here, but others
must be
purchased..

I would like to grow more, but we have no space for aerogardens

I put mine in kind of funny places, because they fit there: outside inner backdoor of the house (tomatoes were there first, now I have the Beet Greens there) and in the living room next to the fireplace mantel (we never use that fireplace so it's a good place for the aerogarden). In that one I have the peppers and lettuce growing now (it is a larger 'garden model' from aerogarden). When the peppers are done, I'll probably plant some more cherry tomatoes (they are very large and great to have around).

Yes, quite so since the temperature at which smoking is done is less
likely to dry out the meat.

I figure a low heat? about 300F or so? I've never smoked any meats.

Smoking is done at 220F to 240F. The electric smoker is nice in that I
can set the temperature and not worry about constanty checking to make
sure it is staying there. I use a Smoke Daddy smoke generator instead of
the chip loader as I can load it and get 6 to 8 hours of smoke
generation with a load of wood pellets. That is handy if I can't get to
it for a few hours. With the chip loader, I would have to add chips
every hour or so. The low temperature is why the meat does not get dried
out.

Ah makes sense. I've never used a smoker. I may try it out.

That's a handy tool. I only have one here, stick it in, read the
thermometer.. I should probably look for one like the one you use...
Who makes it?

The remote thermometer I looks like the one in the link below. I bought
it at Walmart in their outdoor section. https://www.amazon.com/Victagen-Wireless-Digital-Kitchen-Thermometer /dp/B07226JHSM/

Ok, looked really nice so I ordered one from Amazon. My thermoneter is on it's
last legs.. I put it the oven and forgot I was only going to leave it in there for a few minutes (argh... that was a mess <grin>). The link said oven safe so
that is a big plus for me, thank you for the link.

I made these recently, only this time, I added about a half-cup of
sourdough starter to the mix.

That probably gave it good flavor and start.

They turned out to be one of the best tasting batches I have made. I
think I will continue to use sourdough starter when making them.

That sounds like a good idea :)

Take care,
Janis

Sausage and Peppers

1 1/2 lbs. italian sausage links
2-3 green peppers, sliced
1 large onion, sliced
2 TB. olive oil
3 cloves garlic, minced

Before cooking, prick each sausage link with a fork once. Heat the olive oil in
a large skillet on medium heat, then add the garlic. When the garlic is lightly
browned add sausage links. Allow the sausage links to brown in the olive oil on one side, then turn the sausage over to brown the other side. Continue turning the sausage until all sides are brown while cooking them. Push the sausage a bit to make room for the peppers and add the peppers to the pan. Cook for about 5 minutes, then add the onion slices.

You can cover the frying pan with it's pot top now for about 5-10 minues to make sure the sausage is cooked through and through. Remove the pot top so that
the juices cook down. Stir contents now and then to make sure the peppers and onions cook until wilted. Cook the sausage until it reaches a temperature of 160F. Serve on roll with generous amounts of onions and peppers. You can season this with garlic salt and pepper to taste, but if you get decent sausage
you probably won't need to add any seasoning.

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Hi Stephen,

... for us it wouldn't be an easy thing to
do... Only because Ron goes with a list most every day, and returning
food would probably cut into the time alloted to shopping. It is a bit
crazy here with his 97 yr. old aunt living here with us.

Yes, I can understand that.

While I don't remember seeing lines for returns at Wegmans, I can't imagine the
process would be especially quick... just a guess.

The Aldi policy is to both replace the defective produce
and to refund the purchase price so in essence, you get it free.

That is really nice :) Is there produce selection really good?

I think it is pretty good. They do sell a lot of pre-wrapped items
instead of loose items. However, some things are now sold by the pound
loose which used to be pre-packaged such as bananas. I have found some
really good buys on things like mangoes, bananas, and avocados.

I get a lot of bananas and some avocados so that's good. Ron isn't a fan of avocados and I don't mind that <g>

What about Italian foods (yes, that's what I care about <grin>), is
there a decent selection of those? Tomatoes, pasta, other not often
purchased items, like say Cannoli shells?

