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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Sunday, November 04, 2018 09:40:08
    Mushrooms tend to grow in stands. Look for
    little teeth peeking up among the moss and
    then come back a year or two later.
    This one grows on trees. OTOH, we had a lot of moss in our front
    yard up
    Hericium, as I recall, starts under moss on trunks
    and then busts out after compromising the bark.
    This was more on the ground type moss, very little on the trees.

    Hericium doesn't as I recall grow except where it can hang;
    I've seen it on trees and once or twice on the side of a
    bank (probably where there was a lot of wood to feed on).

    If it's any incentive to your adventurousness, it is
    said that no poisonous species grow on trunks, though
    some are found on roots.
    We've had several trees taken down in the last few years--no signs of
    any sort of fungi on them however.

    It can take a while, except for the shelf fungi, which
    grow pretty soon. Also, there may be seeding after the
    logs have been cut and stacked.

    You might get lucky and find that the compost has
    been somehow seeded with spores.
    Time will tell; this is compost from our own grass clippings, kitchen
    waste, etc. We keep a (covered) bucket in the kitchen for such stuff,
    dump it into a larger composter when full and let it degrade into
    compost. Got a couple of them going but the yard needs all the natural
    help we can give it.

    Might do an experiment and put out some edible
    mushrooms from the store that have gone old. Maybe
    the spores will take, though I am not sure if they
    can be propagated from what you get in the package.

    I don't try to grow them; it's a job left best to those with some experience in the field.
    Most jobs do best with experience. It never ceases to
    amuse but irritate me that many postings for jobs for
    young people that you might think of as entry level
    claim that experience is required. So how does one
    get experience?
    I know; that's been a sticking point for years. I could get a job sewing
    in a factory but it's piecework and I wouldn't have the creative outlet.
    But, I do have sewing experience. (G)

    So that's not exactly an analogous situation.

    It's Big Brother government again.
    In this case it's more Big Law - and a situation where
    government oversight would be the only effective solution.
    But doing a massive recall for what may be a minor issue? Swatting a fly
    with a cannon?

    Hard to say. The recall (of certain stocks of
    valsartan) has been mandated in a number of
    countries, all the EU, and some in Asia. Where
    Big Law comes in, and where Big Government has
    nothing to do with it, has been the large pharmacy
    chains' refusing to carry any valsartan products,
    a way larger scope than what the FDA has mandated.
    It's not completely malignant or completely
    irrational. The companies would face a huge number
    of lawsuits from anyone who took the drug and later
    got cancer, whether there was a credible connection
    or not - that's just the way things are these days.

    I'm not on it 24/7, have enough other things to keep me busy. I'm in
    the > process of making a baby quilt (deadline Nov.8) and a number of other
    Whose baby?
    One of the families in our church. They decided on not finding out the
    gender of this one so the quilt is in greens, yellows and whites, both
    prints and solids, all flannel.

    You could make two and save the inapplicable one
    for someone else later.

    week--took > the lamb shanks recipe we usually use and cooked a butterflied, boneless > leg of lamb the same way. Also made a pumpkin roll for Steve's birthday. > That's just part of my other than
    computer life. (G)
    I'm guessing you cooked the shanks longer than the
    leg. Glenys (one of the protagonists in my recent
    Actually, they both cooked in about the same length of time. Thought the
    leg would take longer as it was rolled and tied but it was done faster
    than I expected.

    Huh - I would have expected the leg to have
    cooked in less time, even though it was bigger.

    travelogue) did us lamb shanks that were rather
    resilient, being done with dry heat and for a
    relatively short time (both Lilli and I have a
    reputation for underdone meat).
    We braise ours--marinade in Itailan dressing for a day or so, coat with
    a mix of flour, cheese and herbs, then brown, add a bit of liquid and
    cook. We use a cast iron dutch oven for cooking it.

    That's different (obviously) in several ways from the
    ways I do lamb.

    average build and > had lost strength as he aged so to get Mom up, he called either my
    brother or the town rescue squad, sometimes both.
    Happens, and it's understandable. In the last
    couple weeks I have gained a new appreciation
    for inclined planes; also for professional
    caregivers, who have to be stronger than the
    average bear.
    True, when a person is almost dead weight, it's hard for the untrained
    person to handle. Caregivers know how to properly lift, etc but still
    need a lot of strength to do so without hurting themselves. Not a job I
    could handle.

    People have noted my increase in upper body strength
    between before and after this trip.

    Happy and healthy go well together.
    I'll take the former first, but the latter is
    certainly a good second choice.
    I'll try for a good balance of both.

    We don't generally have much of a choice.

    Title: Perfect Chocolate Curls
    FROM: Shelley Rodgers (Jolly Rodgers:the Portuguese Pirate!
    Another name I've not seen in years, knew her from the Crafting echo.

