• 519 travel was crusty

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Tuesday, November 06, 2018 12:23:08
    Out of the USA. With the TSA, my record is far worse
    than hers.
    Might be TSA thinks you fit a certain "search me" profile that other countries are less paranoid about?

    Probably not. I've been investigated more than your
    average traveler and am pretty well documented. I
    attribute it partially to racism, but it may originally
    stem from this guy my sister used to go out with who
    became the CTO of one of the major security companies.
    After he and I had dinner (we discussed airport security
    and he paid) at Ten Penh (that had to be quite a while ago,
    as the restaurant closed in 2011), I started getting pulled
    over way more frequently - I figured I was a good guinea pig.

    A TSA agent said (in my earshot, to someone else) that the
    cards don't get read because they'd be way too easy to fake.
    I can see that, but if so, why bother issuing them? It's looking more

    To move the onus away from the physicians, who don't
    want conflict on their watch, but what happens
    elsewhere is not in their control, so they can wash
    their hands of it all.

    likely I'll be getting a new knee; the doctor wanted to try a nerve
    block (didn't work) and have an MRI done (will be, on Tuesday) first. He wants to rule out any other possible causes for the knee pain, ones that would not be improved if I had the replacement put in.

    Speaking of MRI, will your appliance be MRI-safe?
    Mine are, but I'm supposed to remind them beforehand
    so they can dial down the settings or something.

    They did have enough lighting to grow some plants, but overall,
    probably > not the kind of diet you would care for. Since they
    probably brought
    younger animals on board, less chance of them (animals) dying of old
    age > problems so meat was quite limited. Saw lots of huge clay jars
    and sacks > for storage of foodstuffs.
    Nobody brings up the issues of procreation, carnivory,
    and waste disposal. In my childhood view of the situation,
    none of these things happened, and when the ark landed,
    the herbivores had to be given a head start.
    I won't go into that here; it is skirting a bit too close to the echo
    rules. But, there was a lot more room on the Ark than people have
    presumed there was.

    You can be fairly sure that the moderator won't let
    the conversation get too close to that particular or
    any other bone, so don't worry.

    IOW, TBD at this stage of the game.
    By the lawyers rather than the scientists, I think.
    Whoever sues the loudest.
    Isn't that usually so?
    In the US. You might be surprised at what doesn't
    happen in more settled, perhaps civilized, countries.
    Civilisation being a relative term in some parts of the world? What you
    or I consider civilisation, some one else may or may not agree with. Nor
    we with their definition in some instances.

    One part of uncivilization is lots of litigation, and
    one part of civilization is that the lawyers don't get
    free rein.

    I can see why. When Robert was born, I flew from HI to AZ with 2 big suitcases full of nursery stuff--sheets, quilts, wall hanging, etc--
    and > clothes. Didn't come near to the 50 pound limit per bag. Came
    back to HI > with several pounds of Ghradelli dark chocolate from
    Trader Joe's, among > other goodies.
    Whose kid is Robert, remind me. My favorite from TJs
    Robert is our older daughter's (Rachel) first child. Hard to believe but
    he will be 15 at the end of this month.

    Thanks.

    was the Pound Plus, which last I checked (a long time
    ago) was sourced from Peters (a division of Nestle).
    That may have been what this was, so long ago and enough water over the
    dam that I've probably gotten it wrong originally.

    I believe that the supplier varies, but I do remember
    that it was identified as such at one time. There was
    also a monster bar (maybe 2 kg) that was available.

    Yeah, for me it's an issue of convenience and
    how much I want to stink up the neighborhood.
    Fish is definitely an eating out food.
    I'll cook fish from time to time but light a candle (usually vanilla scented) afterward. It does take the fish smell out of the air.
    Other > "stinky" foods get the same treatment.
    I'm too picky, I guess.
    Or too sensitive to certain smells. To that, we all are sensitive to
    smells, but differing ones.

    Probably we all have different sets of sensors, though
    I don't know anyone who lacks a fish sensor.

    one > blend, with a bit of a couple of individual powders
    added. > ML> I actually still like Gebhardt's if I can find it.
    Don't think I've seen it in a while.
    You can still get it - last time I was in Austin it
    was available in the supermarkets.
    Other than passing thru, I've not been in TX in years. We've gone thru
    it with the camper various times, staying at W-Ms or truck stops, but no
    long term "camping out".

    You're not missing all that much. Question - is the
    following recipe a calumny or not?