I don't think you will find the variety of Italian foods. There are lots
of German foods as could be expected from a store that originates there.

Ok, that could be a plus as well.

They do stock the basics. I am not sure about Cannoli shells, but they
do have some pasta items and they do carry tomatoes, fresh and canned varieties (diced, crushed, whole, paste) if I recall correctly. They are unlikely to carry all the brands of Wegmans. That is part of how they
keep thier costs low.

I typically by wegmans-brand "no-name" canned whole tomatoes, and their tomato paste for sauce from Wegmans so I expect that what Aldis will have will work.

Take care,
Janis

Here's a cake I made last night, and iced today... and then we all ate some about an hour ago :) Gigantic cake... 3 layers of heaven:

===Italian Cream Cake ===
Ingredients

5 large eggs, separated
1 cup butter, softened
1-2/3 cups sugar
1-1/2 teaspoons vanilla extract
2 cups all-purpose flour
3/4 teaspoon baking soda
1/2 teaspoon salt
1 cup buttermilk
1-1/3 cups sweetened shredded coconut
1 cup chopped pecans, toasted
FROSTING:
12 ounces cream cheese, softened
6 tablespoons butter, softened
2-1/4 teaspoons vanilla extract
5-2/3 cups confectioners' sugar
3 to 4 tablespoons heavy whipping cream
1/2 cup chopped pecans, toasted
1/4 cup toasted sweetened shredded coconut, optional

Directions

Place egg whites in a small bowl; let stand at room temperature 30 minutes.
Preheat oven to 350°. Line bottoms of three greased 9-in. round baking pans with parchment paper; grease paper.
In a large bowl, cream butter and sugar until light and fluffy. Add egg yolks, one at a time, beating well after each addition. Beat in vanilla. In another bowl, whisk flour, baking soda and salt; add to creamed mixture alternately with buttermilk, beating well after each addition. Fold in coconut and pecans.
With clean beaters, beat egg whites on medium speed until stiff peaks form. Gradually fold into batter. Transfer to prepared pans. Bake 20-25 minutes or until a toothpick inserted in center comes out clean. Cool in pans 10 minutes before removing to wire racks; remove paper. Cool completely.
For frosting, in a large bowl, beat cream cheese and butter until smooth. Beat in vanilla. Gradually beat in confectioners' sugar and enough cream to reach spreading consistency. Spread frosting between layers and over top and sides of cake. Sprinkle with pecans and, if desired, coconut. Refrigerate leftovers.

Editor's Note: To toast pecans and coconut, spread each, one at a time, in a 15x10x1-in. baking pan. Bake at 350° for 5-10 minutes or until lightly browned,
stirring occasionally.

Editor's Note
To toast coconut, bake in a shallow pan in a 350° oven for 5-10 minutes or cook
in a skillet over low heat until golden brown, stirring occasionally. To toast nuts, bake in a shallow pan in a 350° oven for 5-10 minutes or cook in a skillet over low heat until lightly browned, stirring occasionally.

Janis's note: I didn't have pecans last night (thought I did :().. so I used slightly crushed pistachios. The cake came out great and the pistachios seemed
to fit right in with the cream cheese, etc. frosting. I also did not toast the
pistachios. I also did not have buttermilk so I poured 1 cup milk in a bowl and added about 2-3 TB of vinegar to the milk. I let it sit for about 10 minutes and it was perfect for this recipe.

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Janis Kracht wrote to Stephen Haffly <=-

They do stock the basics. I am not sure about Cannoli shells, but they
do have some pasta items and they do carry tomatoes, fresh and canned varieties (diced, crushed, whole, paste) if I recall correctly. They are unlikely to carry all the brands of Wegmans. That is part of how they
keep thier costs low.

I typically by wegmans-brand "no-name" canned whole tomatoes, and their tomato paste for sauce from Wegmans so I expect that what Aldis will
have will work.

