• Vehicle Trends

    From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Jim Weller on Monday, November 12, 2018 12:28:22
    Quoting Nancy Backus to Jim Weller <=-

    Minivans killed the station wagon and now SUVs are killing the
    unloved and inderrated minivan.

    Volvo has been making station wagons right along and still do

    Be that as it may, station wagons are a small and dwindling niche
    market, about 1% of all passenger vehicle sales in North America.
    Today, the top selling vehicle isn't a sedan, SUV, or compact
    crossover. It's a pickup truck. The Ford F150 has been the #1
    selling nameplate in North America for several years running now,
    Why, I don't know as very few suburban housewoves are hauling heavy
    cargo around.

    It's all down to the bean counters. Ford is going to be down to the
    iconic Mustang and the prosaic Focus for cars. All else will be
    pick-em-ups and "crossovers".

    From Car & Driver ....

    "In an unprecedented move that may reshape the entire auto industry,
    Ford will stop building all sedans and hatchbacks and shift production
    to crossovers and trucks. It is, by far, the company’s most dramatic production change in its 115-year history since Henry Ford adopted the assembly line.

    In its first-quarter statement on Wednesday, the company said it will
    sell only two car models for the U.S. market within the “next few years” and that it will "not invest in next generations of traditional Ford
    sedans for North America."

    In a separate post on Medium, Ford’s president of global markets Jim
    Farley said Ford’s trucks and SUVs will soon become 86 percent of the company’s U.S. volume. In its statement, Ford said it will rely solely
    on a two-car lineup, the new Focus Active—a raised, body-cladded version
    of its all-new Focus hatchback (a crossover, in other words)—and the Mustang." https://tinyurl.com/FORD-FLUBS-IT

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    Title: Henry Ford's Chocolate Chip Soybean Cookies
    Categories: Cookies, Desserts, Snacks
    Yield: 10 Dozen

    3 c Light brown sugar
    1 c Soy margarine
    4 lg Eggs
    3 c Cake or all-purpose flour
    1 c Soy flour
    1 ts Salt
    2 ts Baking soda
    2 tb Milk
    1 ts Vanilla
    2 c Crushed soybean nuts;
    - (roasted unsalted)
    4 c Semi-sweet chocolate chips

    Set oven @ 350°F/175°C.

    In large mixing bowl, cream brown sugar and margarine
    with electric mixer. Beat for 2 mins. Add eggs one at
    a time and cream until smooth consistency. Combine dry
    ingredients and add to mixture. Add milk and vanilla.
    Stir in soybeans and chocolate chips. Chill batter,
    if desired.

    Spray baking sheets with non-stick vegetable coating.
    Drop cookie batter onto sheets with a teaspoon. Bake
    for 8-10 minutes.

    Makes approximately 10 dozen soft cookies.

    This recipe was one of Henry Ford's favorite snacks. The
    recipe was found in Cooking For Henry, a cookbook by
    Henry Ford's personal party chef, Jan Willemse. In 1934,
    Mr. Ford requested Willemse experiment in cooking with
    soybeans, and the cookbook has an entire chapter
    dedicated to soybean recipes.

    Ford was a strong supporter of soybeans and saw the
    possibility for the use of soybeans in food, milk, ice
    cream, paint, plastics, and many other things before
    1930. In Ford's fast-growing automobile industry, and
    since, the soybean played a large part in the manufacte
    of commercial products.

    Reprinted with permission from the Indiana Soybean
    Development Council.

    Meal-Master format by Karen Mintzias

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DAVE DRUM on Monday, November 12, 2018 21:55:00

    Quoting Dave Drum to Jim Weller <=-

    Today, the top selling vehicle isn't a sedan, SUV, or compact
    crossover. It's a pickup truck. The Ford F150 has been the #1
    selling nameplate in North America for several years running
    now,

    It's all down to the bean counters.

    Not really. It's all about what buyers want.

    poultry and pork together

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Puerto Rican Caldo Gallego (Galician Soup)
    Categories: Pork, Beans, Soups, Caribbean, Chicken
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1/2 lb Dried white beans, soaked
    Overnight; drained
    1 lb Chicken thighs
    1/2 lb Spanish Chorizo sausage
    -cut into 1/2" pieces
    1/2 lb Ham; chopped
    1/4 lb Salt pork; diced
    1 md Yellow onion; peel, chop
    3 Cloves garlic; peel, chop
    2 ts Worcestershire sauce
    A few dashes of Tabasco
    2 1/2 qt Water
    1/2 lb Potatoes, peeled, quartered,
    -sliced
    1/2 lb Green cabbage; sliced thin
    2 c Kale, spines stemmed,
    -sliced thin
    1/2 lb Turnips, peeled, quartered,
    -sliced
    Salt and pepper

    Place the beans, chicken, chorizo, ham, pork, onion, garlic,
    Worchestershire sauce, Tabasco and water in a large soup pot.
    Bring to a boil; turn down to a simmer. Cook, covered, for
    45 minutes. Remove the chicken pieces from the pot and debone. Set
    the meat aside and discard the bones.

