• 424 Oktoberfest

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to ALL on Sunday, October 14, 2018 11:53:18
    I had high hopes for Cambridge Oktoberfest, but it turned out
    overcast, smaller than advertised, and kind of boring. A lot
    of places were selling Blue Moon, that's the sort of event it
    was. I found a food truck called Travelin' Bones, but they
    wouldn't make me a fatty brisket sandwich, so it was clear
    that the stuff had been preprepared and reheated, so off I
    went, with a smile at the staff that must have looked like
    a grimace. They could have had my $12 for trimmings that
    would have been thrown away, but too bad. Charlie's Kitchen
    had a Biergarten out back but was advertising Sam seasonal
    (not bad but not worth the detour) and the ubiquitous Blue
    Moon. Down the way, there's the Red House, an upscale place
    run by Charlie's, which offers 50c oysters (minimum order 6,
    maximum order 12) but makes up for it with pretty wild wine
    and beer prices. We walked past and checked out the other
    stands on the street, which offered mostly irrelevancies and
    overpriced stuff - $2 oysters on the main drag when they were
    50c on the side street? Beers (a limited selection including
    Blue Moon) for restaurant prices? I think not. We decided that
    the whole thing was a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and
    fury, signifying nothing. So we ended up at an old haunt, the
    Russell House Tavern, formerly Z-Square and next door to where
    the Wursthaus (a really old haunt) used to be. Bar seating was
    at a premium and extremely noisy because of the parade outside,
    so we took the treacherous steps to the downstairs bar, where
    we were served(?) by an extremely taciturn young man who
    reminded me of my brother.

    The beer list is impressive, but a couple of inquiries yielded
    "oh, we're out of that." sort of offputting, but we were here,
    and generally we like the place, so I got a Lamplighter Werewolves
    of Cambridge porter, which was excessively bitter and excessively
    alcoholed (7.3%) - I don't know why these lower-hopped styles have
    been amped up in recent years. Instead of food, I got a second
    beer, this one a harmless Von Trapp golden helles lager.

    Bonnie had a plate of duck hash (duck "confit" with crispy potatoes
    and two eggs over easy) with a bloody Mary which came with a celery
    stalk the size of, well, very big, threatening to tip over the
    glass. People have no idea what duck confit is. This was the normal
    thing, leg meat rubbed half-heartedly with salt and cooked who
    knows how. In reality, you need to pack the meat in seasoned salt
    for a good long time, shake off the excess, and then cook it for a
    good long time in barely bubbling rendered fat, preferably duck,
    until it's got this wonderful texture (this is a precursor of sorts
    to sous vide cookery). Well, this stuff was monochromatic and
    lacked the wonderfulness of texture. Tasted like not much either.
    The potatoes varied between crisp and not crisp. The fatal flaw was
    the absence of onions and the dearth of pepper. The eggs were over
    medium. At least the bloody was okay.

    There was something lacking about my experience, so I ordered a
    croissant bread pudding with candied pecans and butter pecan ice
    cream; 15 minutes later the welcome news "they're still working on
    it." I was all for walking out, but Bonnie pointed out that there
    was nowhere we had to be, as the music library didn't close until
    10 pm, and we'd been prepared to waste this time at Oktoberfest
    if it had been any good. So we waited another 10 minutes, and the
    stuff might have been made from scratch, but not with croissants.
    What I'd have done if they were out of bread pudding, and what
    they probably did, was scrunched up whatever rolls were around,
    soaked them in sugared bread and milk, and zapped the mess for a
    couple minutes. Trim the edges square, strew some candied pecans on
    top, and put a smallish scoop of quite good ice cream beside. $8.

    When we finally got out of there, it was on the verge of a downpour,
    so we gave up on the music library and hoofed it straight back to
    the house. Good thing - five minutes after we got inside, it started
    to rain.
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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Sunday, October 14, 2018 22:40:00

    Quoting Michael Loo to All <=-

    Cambridge Oktoberfest / A lot of places were selling Blue Moon,
    that's the sort of event it was.