I remember watching my mother take all day (it seemed) to make red gravy
from scratch. And I have done so a time or three. But, my common practice
is to either grab a jar of Onofrio's (not sure if it's available to you
except for mail order - I'll give you Joe's web site) or just get what
ever is least expensive without HFCS on the ingredients and "tart it up"
at home. Once I figured out that using a zippy Italian sausage instead
of hamburger was the bomb I've been in pasta heaven.

http://onofrios.com/Aboutus.html

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Title: "Onofrio's" Simple Seafood Marinara
Categories: Seafood, Pasta, Cheese
Yield: 5 Servings

26 oz Jar Onofrio's Classic
- Marinara
4 oz White wine
6 oz Salad shrimp
6 oz Imitation Krab or real crab;
- picked over *
1 Lemon; sliced thin; garnish
Chopped parsley; garnish
1 lb Linguini or pasta of choice;
- cooked & reserved

In 4 quart sauce pan, add wine simmer until reduced by
two-thirds. Add shrimp, Krab and Onofrio's Classic
Marinara.

Bring to light boil. Simmer till lightly thickened. Serve
over reserved pasta. Garnish with chopped parsley, sliced
lemons, and Parmesan cheese.

* I've had this, both at the Track Shack (Joe's Caffe'/
Osteria) and at home. I got all nose-in-the-air and used
*real* crab meat instead of the Krab. Surprise, the Krab
works just as well here. - UDD

Recipe by Giuseppe Janazzo

Serves 4-6.

From: http://www.onofrios.com

Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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Quoting Janis Kracht to Stephen Haffly on 12-04-18 23:07 <=-

... for us it wouldn't be an easy thing to
do... Only because Ron goes with a list most every day, and returning
food would probably cut into the time alloted to shopping. It is a bit
crazy here with his 97 yr. old aunt living here with us.

Yes, I can understand that.

While I don't remember seeing lines for returns at Wegmans, I can't imagine the process would be especially quick... just a guess.

At our Wegmans, it's not very long at all... one just goes to the
Service Desk with the item to return, and when one's turn comes,
explains the situation... They either refund your money or someone can
go get a replacement for you... I've done it more than once.... and
always had prompt cheerful service... :)

ttyl neb

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Hi Janis,

On (04 Dec 18) Janis Kracht wrote to Stephen Haffly...

I would like to grow more, but we have no space for aerogardens

I put mine in kind of funny places, because they fit there: outside
inner backdoor of the house (tomatoes were there first, now I have the Beet Greens there) and in the living room next to the fireplace mantel
(we never use that fireplace so it's a good place for the aerogarden).
In that one I have the peppers and lettuce growing now (it is a
larger 'garden model' from aerogarden). When the peppers are done,
I'll probably plant some more cherry tomatoes (they are very large and great to have around).

I did not know about the larger models. I have only seen the smaller
ones in the stores. Still, we don't have room for one. Our house is 1260
square feet and we have too much stuff in it already.

That's a handy tool. I only have one here, stick it in, read the
thermometer.. I should probably look for one like the one you use...
Who makes it?

The remote thermometer I looks like the one in the link below. I

bought > it at Walmart in their outdoor section.

https://www.amazon.com/Victagen-Wireless-Digital-Kitchen-Thermometer /dp/B07226JHSM/

Ok, looked really nice so I ordered one from Amazon. My thermoneter
is on it's last legs.. I put it the oven and forgot I was only going
to leave it in there for a few minutes (argh... that was a mess
<grin>). The link said oven safe so that is a big plus for me, thank
you for the link.

I'm glad you found it. I had melted thermometers that were supposedly
oven safe also. The good thing about the remote one is that only the
probe is in the oven. The cord is thin enough to allow the door to shut
and the sender then sits outside where it stays cool. The receiver has a
good range so it can be moved to where you are and you can still keep
track of the temperature.

Here's something different. Our younger daughter made it and I thought
it pretty good as a dairy free treat.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm)

Title: RAW CHOCOLATE WALNUT ICE CREAM
Categories: American, Dessert
Cooktime: 1/2 hour
Preparation Time: 10 minutes
Link: http://rawforbeauty.com/blog/raw-chocolate-walnut-ice-cream.html

2 c Walnuts
2 c Water
1 c Maple syrup or honey
2 tb Cocoa powder
1 tb Vanilla extract (optional)
1/2 ts Sea Salt (Himalayan or Celtic) (optional)


1. On high speed mix all ingredients until smooth fluffy ice cream
like consistency.

2. Place in the freezer overnight!


Source: Liana Werner-Gray in Costa Rica

ACTION: Either use an ice cream maker, Vitamix or High Speed Blender.