    Add the remaining ingredients except the salt, pepper and chicken to
    the pot. Simmer, covered, for 25 minutes, and then add salt and
    pepper. Return the chicken meat to the pot and simmer for a few more
    minutes.

    Recipe by: The Frugal Gourmet on Our Immigrant Ancestors

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    Cheers

    Jim

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to JIM WELLER on Tuesday, November 13, 2018 07:03:00
    JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Today, the top selling vehicle isn't a sedan, SUV, or compact
    crossover. It's a pickup truck. The Ford F150 has been the #1
    selling nameplate in North America for several years running
    now,

    It's all down to the bean counters.

    Not really. It's all about what buyers want.

    It's all about what the buyers *think* they want after being bombarded
    with advertising flack and marketroid speak at every turn. Trucks are rough-riding, ill-handling, boxy, environmentally unfriendly pieces of hardware. If one has a load to haul - then certainly a truck makes some
    sense. But for everyday transport - or even as Grandma's Grocery Getter
    they make negative sense.

    I own a pick-up truck. It's a Ford Ranger that stays parked most of the
    time. I have a need for its capabilities just often enough to justify
    the licence and insurance cost. But for the most part I druther drive
    my 4-door sedan .... it rides better, handles slick roads better, gets
    *much* better fuel mileage, and is overall more comfortable than the
    little Ranger.

    poultry and pork together

    Never a bad thing - mostly. But, I don't see its point in this recipe.
    It's just bland, featureless protein.

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    Title: Puerto Rican Caldo Gallego (Galician Soup)
    Categories: Pork, Beans, Soups, Caribbean, Chicken
    Yield: 8 Servings

    1/2 lb Dried white beans, soaked
    Overnight; drained
    1 lb Chicken thighs

    Or rabbit, squirrel, pork butt, alley cat, woodchuck, possum ......

    1/2 lb Spanish Chorizo sausage
    -cut into 1/2" pieces
    1/2 lb Ham; chopped
    1/4 lb Salt pork; diced

    My idea of pork and poultry together is bacon-wrapped chicken or ....

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    Title: Chicken Cordon Bleu I
    Categories: Five, Poultry, Pork, Cheese, Breads
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 Skinned, boned chicken
    - breast halves
    1/4 ts (ea) salt & black pepper
    6 sl Emmenthal cheese
    4 sl Cooked ham
    1/2 c Seasoned bread crumbs

    Set oven @ 350°F/175°C.

    Coat a 7" x 11" baking dish with non-stick spray.

    Pound chicken breasts to 1/4" thickness.

    Sprinkle each piece of chicken on both sides with salt and
    pepper. Place 1 cheese slice and 1 ham slice on top of
    each breast. Roll up each breast, and secure with a
    toothpick. Place in baking dish, and sprinkle chicken
    evenly with bread crumbs.

    Bake for 30 to 35 minutes, or until chicken is no longer
    pink. Remove from oven, and place 1/2 cheese slice on top
    of each breast. Return to oven for 3 to 5 minutes, or
    until cheese has melted. Remove toothpicks, and serve
    immediately.

    NOTE: I sometimes make this with chicken thighs. It's
    not authentic but it sure is tasty. -- UDD

    Recipe by: Kiersten Talley

    RECIPE FROM: http://allrecipes.com

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Wednesday, November 14, 2018 01:28:02
    On 11-13-18 06:03, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Jim Weller about Vehicle Trends <=-

    I own a pick-up truck. It's a Ford Ranger that stays parked most of
    the time. I have a need for its capabilities just often enough to
    justify the licence and insurance cost. But for the most part I druther drive my 4-door sedan .... it rides better, handles slick roads better, gets *much* better fuel mileage, and is overall more comfortable than
    the little Ranger.

    When I went shopping for my next car fifteen years ago, I had only a few factors on my mind. It should have four wheel drive so that it would be
    able to navigate in Maryland's snowy winters (which do not seem to be
    that prevalent anymore). It should have decent cargo space -- I was
    tired of trying to fit major appliances (TVs, Microwave, you name it)
    into the trunk or back seat of a sedan. And it should have a
    comfortable ride. I did briefly consider a pickup because if item
    number two. But after I looked at my Honda CRV, it checked off all the
    boxes and we have not regretted it yet. I can easily fit a decent size
    TV, a lawnmower, or such in the rear space.

