Certainly the manufacturers weren't under that delusion - it
must rather have been that pistachio is a difficult flavor to synthesize, so why bother. I'd have far preferred unflavored
(sweet cream, they call it) ice cream with nuts in it - truer
in every way as well as more aesthetically pleasing.

They couldn't have used real pistachio flavor....?

Too subtle, too difficult, too expensive. Or
some combination of the above.

I just wish I wasn't allergic to coffee.....

I just wish I weren't sensitive to caffeine - decaf seldom
if ever tastes as good as the real thing.

Yes I noticed that, back when I thought it was the caffeine in the
coffee that was the issue, instead of some other alkaloid (which was
still present after all, even in the decaf)....

So there's this piece we did where the choir sings
eighths and quarters, and the conductor wanted to
do it at MM=76-80, but I told him that it would be
practical at 72 or below (we were playing 32nds),
but just in case I had 1/2 a cup of the real stuff
before rehearsal. I didn't sleep for 36 hours at least.

Individuals even when beset by internal weirdnesses
usually can hold it together enough that their impact
on the real world is minimal. There are glaring and
often horrible exceptions. There probably have also
been cases when institutional imbalances haven't
caused any major disasters.

Indeed.

We're counting on it.

If there were a possible disconnect between the two,
as in Dorian Gray or Methuselah or vampires, your point
would be better taken. I don't think that there's a
documented case of humans being immune to that
correspondence. If you could vacuum pack us, maybe.

Perhaps not a total immunity, but there are some that do remain more
vital than others longer....

Within some apparent limits. There's the claim that
modern medicine will shortly get people to live to 120
to 150, depending on what you listen to. Considering
that the average lifespan has increased by over a decade
in our lifetimes, there's some plausibility to some of
the crowing. But consider: who wants to live past 100
anyway?

... Avoid exposure to the dangerous local cuisine.

Funny thing is that local guides as recent as half a
century ago often used to take that attitude.

Sad.

But that was a common attitude until recently, and it
still is in many circles. Think the foreign
proliferation of McDonald's and Watney's Red Barrel
(in different contexts).

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Title: Yam Dork Mai King / Ginger-Flower Salad
Categories: Thai, Asia-c, Salads, Exotic
Yield: 4 Servings

1 c Ginger flowers
;or 100g of thinly sliced
;wild ginger
;or young ginger
5 Onions- red shallots
;sliced
2 Garlic cloves
;sliced
1/2 c Coconut cream
1 pn Salt
1/4 c Pork- steamed
;shredded
4 lg Fish- prawns
;peeled, deveined, chopped
Herb- coriander leaves
; SAUCE
2 tb THAI CHILLI JAM
;see separate recipe
1 ts Sugar- palm
1 ts Juice- lime
1 ts Sauce- fish

Wash the ginger flowers, quarter, remove cores, separate leaves and
soak in cold water for 2 minutes. Add leaves to a pan of boiling
water, return water to the boil, drain and rinse under cold water.

Deep-fry the shallots and garlic separately in vegetable oil until
crisp and golden. Drain on absorbant paper. Gently heat coconut cream
with a pinch of salt. Stir in the sauce, pork, prawns, shallots and
garlic and mix gently. Serve sprinkled with coriander leaves and
ginger-flower leaves.

** If using wild ginger or young ginger, add to the coconut cream and
simmer over low heat for 2 minutes before stirring in the other
ingredients.

From: AUSTRALIAN GOURMET - NOVEMBER 1997 ISSN 1034-9006 - VOLUME 97,
NO. 11 By: DAVID THOMPSON Typed by: KEVIN JCJD SYMONS U/L 'COOKING'
MARCH 29 Y2K

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Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 11-13-18 10:01 <=-

Certainly the manufacturers weren't under that delusion - it
must rather have been that pistachio is a difficult flavor to synthesize, so why bother. I'd have far preferred unflavored
(sweet cream, they call it) ice cream with nuts in it - truer
in every way as well as more aesthetically pleasing.

They couldn't have used real pistachio flavor....?

Too subtle, too difficult, too expensive. Or
some combination of the above.

So how do they get away with calling it pistachio ice cream when the
nuts they put in it are almonds.... That's usually called pistachio nut
ice cream, rather than pistachio ice cream (which does have pistachio
nuts in it)....

I just wish I wasn't allergic to coffee.....

I just wish I weren't sensitive to caffeine - decaf seldom
if ever tastes as good as the real thing.

Yes I noticed that, back when I thought it was the caffeine in the
coffee that was the issue, instead of some other alkaloid (which was
still present after all, even in the decaf)....

So there's this piece we did where the choir sings
eighths and quarters, and the conductor wanted to
do it at MM=76-80, but I told him that it would be
practical at 72 or below (we were playing 32nds),
but just in case I had 1/2 a cup of the real stuff
before rehearsal. I didn't sleep for 36 hours at least.

But you kept up with his conducting....? ;)

If there were a possible disconnect between the two,
as in Dorian Gray or Methuselah or vampires, your point
would be better taken. I don't think that there's a
documented case of humans being immune to that
correspondence. If you could vacuum pack us, maybe.

Perhaps not a total immunity, but there are some that do remain more
vital than others longer....

Within some apparent limits. There's the claim that
modern medicine will shortly get people to live to 120
to 150, depending on what you listen to. Considering
that the average lifespan has increased by over a decade
in our lifetimes, there's some plausibility to some of
the crowing. But consider: who wants to live past 100
anyway?

Very good point. We had a lady in our church that lived to be over a
hundred (we had a party at church for her hundredth birthday), but she
kept saying she didn't know why she was still around.... Another lady
courted pneumonia when she was in her mid-90's, so didn't stick around
to get to that "magic age".... If someone is in particularly robust
health, and still able to do just about anything, living past 100 might
be not so bad, but there aren't many of those....

... Avoid exposure to the dangerous local cuisine.

Funny thing is that local guides as recent as half a
century ago often used to take that attitude.

Sad.

But that was a common attitude until recently, and it
still is in many circles. Think the foreign
proliferation of McDonald's and Watney's Red Barrel
(in different contexts).

I'm not familiar with Watney's Red Barrel....

ttyl neb

... I try to take one day at a time, but often several days attack at once

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