TIP: Freeze for a few hours and then process again in the blender to
make it even creamier!

+ ADD EXTRA cocoa if you like super CHOCOLATE, add extra maple syrup
if you like SUPER SWEET!

+ To replace the nuts (for nut allergies) use hemp seeds or sunflower
seeds.

DAIRY FREE. REFINED SUGAR FREE. SOY FREE. GLUTEN FREE. CHEMICAL FREE.
ARTIFICIAL ANYTHING FREE. PROVIDES BODY NUTRITION.

This recipe was designed by Liana Werner-Gray in Costa Rica 2013.

Source: The Earth Diet

*Nutritional information reflects amount per batch.*
CALORIES 2622
TOTAL FAT (g) 147
Saturated Fat (g) 15
CHOLESTEROL (mg) 0
SODIUM (mg) 1203
TOTAL CARBOHYDRATE (g) 319
Dietary Fiber (g) 20
Sugars (g) 286
PROTEIN (g) 39



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Regards,

Stephen
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Hi Janis,

On (04 Dec 18) Janis Kracht wrote to Stephen Haffly...

While I don't remember seeing lines for returns at Wegmans, I can't imagine the process would be especially quick... just a guess.

It isn't that bad. I don't see people returning things much. We
purchased an Ambiano (Aldi brand) Sous Vide. When I got it home, I
tested it, but the one I got was defective. I returned it. That was
painless and fast. What took longer was that I had lost the receipt. The associate was kind enough to look up the transaction and print a
duplicate receipt. It comes with a 3 year warranty so I wanted the
receipt for that. The replacement one I got is working properly. So far,
we have purchased induction cooking devices, pressure cookers, digital
scales, and various other non-grocery items as well as groceries and, of course, chocolate. :)

===Italian Cream Cake ===

Looks wonderful, but Ruth does not like coconut, so we probably won't
make it.

One good desert deserves another:

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm)

Title: Southern Banana Pudding Recipe
Categories: Southern Food, Desserts
Cooktime: 15 minutes
Preparation Time: 20 minutes
Link: http://www.tasteofsouthern.com/southern-banana-pudding-recipe/

-------------------------------PUDDING-------------------------------
3 - cups of Milk
1/4 - cup of All Purpose Flour
1/2 - cup of Sugar
3 - Eggs, separated
1 - teaspoon of Vanilla Extract
1 - box of Vanilla Wafers
4-6 - ripe Bananas, sliced

-------------------------------MERANGUE-------------------------------
1/8 ts cream of tartar (optional)
1/4 c sugar (optional)



Preheat your oven to 350 degrees.

Separate 3 eggs, set the whites aside for later use in the meringue.
Add 3 cups of milk to a medium saucepan. Place over LOW heat on your
stovetop.
Slowly add flour, whisking continually to avoid lumps.
Slowly stir in 1/2 cup of sugar, whisking continually until fully
dissolved.
Use a fork and break up the egg yolks.
Slowly add the egg yolks to the saucepan, whisking continually to
avoid making scrambled eggs. It's very important to stay with the
cooking process at this point. Keep stirring.
Increase the heat gradually up to about medium as you constantly
whisk the pudding mixture.
Using a candy thermometer, bring the mixture up to 170 degrees.
Continue to stir it constantly as it thickens. When it reaches 170
degrees, remove from heat but continue to stir.
Add the teaspoon of Vanilla Extract and continue to stir off and on
as it cools down. The mixture must cool down before you begin to
assemble the banana pudding.
When fairly cool, spread a light layer of the pudding in a casserole
dish.
Add a layer of Vanilla Wafers. Reserve about 5 or 6 wafers for
topping later.
Add a layer of sliced bananas.
Add a layer of pudding mixture, spreading it out to the edges of the
dish.
Repeat the layer process as needed, ending with a layer of the
pudding mixture on top.
Crumble the 5 or 6 reserved wafers and sprinkle on top. If not
adding the meringue, bake this at 350 degrees for about 10-15 minutes.
Let cool and serve. Hopefully you'll try the meringue.