    I was not familiar with Blue moon and had to wiki it. That is just
    so wrong on so many different levels!

    More gin and vermouth drinks that aren't quite martinis...

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    Title: Delmonico
    Categories: Beverages, Alcohol
    Yield: 1 serving

    3/4 fl Gin
    1/2 fl Dry vermouth
    1/2 fl Sweet vermouth
    1/2 fl Brandy

    Stir with ice and strain into a cocktail glass. Garnish with a twist
    of lemon peel.

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    Title: English Rose Cocktail
    Categories: Beverages, Alcohol
    Yield: 1 serving

    1/2 oz Apricot flavored brandy
    1/2 oz Dry vermouth
    1 oz Dry gin
    1/2 ts Lemon juice
    1 ts Grenadine

    Shake well with cracked ice and strain into 3 oz. cocktail glass.
    Frost edge of glass by rubbing with lemon and dipping in powdered
    sugar.

    From: Dorothy Flatman

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    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to JIM WELLER on Monday, October 15, 2018 06:47:05
    JIM WELLER wrote to MICHAEL LOO <=-

    Cambridge Oktoberfest / A lot of places were selling Blue Moon,
    that's the sort of event it was.

    I was not familiar with Blue moon and had to wiki it. That is just
    so wrong on so many different levels!

    I am not much of a drinker on any level these days. The last brewskis I
    have had were a Smithwicks (which I shared with Nancy) and an Abita
    Amber - both at the 2017 picnic at the Shipps.

    I have a monthly UniX computer group meeting at which we sometimes talk
    about computer stuff. Amid consuming pizza and beverages. One of the
    regulars used to do Guiness Stout but has switched to Blue Moon for the
    last few meetings. It's served with a wedge of orange in the glass.
    FEH!!! I'll likely never try it - no matter the label is nice and it
    is gaining in popularity.

    I equate it with Corona and/or Zima (a product of Miller/Coors) and,
    indeed, any "adult" beverage which needs to be "enhanced" in order to
    have flavour. If I want lemonade or orange juice I'll order that instead
    of a brewski.

    Since this recipe claims to be Belgian should one use a Belgian Wheat
    Beer?

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    Title: Carbonnade (Belgian Beer Stew)
    Categories: Beef, Pork, Stews, Beer, Booze
    Yield: 8 Servings

    3 lb Chuck roast
    1 Smoked ham hock
    1/2 c Oil
    2 1/2 ts Salt
    1 lg Onion; thin sliced
    3 tb Flour
    Beer
    1 c Beef broth
    1/2 ts Black pepper
    2 ts Sugar
    2 tb Parsley flakes
    pn Marjoram
    pn Thyme
    1 cl Garlic; chopped fine
    4 lg Carrots; in 1" pieces
    3/4 c Walnuts; opt
    2 tb Red wine vinegar; or red
    - wine
    2 tb Scotch whiskey

    Cut beef into 1" x 2" strips. (I cube them, 1") Remove
    ham from bone and cut into cubes. Brown beef and ham in
    oil in large skillet. Lift meat out, sprinkle with 1 ts
    salt and set aside. Brown onions in same oil. Set aside.
    Drain and save all but 3 Tb oil. Sift flour into oil and
    cook to light brown roux. Gradually add 1 1/2 cup beef,
    stirring until mixture boils.

    Add broth, rest of salt, pepper, sugar, herbs and garlic.
    Alternate layers of meat, onions and carrots in large
    casserole. Add sauce and enough beer to cover meat.

    Cover and cook in 300°F/150°C oven for 2 1/2 hours.
    Check occassionaly and add beer if needed.

    Shortly before stew is ready, saute walnuts in reserved
    oil. It takes only a couple of minutes to get them crisp.
    Do NOT scorch. Add them to stew.

    Just before serving, add vinegar and scotch.