    Speaking of Tequilla -- (I know that was the previous message, but Hey).

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Margarita Chicken
    Categories: Poultry, Barbecue
    Yield: 1 Servings

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    4 lg Breasts of chicken
    1/2 c Margarita mix
    Zest of 1 lime
    1/2 c Tequila
    1 md Lime

    Wash chicken and remove skin from meat. Pierce breasts several times
    with a fork and set aside. Grate the lime peel, using medium sized
    grater slots. (Grate only the green part of the lime's peel).
    Sprinkle the grated peel over the breasts. Place chicken in a larger
    bowl, and pour the mixture of tequila and margarita mix over the
    chicken; slice and squeeze the lime over the meat, and place lime
    slices in the bowl. Allow to marinate at least one hour. Remove
    chicken from marinade, pat dry, and grill over medium heat, until the
    chicken is done. Discard marinade prior to grilling. Baste chicken
    with fresh tequila and mix if desired.

    Submitted By EARL SHELSBY On 06-21-94 (0044)

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Dale Shipp on Wednesday, November 14, 2018 13:13:20
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    I own a pick-up truck. It's a Ford Ranger that stays parked most of
    the time. I have a need for its capabilities just often enough to
    justify the licence and insurance cost. But for the most part I druther drive my 4-door sedan .... it rides better, handles slick roads better, gets *much* better fuel mileage, and is overall more comfortable than
    the little Ranger.

    When I went shopping for my next car fifteen years ago, I had only a
    few factors on my mind. It should have four wheel drive so that it
    would be able to navigate in Maryland's snowy winters (which do not
    seem to be that prevalent anymore). It should have decent cargo space
    -- I was tired of trying to fit major appliances (TVs, Microwave, you
    name it) into the trunk or back seat of a sedan. And it should have a comfortable ride. I did briefly consider a pickup because if item
    number two. But after I looked at my Honda CRV, it checked off all the boxes and we have not regretted it yet. I can easily fit a decent size TV, a lawnmower, or such in the rear space.

    All decent reasons. You filled an actual need not made an "image"
    statement.

    The CRV I like best is called the Element .... which is no longer made.
    Like the Chevrolet HHR was built on the Cavalier/Cobalt platform the
    Element is a CRV at heart. Neither were available when you bought you
    bought your CRV.

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    Title: Cavalier Dressing
    Categories: Salads, Dressings, Cheese, Vegetables
    Yield: 1 Cup

    1 c Mayonnaise
    2 tb Bleu cheese; crumbled
    1 tb Catsup
    1 tb White vinegar
    1 sm Onion; peeled, chopped

    Put all of the ingredients in a blender container and
    blend until smooth. Allow to chill at least 30 minutes
    before serving.

    Makes 2 servings.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Dave Drum on Thursday, November 15, 2018 02:24:04
    On 11-14-18 12:13, Dave Drum <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Vehicle Trends <=-

    When I went shopping for my next car fifteen years ago, I had only a

    All decent reasons. You filled an actual need not made an "image" statement.

    The CRV I like best is called the Element .... which is no longer
    made. Like the Chevrolet HHR was built on the Cavalier/Cobalt platform
    the Element is a CRV at heart. Neither were available when you bought
    you bought your CRV.

    Actually it was just on the market when I bought our CRV. We looked at
    it. The design seemed to be targeted towards the California surfer bum.
    The interior was all plastic and you could hose it down to get all the
    sand out. The body design was very square, but they smothed it out and
    gave the vehicle more pleasing lines in later years.


    BTW, I just read today that Ford is going to stop manufacture and sales
    of all vehicles in the US except for crossovers and pickups.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Mexican Beef Bake
    Categories: Beef, Mexican, Casserole, Ground beef
    Yield: 1 Servings

    1 lb Lean ground beef
    2 tb Chili powder
    1 c Mild taco sauce
    1 c Grated Monterey Jack
    1/2 t salt
    1 c Tortilla chips
    1/2 c Sour cream
    1/4 c Sliced scallions
    1 c Pitted black olives, sliced
    4 oz Can chopped green chilies,
    -drained
    1 12 oz can whole kernel corn,
    -drained
    1 lg Tomato, chopped

    Heat oven 400 degrees. In 10-inch skillet over medium high heat, cook
    ground beef about 5 minutes until well browned. Stir in chili powder,
    cook 1 minute. Remove from heat, stir in taco sauce, green chilies
    and salt.