Meringue:

Place the room temperature egg whites in a glass or metal mixing
bowl.
Using a mixer or whisk, beat the egg whites until they appear frothy
in texture.
Add about 1/8th teaspoon of Cream of Tartar.
Increase mixer speed and beat until the egg whites form soft peaks.
Add the sugar. Continue to whip, increasing speed as needed until
the egg whites thicken and form firm peaks. Do not over work the egg
whites as it will cause them to lose volume.
Use a spatula and gently spread the meringue over the pudding
mixture.
Gently dab the spatula up and down in the meringue to form small
swirls and peaks.
Place the dish in the preheated 350 degree oven and bake for 10 to
15 minutes. Watch it carefully so the egg white meringue doesn't burn.
It just needs to be slightly toasted and browned.
Remove from oven, let cool, refrigerate until cold then serve.

Rating: 5/5 stars
Source: Taste of Southern

Nothing tops off a great home-cooked Southern meal any better than
down home, made-from-scratch, banana pudding. Or, as we sometimes call
it "naner puddin." It's just downright good and most definitely a
Southern tradition.

MMMMM

Regards,

Stephen
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Hi Nancy,

... for us it wouldn't be an easy thing to
do... Only because Ron goes with a list most every day, and returning
food would probably cut into the time alloted to shopping. It is a bit
crazy here with his 97 yr. old aunt living here with us.

Yes, I can understand that.

While I don't remember seeing lines for returns at Wegmans, I can't
imagine the process would be especially quick... just a guess.

At our Wegmans, it's not very long at all... one just goes to the
Service Desk with the item to return, and when one's turn comes,
explains the situation... They either refund your money or someone can
go get a replacement for you... I've done it more than once.... and
always had prompt cheerful service... :)

Wegman's staff is typically very helpful, so yes, I guess that makes sense :)

Take care,
Janis

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Hi Stephen,

I would like to grow more, but we have no space for aerogardens

I put mine in kind of funny places, because they fit there: outside
inner backdoor of the house (tomatoes were there first, now I have the
Beet Greens there) and in the living room next to the fireplace mantel
(we never use that fireplace so it's a good place for the aerogarden).
In that one I have the peppers and lettuce growing now (it is a
larger 'garden model' from aerogarden). When the peppers are done,
I'll probably plant some more cherry tomatoes (they are very large and
great to have around).

I did not know about the larger models. I have only seen the smaller
ones in the stores. Still, we don't have room for one. Our house is 1260 square feet and we have too much stuff in it already.

I understand that one :) This house is somewhat close to that, 1638 Sq. ft.. We do squash a bit in here <vbg>.. It is certainly a LOT smaller than our house
in Windsor. IIRC,that house in Windsor was 3,800 sq. feet.. and a monster to keep clean since it had 3 floors of living space. This one is a LOT easier to take care of for me :)

That's a handy tool. I only have one here, stick it in, read the
thermometer.. I should probably look for one like the one you use...
Who makes it?

The remote thermometer I looks like the one in the link below. I

bought > it at Walmart in their outdoor section.

https://www.amazon.com/Victagen-Wireless-Digital-Kitchen-Thermometer
/dp/B07226JHSM/

Ok, looked really nice so I ordered one from Amazon. My thermoneter
is on it's last legs.. I put it the oven and forgot I was only going
to leave it in there for a few minutes (argh... that was a mess
<grin>). The link said oven safe so that is a big plus for me, thank
you for the link.

I'm glad you found it. I had melted thermometers that were supposedly
oven safe also.

Yep, that can be irritating... at one's self for not remembering Lol

The good thing about the remote one is that only the
probe is in the oven. The cord is thin enough to allow the door to shut
and the sender then sits outside where it stays cool. The receiver has a
good range so it can be moved to where you are and you can still keep
track of the temperature.