    Recipe by: Ana Kurland

    Recipe from: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DAVE DRUM on Tuesday, October 16, 2018 22:38:00

    Quoting Dave Drum to Jim Weller <=-

    Blue Moon / served with a wedge of orange in the glass. FEH!!!

    Actually Blue Moon is brewed just like a Dutch or Belgian Witbier,
    with orange peel and coriander in it. They are often served in
    Europe with an orange wedge on the rim to enhance the subtle orange
    flavour in the brew.

    Similarly German Weissbier which doesn't actually have citrus fruit
    in it does have a citrusy nose and is often served with a lemon
    wedge for the same reason.

    I equate it with Corona

    And lime adds pleasant acidity and balance to any malty sweet, low
    hopped light lager, not just Corona, the makers of which made the
    concept popular.

    and/or Zima

    That died a merciful death over a decade ago.

    Since this recipe claims to be Belgian should one use a Belgian
    Wheat Beer?

    Ideally yes, a Labric or a sour brown beer. (And some famous Lambics
    have cherries in them.)

    Title: Carbonnade (Belgian Beer Stew)
    Beer
    2 tb Red wine vinegar; or red wine
    2 tb Scotch whiskey

    She didn't specify what kind of beer but if you went with sour
    Lambic or old brown beer you wouldn't need any vinegar. Because it's
    more readily available and affordable I'd go with a domestic porter
    with a dash of vinegar or perhaps lemon juice.

    Adding whisky of any kind is certainly not traditional at all.



    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Jim Weller on Thursday, October 18, 2018 00:35:00
    On 10-16-18 22:38, Jim Weller <=-
    spoke to Dave Drum about 424 Oktoberfest <=-

    Blue Moon / served with a wedge of orange in the glass. FEH!!!

    Actually Blue Moon is brewed just like a Dutch or Belgian Witbier,
    with orange peel and coriander in it. They are often served in
    Europe with an orange wedge on the rim to enhance the subtle orange flavour in the brew.

    Personally, I cannot stand beers with added citrus flavor. I like beer
    to taste like beer -- not like a shandy.


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    Title: Lemon Chicken
    Categories: Chicken
    Yield: 1 Servings

    1/2 c White wine
    1/8 c Chicken stock
    2 tb Light soy sauce
    2 tb Sugar
    1 Clove garlic, minced
    3 tb Rice wine vinegar
    1 tb Ginger, minced
    1 Lemon's juice (save the
    Squeezed lemon halves)
    Salt (to taste)
    Pepper (to taste)
    1/4 c Peanut oil
    4 lg Skinless chicken breasts
    1 Egg, beaten
    Flour
    1 tb Cornstarch
    1/4 c Water

    In a mixing bowl, mix the wine, chicken stock, soy sauce, sugar,
    garlic, vinegar, ginger, lemon juice, salt, and pepper.

    Between 2 sheets of plastic wrap or wax paper, place the chicken
    breasts and beat with flat mallet until thickness is uniform, about
    1/4-inch. Marinate in the wine mixture for 10 to 15 minutes.

    In a wok, heat the peanut oil to about 300 degree F.

    Remove the chicken breasts from the marinade and pat dry. Dip the
    breasts in the beaten egg and coat uniformly with the flour, shake off
    any excess flour. Add to wok, oil should be smoking. Move the
    breasts around vigorously and turn several times. Cook until golden
    brown. Remove the chicken from the wok and place on paper towels to
    drain.

    Add the marinade to the wok, add additional wine or water if
    necessary, and add the reserved lemon halves face down. Cover and
    simmer for 4 to 5 minutes.

    In a small bowl or measuring cup, mix the cornstarch with the water.
    Add the cornstarch mixture slowly to the wok, just enough to thicken
    mixture and form a sauce. Remove and discard lemon halves.

    Chop the chicken breasts diagonally or slice and cover with the sauce.
    Serve with rice and stir-fried vegetables.