    In small bowl combine corn and half scallions.

    In 1 1/2 qt casserole layer half corn mixture, half beef mixture, half
    olives and half cheese. Repeat layering.

    Bake, covered 20 minutes until heated through cheese is melted.

    Garnish with tortilla chips, sour cream, tomato ad remaining scallions
    to serve.

    Makes 4 serving.
    From: Earl Shelsby Date: 09-26-94

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Dale Shipp on Thursday, November 15, 2018 08:16:33
    Dale Shipp wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    When I went shopping for my next car fifteen years ago, I had only a

    All decent reasons. You filled an actual need not made an "image" statement.

    The CRV I like best is called the Element .... which is no longer
    made. Like the Chevrolet HHR was built on the Cavalier/Cobalt platform
    the Element is a CRV at heart. Neither were available when you bought
    you bought your CRV.

    Actually it was just on the market when I bought our CRV. We looked at it. The design seemed to be targeted towards the California surfer
    bum. The interior was all plastic and you could hose it down to get all the sand out. The body design was very square, but they smothed it out and gave the vehicle more pleasing lines in later years.

    I always thought it was aimed at families with young children and at
    college kids. Hose out the jelly, spilled food and/or the results of
    "partying hearty" without ruining the carpets or upholstery.

    The two people I knew who owned them were quite pleased - even though
    they were well past young children and college parties.

    BTW, I just read today that Ford is going to stop manufacture and
    sales of all vehicles in the US except for crossovers and pickups.

    My information says they are keeping the iconic Mustang and a form of
    the Focus. All else is going to be trucks and SUVs - including a new
    take on the grandfather of Ford SUVs ... the Bronco.

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    Title: Wild Mustang Chilli
    Categories: Beef, Chilies, Herbs, Vegetables, Booze
    Yield: 8 Servings

    3 1/2 lb Rough ground chuck
    3 md Onions; chopped
    4 cl Garlic; minced
    3 oz Whiskey
    2 oz Rum
    1 tb Honey
    1 ts Nestle's cocoa powder
    4 tb Ground cumin
    1/2 ts Ground cloves
    1/2 ts Ground sage
    1 ts Salt; to taste
    Juice of 1 lemon
    5 Jalapenos; seeded, chopped
    1 ts Black pepper
    1 1/2 c Stewed, sliced tomatos
    2 c Tomato sauce
    1/2 c Tomato paste
    1/2 c Chopped bell pepper

    Saute the meat, onions and bell pepper together. Add
    this to the large cooking pot into which you have
    combined all the other ingredients. Bring to a boil
    for 2-3 minutes, reduce heat, and cook for 40 minutes.
    Be sure to stir frequently. Salt to taste. Raise heat
    to high and bring to a boil for 2 minutes.

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Carol Shenkenberger@1:275/100 to Dale Shipp on Sunday, November 18, 2018 12:32:35
    Re: Re: Vehicle Trends
    By: Dale Shipp to Dave Drum on Wed Nov 14 2018 12:28 am

    When I went shopping for my next car fifteen years ago, I had only a few factors on my mind. It should have four wheel drive so that it would be able to navigate in Maryland's snowy winters (which do not seem to be
    that prevalent anymore). It should have decent cargo space -- I was
    tired of trying to fit major appliances (TVs, Microwave, you name it)
    into the trunk or back seat of a sedan. And it should have a
    comfortable ride. I did briefly consider a pickup because if item
    number two. But after I looked at my Honda CRV, it checked off all the boxes and we have not regretted it yet. I can easily fit a decent size
    TV, a lawnmower, or such in the rear space.

    Same here. Not sure if I mentioned it but by old Nissan Maxima is on it's last legs and is about to be donated to charity. Good car but reached the point where repairs were more than a new one.

    Considerations in selection (no particular order really:
    - Higher as we have a lot of flood issues here
    - More storage, just like you
    - Easy to park (didnt want a full SUV)
    - Good gas milage

    Also, for the first time in my life (and only time), NEW but not too expensive.

    I got a Nissan Rouge but not with every frill. Has the side alerts and rear camera and your standard stuff. Bigger than the Maxima but not huge so parking isn't a pain. Getting a solid 26.6MPG city and the one time I took it to Richmond, was racking 43MPG (my driving is safe, sane, and has always lead to better MPG than rated). Example, the trip to Janis's place was just about 500 miles and I did it on 13gallons with the Maxima. No, they do not rate 38MPG.

    I really like how the back section works where you can raise a section to split the 'trunk' so sorting groceries is better.

    xxcarol
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