Yes, I've been very happy with it since I purchased it. It works perfectly and
does not stand the chance of going through the "melt-down" the other one did :) I was very happy that the cord was thin enough to close the oven door.

Here's something different. Our younger daughter made it and I thought
it pretty good as a dairy free treat.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm)

Title: RAW CHOCOLATE WALNUT ICE CREAM
Categories: American, Dessert
Cooktime: 1/2 hour
Preparation Time: 10 minutes
Link: http://rawforbeauty.com/blog/raw-chocolate-walnut-ice-cream.html

That one reminds me of a recipe my daughter used to make with cashews. Also very good:

===Vegan Cashew Ice Cream===

Makes 1 quart

Ingredients

16 ounces smooth unsweetened cashew butter (not raw)
2 cups unsweetened cashew, almond, or soy milk
3/4 cup maple syrup
Pinch of salt
Equipment

Ice cream maker
Blender
Measuring cups and spoons
Freezer-safe container
Wax paper, parchment paper, or plastic wrap

Instructions

Chill the ice cream bowl, if needed. If your ice cream machine has a bowl that needs to be frozen before churning, put it in the freezer the night before
you plan to make ice cream. Unlike other ice cream bases that can chill overnight, you'll want to make this base the same day you plan to churn it.

Blend the ingredients base. Place all the ingredients in a blender and blend until smooth, about 3 minutes.

Churn the ice cream base. Transfer the ice cream base to the bowl of your ice cream machine. Churn until the base has thickened to a consistency somewhere between a very thick milkshake and soft-serve ice cream. In most ice cream makers, this takes about 20 minutes -- check the instructions for your particular machine.

Freeze until hardened, about 4 hours. Transfer the thickened ice cream to a freezer container. Press a piece of wax paper, parchment paper, or plastic wrap
against the surface of the ice cream to prevent ice crystals from forming and freeze until solid before serving, at least 4 hours.

Recipe Notes:
Storage: The ice cream will keep in the freezer for about 2 weeks before becoming icy.

Take care,
Janis

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Hi Stephen,

On (04 Dec 18) Janis Kracht wrote to Stephen Haffly...

While I don't remember seeing lines for returns at Wegmans, I can't
imagine the process would be especially quick... just a guess.

It isn't that bad. I don't see people returning things much.

That's true. And there are lot of shoppers year round it seems :)

We
purchased an Ambiano (Aldi brand) Sous Vide. When I got it home, I
tested it, but the one I got was defective. I returned it. That was
painless and fast. What took longer was that I had lost the receipt. The associate was kind enough to look up the transaction and print a
duplicate receipt. It comes with a 3 year warranty so I wanted the
receipt for that. The replacement one I got is working properly. So far,
we have purchased induction cooking devices, pressure cookers, digital scales, and various other non-grocery items as well as groceries and, of course, chocolate. :)

More and more, I'd like to check them out... :)

===Italian Cream Cake ===

Looks wonderful, but Ruth does not like coconut, so we probably won't
make it.

I'm not a big fan of coconut either. It can be left out for sure. It's only applied at the end of the recipe, on top of the filling/icing top.

One good desert deserves another:

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm)

Title: Southern Banana Pudding Recipe
Categories: Southern Food, Desserts
Cooktime: 15 minutes

This one is not very common, but it is a very good Christmas dessert :) My mom
gave me this recipe years ago, before she died.

Grandma Florence's Cowzoons (Christmas Dumplings) Pastry:
4 cups flour
1/2 cup confectioner's sugar
1/4 cup vegetable shortening
Pinch of salt
1 teaspoon grated lemon rind
1 teaspoon grated orange rind

Mix ingredients well. Set under the bowl for 1/2 hour. Roll out the dough very
fine, or if using a pasta machine, gradually roll the dough out on settings 1-6. Make sheets of dough and form dumplings as for ravioli. Fill with filling below, and press the edges of each dumpling closed with the tines of a fork. Fry the dumplings in Canola oil.

Filling:
3 cans chick peas, drained and mashed 1 pound sweet chocolate, grated
Grated rind of 2 oranges
Juice of 1 orange
1 pound raisins
1 pound chopped nuts
1 Tablespoon cocoa
2 Tablespoons sugar
1 pound honey

Mix all ingredients well, adding more honey if needed.