    Recipe: Tom Morphew on AT&T's Interchange

    From: David Pileggi Date: 07-19
    Cooking �

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to Dale Shipp on Thursday, October 18, 2018 06:58:03
    Dale Shipp wrote to Jim Weller <=-

    Blue Moon / served with a wedge of orange in the glass. FEH!!!

    Actually Blue Moon is brewed just like a Dutch or Belgian Witbier,
    with orange peel and coriander in it. They are often served in
    Europe with an orange wedge on the rim to enhance the subtle orange flavour in the brew.

    Personally, I cannot stand beers with added citrus flavor. I like
    beer to taste like beer -- not like a shandy.

    The only beer I have tasted that has flavourants added that I have even
    thought of repeating is (as I told Nanook) Leinenkugel's Honey Weiss.
    And one is plenty for me for a long spell. I brought some to one of the
    picnics at your house for folks to try. I believe that Glen Jamieson
    pronounced it "interesting" and had another. Followed by an Amber Bock.

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    Title: The 5000 Calorie Deep Fried Burger
    Categories: Beef, Pork, Cheese, Breads
    Yield: 1 Serving

    14 oz Burger patty; made w/ground
    - beef tenderloin
    3 Beer-battered onion rings
    4 sl Thick cut bacon
    3 sl Cheddar cheese
    1 Homemade milk bun
    2 c Beer batter
    5 (to 8) wood skewers to hold
    - it all together

    Don't eat anything for about 1 day prior

    Grill off hamburger to rare

    Fry onion rings and bacon

    Layer slice of cheddar, bacon, slice of cheddar, onion
    rings, slice of cheddar on top of burger and briefly place
    in 500�F/260�C oven to melt together.

    Place your heart healthy burger stack inside your homemade
    milk bun, press together, and skewer with your wooden
    skewers.

    Dust well with flour and dip in bear batter, spooning the
    batter into all crevices.

    Drop burger into deep fry basket. If you made your burger
    right, it will be too tall for the oil to actually cover
    completely. Carefully ladle hot oil from the fryer over the
    top of the burger to compensate.

    Cook until golden brown.

    Remove from fryer, let rest for about 2-3 minutes, and cut
    in half with a serrated knife.

    Serve with lettuce, tomato, onion and horseradish remoulade.

    After eating, call your cardiologist, tell him what you've
    done, and sit in amusement as he has a heart attack for you
    over the phone.

    DISCLAIMER: Following this recipe and consuming the finished
    product may be hazardous to your health. Eating The Deep
    Fried Hamburger may cause acne, sour stomach, huge butt
    syndrome, or sudden and unexpected cardiac arrest. Eating
    the whole thing in one sitting will make you a true American
    Hero.

    From: http://www.grouprecipes.com

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  • From Dave Drum@1:18/200 to JIM WELLER on Thursday, October 18, 2018 07:01:46
    JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    Blue Moon / served with a wedge of orange in the glass. FEH!!!

    Actually Blue Moon is brewed just like a Dutch or Belgian Witbier,
    with orange peel and coriander in it. They are often served in
    Europe with an orange wedge on the rim to enhance the subtle orange flavour in the brew.

    Similarly German Weissbier which doesn't actually have citrus fruit
    in it does have a citrusy nose and is often served with a lemon
    wedge for the same reason.

    I like Leinenkugel's Honey Weiss but not their Berry Weiss. Leinie's
    is the only Honey Weiss that I have found that I like as the honey is
    just a hint. Other labels' honey weiss hits the honey jug too hard for
    my taste .... and I dislike it for the same reason I dislike Budweiser
    - too sweet.

    I equate it with Corona

    And lime adds pleasant acidity and balance to any malty sweet, low
    hopped light lager, not just Corona, the makers of which made the
    concept popular.

    Did you ever work in a P.R. position? Those comments sound an awful like
    the marketroid-speak one would find in a manufacturer's web-site from a
    flack putting the company "spin" on things.

    and/or Zima

    That died a merciful death over a decade ago.