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    Title: Breakfast Pizza
    Categories: Breakfast, Italian, Pizza
    Yield: 6 servings

    8 oz Mozzarella Cheese, grated 1/4 md Onion, chopped
    6 Eggs 3/4 md Onion, from above,
    ringed
    1 1/2 c Milk and/or cream 1 md Green pepper, ringed
    Salt and Pepper, to taste 1 Pizza crust

    Prepare your favorite pizza crust and get ready to bake, as a regular
    pizza. Make sure that you have a fairly high ridge, as the there is a
    lot
    of mixture, and it is fairly watery. Pugliese bread dough works very well
    for a crust.

    Beat eggs lightly. Add cheese, onion and salt and pepper. Mix gently.

    Lightly brush olive oil over the pizza base. Pour mixture over the
    crust.
    Place rings of green pepper over the top. You can also include onion
    rings, mushrooms, or other favorite Pizza toppings. Color contrast helps
    here, as the mixture is rather plain looking.

    Bake at 450 degrees for about 15-20 mins, or when crust is brown and egg
    mixture is set.

    I got the recipe from a TV show about how to make Pizzas, on PBS. People
    that won't eat Pizza or Eggs with even go for this!

    From Dan Ceppa

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Sunday, November 04, 2018 21:34:39
    Hi Michael,

    then come back a year or two later.
    This one grows on trees. OTOH, we had a lot of moss in our
    front > ML> yard up
    Hericium, as I recall, starts under moss on trunks
    and then busts out after compromising the bark.
    This was more on the ground type moss, very little on the trees.

    Hericium doesn't as I recall grow except where it can hang;
    I've seen it on trees and once or twice on the side of a
    bank (probably where there was a lot of wood to feed on).

    Is that what is commonly called Spanish moss? The stuff I'm talking
    about, on the ground, is the garden variety green stuff.


    If it's any incentive to your adventurousness, it is
    said that no poisonous species grow on trunks, though
    some are found on roots.
    We've had several trees taken down in the last few years--no signs
    of > any sort of fungi on them however.

    It can take a while, except for the shelf fungi, which
    grow pretty soon. Also, there may be seeding after the
    logs have been cut and stacked.

    The logs were either taken away (most of them) or run thru a chipper and
    are in a big pile in our back yard, composting. We've (and our
    neighbors) take from this pile for mulch/ground cover for bushes, flower
    beds, etc but not noticed any fungi yet.

    You might get lucky and find that the compost has
    been somehow seeded with spores.
    Time will tell; this is compost from our own grass clippings,
    kitchen > waste, etc. We keep a (covered) bucket in the kitchen for
    such stuff, > dump it into a larger composter when full and let it
    degrade into
    compost. Got a couple of them going but the yard needs all the
    natural > help we can give it.

    Might do an experiment and put out some edible
    mushrooms from the store that have gone old. Maybe
    the spores will take, though I am not sure if they
    can be propagated from what you get in the package.

    I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to propagate.


    I don't try to grow them; it's a job left best to those with
    some > ML> > experience in the field.
    Most jobs do best with experience. It never ceases to
    amuse but irritate me that many postings for jobs for
    young people that you might think of as entry level
    claim that experience is required. So how does one
    get experience?
    I know; that's been a sticking point for years. I could get a job
    sewing > in a factory but it's piecework and I wouldn't have the
    creative outlet. > But, I do have sewing experience. (G)

    So that's not exactly an analogous situation.

    No, not really.

    It's Big Brother government again.
    In this case it's more Big Law - and a situation where
    government oversight would be the only effective solution.
    But doing a massive recall for what may be a minor issue? Swatting a
    fly > with a cannon?

    Hard to say. The recall (of certain stocks of
    valsartan) has been mandated in a number of
    countries, all the EU, and some in Asia. Where
    Big Law comes in, and where Big Government has
    nothing to do with it, has been the large pharmacy
    chains' refusing to carry any valsartan products,
    a way larger scope than what the FDA has mandated.
    It's not completely malignant or completely
    irrational. The companies would face a huge number
    of lawsuits from anyone who took the drug and later
    got cancer, whether there was a credible connection
    or not - that's just the way things are these days.

    But, I guess Express Scripts dodged the bullet with their suppliers.

    I'm not on it 24/7, have enough other things to keep me busy.
    I'm in > ML> the > process of making a baby quilt (deadline Nov.8)
    and a number of > ML> other
    Whose baby?
    One of the families in our church. They decided on not finding out
    the > gender of this one so the quilt is in greens, yellows and
    whites, both > prints and solids, all flannel.

    You could make two and save the inapplicable one
    for someone else later.

    Could, but the shower is this week, baby isn't due until next month. I'm
    using up odds and ends of fabric for this one, will be making another
    gender neutral one around the end of January for a family due in March.
    Only other one that I know I have to make, she's not 100% sure, but will confirm as time gets closer, the gender, so will make a specific one for
    that. It's all fun.


    week--took > the lamb shanks recipe we usually use and cooked a butterflied, boneless > leg of lamb the same way. Also made a
    pumpkin > ML> roll for Steve's birthday. > That's just part of my
    other than
    computer life. (G)
    I'm guessing you cooked the shanks longer than the
    leg. Glenys (one of the protagonists in my recent
    Actually, they both cooked in about the same length of time. Thought
    the > leg would take longer as it was rolled and tied but it was done faster > than I expected.