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    Title: Dallas Cowboy Tacos
    Categories: Appetizers, Pork, Cheese
    Yield: 3 servings

    1 Sausage (Medium Roll)
    1 c Velveeta Cheese
    1/2 c Onion (Chopped)
    2 cn Crescent Rolls

    Cook sausage over medium heat until well browned; drain. Stir in the
    onions and also brown. When completed, open can of rolls and stretch
    the dough until thin without splitting or tearing. In the wide part
    of the dough, add the sausage and onion mixture, put cheese on top of
    that. Then roll the dough as you would a regular cresent roll. Make
    sure you pinch all the open areas closed. Bake in preheated oven at
    375F for 10 to 12 minutes. Source unknown

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Wednesday, November 07, 2018 22:20:39
    Hi MIchael,

    Out of the USA. With the TSA, my record is far worse
    than hers.
    Might be TSA thinks you fit a certain "search me" profile that other countries are less paranoid about?

    Probably not. I've been investigated more than your
    average traveler and am pretty well documented. I
    attribute it partially to racism, but it may originally
    stem from this guy my sister used to go out with who
    became the CTO of one of the major security companies.
    After he and I had dinner (we discussed airport security
    and he paid) at Ten Penh (that had to be quite a while ago,
    as the restaurant closed in 2011), I started getting pulled
    over way more frequently - I figured I was a good guinea pig.

    OK, sounds about as logical as any reason. (G) Were you pulled over much
    before then? I've had it happen times for no apparant reason other than something looked a bit off on the X-ray; in one case it was my phone's
    charger stand that they couldn't figure out. I couldn't tell them what
    it was--they had to take me aside, wand me and go thru the carry on bag
    to find the "guilty" object.

    A TSA agent said (in my earshot, to someone else) that the
    cards don't get read because they'd be way too easy to fake.
    I can see that, but if so, why bother issuing them? It's looking
    more

    To move the onus away from the physicians, who don't
    want conflict on their watch, but what happens
    elsewhere is not in their control, so they can wash
    their hands of it all.

    I'm still keeping the card from Tripler, and will probably get another
    one if the knee replacement goes thru. I'm beginning to think that is
    more of a certainty now, than ever before.


    likely I'll be getting a new knee; the doctor wanted to try a nerve block (didn't work) and have an MRI done (will be, on Tuesday)
    first. He > wants to rule out any other possible causes for the knee
    pain, ones that > would not be improved if I had the replacement put
    in.

    Speaking of MRI, will your appliance be MRI-safe?
    Mine are, but I'm supposed to remind them beforehand
    so they can dial down the settings or something.

    I went thru it without problems yesterday. They knew I had implants, and
    where, but don't know if the machine was calibrated to consider them or
    not.

    They did have enough lighting to grow some plants, but
    overall, > ML> probably > not the kind of diet you would care for.
    Since they
    probably brought
    younger animals on board, less chance of them (animals) dying
    of old > ML> age > problems so meat was quite limited. Saw lots of
    huge clay jars > ML> and sacks > for storage of foodstuffs.
    Nobody brings up the issues of procreation, carnivory,
    and waste disposal. In my childhood view of the situation,
    none of these things happened, and when the ark landed,
    the herbivores had to be given a head start.
    I won't go into that here; it is skirting a bit too close to the
    echo > rules. But, there was a lot more room on the Ark than people
    have
    presumed there was.

    You can be fairly sure that the moderator won't let
    the conversation get too close to that particular or
    any other bone, so don't worry.

    As far as the animals go, most all of them were probably young, maybe
    juvenile so took up less space. Noah was also directed to take kinds,
    which developed into species afterward, so he didn't have to take
    poodles, dalmations, cocker spaniels, wolves, coyotes, etc but just the
    dog kind. That helped a lot with the amount of space needed.


    IOW, TBD at this stage of the game.
    By the lawyers rather than the scientists, I think.
    Whoever sues the loudest.
    Isn't that usually so?
    In the US. You might be surprised at what doesn't
    happen in more settled, perhaps civilized, countries.
    Civilisation being a relative term in some parts of the world? What
    you > or I consider civilisation, some one else may or may not agree
    with. Nor > we with their definition in some instances.

    One part of uncivilization is lots of litigation, and
    one part of civilization is that the lawyers don't get
    free rein.

    And in the end, nobody is fully satisfied.


    I can see why. When Robert was born, I flew from HI to AZ
    with 2 big > ML> > suitcases full of nursery stuff--sheets, quilts,
    wall hanging, etc-- > ML> and > clothes. Didn't come near to the 50
    pound limit per bag. Came > ML> back to HI > with several pounds of Ghradelli dark chocolate from > ML> Trader Joe's, among > other
    goodies.
    Whose kid is Robert, remind me. My favorite from TJs
    Robert is our older daughter's (Rachel) first child. Hard to believe
    but > he will be 15 at the end of this month.

    Thanks.

    was the Pound Plus, which last I checked (a long time
    ago) was sourced from Peters (a division of Nestle).
    That may have been what this was, so long ago and enough water over
    the > dam that I've probably gotten it wrong originally.

    I believe that the supplier varies, but I do remember
    that it was identified as such at one time. There was
    also a monster bar (maybe 2 kg) that was available.