    In North America - it's quite popular in Japan.

    Brace yourself .... from an article in Beer Street Journal "Get ready
    to drink like it's the 90's (again) Zima is returning to shelves"

    http://beerstreetjournal.com/get-ready-drink-like-90s-zima-set-return/

    It is, after all, a Molson/Miller/Coors brand. They have never let good
    taste stand in the way of profit. Jolly Ranchers candy NOT included.

    Since this recipe claims to be Belgian should one use a Belgian
    Wheat Beer?

    Ideally yes, a Labric or a sour brown beer. (And some famous Lambics
    have cherries in them.)

    Title: Carbonnade (Belgian Beer Stew)
    Beer
    2 tb Red wine vinegar; or red wine
    2 tb Scotch whiskey

    She didn't specify what kind of beer but if you went with sour
    Lambic or old brown beer you wouldn't need any vinegar. Because it's
    more readily available and affordable I'd go with a domestic porter
    with a dash of vinegar or perhaps lemon juice.

    Adding whisky of any kind is certainly not traditional at all.

    I not that whisky is mis-spelled in the recipe as presented.

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    Title: Chilli-Beer Brisket of Beef Over Wild Rice Amandine
    Categories: Beef, Beer, Sauces, Rice, Nuts
    Yield: 8 Servings

    2 1/2 lb Fresh beef brisket
    1/2 c Diced onion
    1 ts (ea) salt & black pepper
    1/4 ts Garlic powder
    12 oz Bottle Heinz chilli sauce
    12 oz Beer; NOT LITE

    MMMMM---------------------WILD RICE AMANDINE--------------------------
    2 tb Slivered almonds
    1 1/2 tb Chopped bell pepper
    1 tb Chopped onion
    1 tb Chopped chives
    1/3 c Butter
    2 2/3 c Hot water
    1 ts Instant beef bouillon
    9 oz (2 boxes) Uncle Ben's 5
    - minute Wild Rice

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    Wild Rice Amadine
    2 md Ripe tomatoes; sliced,
    - garnish
    Parsley sprigs; garnish

    Place beef brisket, fat side down, in deep roasting pan.
    Sprinkle brisket with onion, salt, pepper and garlic
    powder. Pour chilli sauce over brisket.

    Cover tightly and cook in slow oven (325°F/163°C) for 3
    hours.

    Increase oven temperature to moderate (350°F/175°C). Pour
    beer over brisket. Cover and continue cooking for 30
    minutes.

    WHILE BRISKET COOKS MAKE THE WILD RICE: Cook almonds,
    green pepper, onion and chives in melted butter in heavy
    2-quart frying-pan, until almonds begin to brown. (Do not
    over brown.)

    Add 2 2/3 cups hot water and instant bouillon, stirring to
    combine. Add rice, bring to a boil, cook slowly, uncovered
    10 minutes. Cover and let stand 5 minutes. Drain any
    excess liquid from rice.

    TO SERVE: Place brisket on large serving platter and
    surround with Wild Rice Amadine. Garnish with sliced
    tomatoes and parsley. Slice brisket very thin and serve
    with hot cooking liquid.

    Makes 8 servings

    Source: Leanda Goss

    From: http://www.recipelink.com

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Sunday, October 21, 2018 20:44:00

    Quoting Dale Shipp to Jim Weller <=-

    Blue Moon / served with a wedge of orange in the glass. FEH!!!

    Actually Blue Moon is brewed just like a Dutch or Belgian Witbier,
    with orange peel and coriander in it. They are often served in
    Europe with an orange wedge on the rim to enhance the subtle orange flavour in the brew.

    Personally, I cannot stand beers with added citrus flavor. I like
    beer to taste like beer -- not like a shandy.

    I suspect you wouldn't like sour Belgian beers like Kriek or Flemish
    Red either then.