    Huh - I would have expected the leg to have
    cooked in less time, even though it was bigger.

    It may have but we didn't check it for a while, just turned it about
    every half hour or so.


    travelogue) did us lamb shanks that were rather
    resilient, being done with dry heat and for a
    relatively short time (both Lilli and I have a
    reputation for underdone meat).
    We braise ours--marinade in Itailan dressing for a day or so, coat
    with > a mix of flour, cheese and herbs, then brown, add a bit of
    liquid and > cook. We use a cast iron dutch oven for cooking it.

    That's different (obviously) in several ways from the
    ways I do lamb.

    It's one of our favorite ways for big pieces. We'll broil, or grill,
    lamb chops.


    average build and > had lost strength as he aged so to get Mom
    up, he > ML> called either my
    brother or the town rescue squad, sometimes both.
    Happens, and it's understandable. In the last
    couple weeks I have gained a new appreciation
    for inclined planes; also for professional
    caregivers, who have to be stronger than the
    average bear.
    True, when a person is almost dead weight, it's hard for the
    untrained > person to handle. Caregivers know how to properly lift,
    etc but still > need a lot of strength to do so without hurting themselves. Not a job I > could handle.

    People have noted my increase in upper body strength
    between before and after this trip.

    Will it be sustained?


    Happy and healthy go well together.
    I'll take the former first, but the latter is
    certainly a good second choice.
    I'll try for a good balance of both.

    We don't generally have much of a choice.

    No, not usually.

    Title: Perfect Chocolate Curls
    FROM: Shelley Rodgers (Jolly Rodgers:the Portuguese
    Pirate! > Another name I've not seen in years, knew her from the
    Crafting echo.


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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Sunday, November 04, 2018 21:46:40
    Hi Michael,

    CONTINUED FROM PREVIOUS MESSAGE <<


    ---------- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.01

    Title: Breakfast Pizza
    Categories: Breakfast, Italian, Pizza
    Yield: 6 servings

    8 oz Mozzarella Cheese, grated 1/4 md Onion, chopped
    6 Eggs 3/4 md Onion, from above, ringed
    1 1/2 c Milk and/or cream 1 md Green pepper,
    ringed Salt and Pepper, to taste 1 Pizza crust

    Prepare your favorite pizza crust and get ready to bake, as a
    regular pizza. Make sure that you have a fairly high ridge, as the there is a lot
    of mixture, and it is fairly watery. Pugliese bread dough works very well for a crust.

    Beat eggs lightly. Add cheese, onion and salt and pepper. Mix
    gently.

    Lightly brush olive oil over the pizza base. Pour mixture over the crust.
    Place rings of green pepper over the top. You can also include
    onion rings, mushrooms, or other favorite Pizza toppings. Color contrast helps here, as the mixture is rather plain looking.

    Bake at 450 degrees for about 15-20 mins, or when crust is brown and
    egg mixture is set.

    I got the recipe from a TV show about how to make Pizzas, on PBS.
    People that won't eat Pizza or Eggs with even go for this!

    From Dan Ceppa

    Looks sort of like a quiche on a pizza pan. (G)

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Thursday, November 08, 2018 00:12:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Ruth Haffly on 11-04-18 09:40 <=-

    average build and had lost strength as he aged so to get Mom up, he called either my brother or the town rescue squad, sometimes both.
    Happens, and it's understandable. In the last
    couple weeks I have gained a new appreciation
    for inclined planes; also for professional
    caregivers, who have to be stronger than the
    average bear.
    True, when a person is almost dead weight, it's hard for the untrained person to handle. Caregivers know how to properly lift, etc but still
    need a lot of strength to do so without hurting themselves. Not a job I could handle.
    People have noted my increase in upper body strength
    between before and after this trip.

    Not a bad thing to have gained... As I noted to Ruth, I learned some of
    the tricks of the trade to deal with that sort of situation, that didn't require strength or actual lifting... which was fortunate, given my
    weight lifting restrictions.... and particularly when I couldn't brace
    myself as well, shortly after breaking my ankle, whilst it was still
    healing... But I could turn MJ, or boost her, as necessary, in her bed,
    without other assistance....

    Happy and healthy go well together.
    I'll take the former first, but the latter is
    certainly a good second choice.
    I'll try for a good balance of both.

    We don't generally have much of a choice.

    Title: Perfect Chocolate Curls
    FROM: Shelley Rodgers (Jolly Rodgers:the Portuguese Pirate!
    Another name I've not seen in years, knew her from the Crafting echo.

    Title: Breakfast Pizza
    From Dan Ceppa

    And yet another.... whom I knew from BlueWave... and he invited me to be
    one of the token females in the DADS echo.... :) (xxCarol was the other)

    ttyl neb

    ... Arctic char makes better salmon salad sandwiches than salmon.

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