    They had a 10 pound one available in milk or dark chocolate as I recall. Debated bringing one of those to HI but decided against it.


    vanilla > ML> > scented) afterward. It does take the fish smell out
    of the air. > ML> Other > "stinky" foods get the same treatment.
    I'm too picky, I guess.
    Or too sensitive to certain smells. To that, we all are sensitive to smells, but differing ones.

    Probably we all have different sets of sensors, though
    I don't know anyone who lacks a fish sensor.

    Some have a more acute sensor than others to specific smells.

    one > blend, with a bit of a couple of individual
    powders > ML> added. > ML> I actually still like Gebhardt's if I can find it. > ML> > Don't think I've seen it in a while.
    You can still get it - last time I was in Austin it
    was available in the supermarkets.
    Other than passing thru, I've not been in TX in years. We've gone
    thru > it with the camper various times, staying at W-Ms or truck
    stops, but no > long term "camping out".

    You're not missing all that much. Question - is the
    following recipe a calumny or not?

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.00

    Title: Dallas Cowboy Tacos
    Categories: Appetizers, Pork, Cheese
    Yield: 3 servings


    CONTINUED IN NEXT MESSAGE <<

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Wednesday, November 07, 2018 22:35:01
    HI MIchael,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<

    that. Then roll the dough as you would a regular cresent roll.
    Make sure you pinch all the open areas closed. Bake in preheated
    oven at
    375F for 10 to 12 minutes. Source unknown

    Probably plausable but not one I'd waste time or money for ingredients
    on. Velveeta doesn't rank on my cheese listing, and store bought
    crescent rolls leave a lot to be desired. OTOH, a non cook or beginning
    cook of little taste discrimination may find them easy to make and
    actually enjoy eating the end product.

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From Bill Swisher@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Tuesday, November 27, 2018 15:38:04
    Quoting Michael Loo to Ruth Haffly <=-

    Speaking of MRI, will your appliance be MRI-safe?
    Mine are, but I'm supposed to remind them beforehand
    so they can dial down the settings or something.

    Mine isn't. Maybe the new one will be. One of the Docs I saw recently groaned
    and mumbled because of the poor quality of the CT scan, and lack of a MRI. He was looking for all the missing discs in the lumbar region.

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Bill Swisher on Wednesday, November 28, 2018 13:07:02
    Bill Swisher wrote to Michael Loo <=-

    Speaking of MRI, will your appliance be MRI-safe?
    Mine are, but I'm supposed to remind them beforehand
    so they can dial down the settings or something.

    Mine isn't. Maybe the new one will be. One of the Docs I saw recently groaned and mumbled because of the poor quality of the CT scan, and
    lack of a MRI. He was looking for all the missing discs in the lumbar region.

    According to my croakers an MRI would leave me with a smoking hole in
    my upper-left chest where the pacemaker "used to be". They also predicted
    "lost of blood" and "some pain until you lose consciousness".

    We went with the CT scan that time and ultrasound other times. The first
    time they said I was getting an ultrasound I asked "I'm not pregnant, am
    I?" Bv)=

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    Title: Grapevine Smoked Chuck Roast
    Categories: Five, Beef, Bbq
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3 lb Chuck roast
    Garlic powder
    Salt and Pepper
    Grapevines for smoke

    After pruning the family's Concord grape vines, I
    decided to use a few trimmings to make grapevine smoked
    chuck roast on my gas grill. I'd never used grapevines
    to smoke food before, so it was the perfect opportunity
    to experiment with this new smoking wood.

    I decided to use a chuck roast for two reasons. First,
    it was a relatively inexpensive cut of meat. If the
    grapevine smoke ruined the meat, the loss wouldn't be
    that great. And second, beef chuck contains quite a bit
    of fat and connective tissue, which adds to juiciness
    and flavor. And I like juice and flavor!

    Season the roast lightly on all sides with the salt,
    pepper and garlic powder. Cover it and let it set at
    room temp. Set up your grill for smoking, heating it
    to 250°F/120°C. The pieces of grapevine can be wrapped
    in a foil pouch, or put in a bread pan covered with
    foil, and placed over one of the burners set on high.

    When the grapevines begin to smoke, turn the burner
    under the grapevines down to medium, then pop the
    chuck roast into the grill and close 'er up. After
    one and one-half hours at 250°F/120°C, wrap the roast
    in a double layer of aluminum foil and place it back
    in the grill. Increase the grill temperature to 350°F/
    175°C degrees and continue cooking for another 1 1/2
    hours.

    Remove the grapevine smoked chuck roast and let it
    rest, still wrapped in foil, for 20 to 30 minutes.
    After the rest, it can be sliced for great tasting
    sandwiches. A little homemade barbecue sauce would
    be a nice finishing touch.

    From: http://www.smoker-cooking.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

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