Take care,
Janis

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On 10-23-19 14:55, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about New Competiton was:2 <=-

Does your Wegmans have two stories? Ours does, but there is not much
on the second floor other than the parking deck outside and meeting

No, it's a single story. The parking deck is underneath the parking
lot.

AFAIK, all the alcohol sales are in one area on the main floor. I can understand why independent stores put up objections; they'd probably
be undercut price wise. Other than what's sold in grocery stores and by the drink places, NC alcohol sales are state run.

By Maryland law, the only independent stores who can sell alcoholic
beverages are stores who are alcoholic beverage stores. The only other
thing that they sell is sodas (i.e. mixures) and snacks (e.g. potato
chips).

parking deck, being below the open air lot, has access by either
elevator or escalator. The escalator has a middle section that the
buggy is secured into, then is kept level for the ride down to the
parking area. Only other place we've seen that is in a Wal-Mart in HI
that has roof top parking.

That sounds exactly like the escalators going from the main floor to the
second floor (where the parking deck is located) in our Wegmans. There
is also parking underneath the deck -- which is where we usually park.


MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Spicy Beef Brisket Sandwiches
Categories: Sandwich, Beef
Yield: 1 servings

1 tb Coarse Kosher salt
1 ts Black pepper, coarsely
Cracked
2 ts Sweet Hungarian paprika
1/2 ts Cayenne pepper, if desired
1/2 ts Ground cumin
3 lb Brisket of beef (half a
Brisket)
Variety of rolls
Mustard (preferably a
Variety) and horseradish,
As condiment

Preheat oven to 275 to 300 degrees F.

Combine the salt, black pepper, paprika, cayenne, and cumin. Rub onto
both sides of the meat. Place meat in covered pan and bake for about
4 hours (meat should be tender enough to come apart easily). Cool
slightly and slice meat thinly to serve. (An electric knife makes
that easier).

Meat can be cooked a day in advance and refrigerated. In a covered
pan, reheat the brisket in a preheated 300 to 350 degrees F. over for
about 30 to 45 minutes; add a little water to pan so meat does not dry
out. Slice when reheated, to keep the meat moister than if you do it
in advance. The meat will be so tender that very little actual
slicing is necessary.

Serve meat with a variety of rolls, and several mustards and
horseradish as condiments.

Makes 10 to 12 servings or more. For 25 people, either triple or
quadruple the recipe, depending on the guests, and plan, similarly,
for 3 to 4 dozen rolls.

Per 4 ounce serving meat only: 3 high fat meat

about 284 calories, 21 gm fat,
111 mg cholesterol, 602 mg sodium,
9 mg calcium, 20 gm protein,
1 gm carbohydrate

Recipe: Lee Svitak Dean
Qty Measurement Ingredient

From: David Pileggi Date: 06-26
Cooking Ä

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Hi Dale,

No, it's a single story. The parking deck is underneath the parking
lot.

AFAIK, all the alcohol sales are in one area on the main floor. I can understand why independent stores put up objections; they'd probably
be undercut price wise. Other than what's sold in grocery stores and by the drink places, NC alcohol sales are state run.

By Maryland law, the only independent stores who can sell alcoholic beverages are stores who are alcoholic beverage stores. The only
other thing that they sell is sodas (i.e. mixures) and snacks (e.g.
potato
chips).

I'm not sure what our ABC stores sell other than alchol, never been into
one.

parking deck, being below the open air lot, has access by either
elevator or escalator. The escalator has a middle section that the
buggy is secured into, then is kept level for the ride down to the
parking area. Only other place we've seen that is in a Wal-Mart in HI
that has roof top parking.

That sounds exactly like the escalators going from the main floor to
the second floor (where the parking deck is located) in our Wegmans.

Neat, isn't it? Nothing tips over unless it was poorly placed/

There is also parking underneath the deck -- which is where we usually park.

Under cover--good to be out of the weather.

---
Catch you later,
Ruth
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