    I don't like shandies either; they're half lemonade but I do like a
    few drops, a single squeeze from a small wedge, of lime in ice cold
    light lager on a hot day. Also Big Rock Grasshopper, an Alberta made Kristallweizen which has no real citrus in it but still has a subtle
    citrusy taste because of the kind of yeast they use.

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    Title: Chicken Waterzooi Stew
    Categories: Chicken, Stews, Belgian, Beer
    Yield: 6 Servings

    4 Stalks celery; julienned
    4 md Carrots; julienned
    6 Boneless skinless chicken
    -breast halves
    1 tb Vegetable oil
    2 tb Unsalted butter
    3 Minced shallots
    1/4 lb Slice mushrooms
    1 lg Leek; thinly sliced (white
    -part only)
    1 Clove minced garlic
    Fresh thyme; a few sprigs
    1 tb Peppercorns
    12 oz St. Amand French Country
    -Ale
    3 c Half & half
    Salt & pepper

    Steam the celery and carrots for 5 minutes and set aside. Heat the
    oil and one tablespoon butter in a deep skillet; saute chicken until
    golden and juices run clear (about 4 minutes per side). Cool chicken
    slightly and cut crosswise into large pieces; cover with plastic wrap
    and set aside. Add remaining butter to pan and lightly saute the
    shallots, mushrooms, leek, garlic and thyme for about 5 minutes. Add
    the St. Amand Ale and peppercorns, increase heat and simmer for about
    15 minutes till the liquid is reduced by half, stirring to loosen
    brown bits in the pan. Stir in half & half and simmer for 10 minutes
    until sauce thickens. Add chicken, celery and carrots, heat through.
    Add salt and pepper to taste and serve immediately. Accompany with
    steamed new potatoes, a radicchio salad, and more St. Amand French
    Country Ale.

    From the European Cuisines website

    Posted by: Michael Sharp

    St. Amand French Country Ale is an amber red malty slightly fruity Biere
    de Garde -JW

    A traditional classification for the farmhouse ales of France and
    their sometimes-untraditional new-world counterparts. Biere de
    Garde is today generally a warm fermented strong pale ale -
    sometimes blonde, sometimes amber, and has much in common with
    Belgium ales. Medium bodied with hints of caramel or toffee.
    Cellared smell and flavor are characteristics. The name means
    "beer for keeping". - www.ratebeer.com/beerstyles

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    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DAVE DRUM on Sunday, October 21, 2018 20:45:00

    Quoting Dave Drum to Jim Weller <=-

    And lime adds pleasant acidity and balance to any malty sweet, low
    hopped light lager, not just Corona, the makers of which made the
    concept popular.

    Did you ever work in a P.R. position? Those comments sound an awful
    like the marketroid-speak one would find in a manufacturer's web-site
    from a flack putting the company "spin" on things.

    OK I'll re-phrase that... "Lime make Corona taste good."

    Brace yourself .... from an article in Beer Street Journal "Get ready
    to drink like it's the 90's (again) Zima is returning to shelves"

    Luckily that doesn't mean I have to buy it or drink it.

    It is, after all, a Molson/Miller/Coors brand. They have never let
    good taste stand in the way of profit. Jolly Ranchers candy NOT
    included.

    Jolly Ranchers? What's the connection there?

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    Title: Chicken and Rice, Puerto Rican Style
    Categories: Chicken, Caribbean, Beer, Pork
    Yield: 6 Servings

    4 lb Whole chicken; cut up
    THE ADOBO:
    3 ts Olive oil
    2 Cloves garlic; minced
    3 ts Oregano
    1 ts Vinegar or fresh squeezed
    Lime juice
    2 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Black pepper
    THE STOCK:
    1 Clove garlic; smashed
    1 Onion; coarsely chopped
    1 Stalk celery; chopped
    5 Sprigs cilantro
    Chicken neck,back,wing tips
    THE RECAITO:
    1 Onion
    1 Green bell pepper; cored
    And seeded
    8 Sprigs cilantro
    COOKING THE CHICKEN:
    3 tb Olive oil
    1/2 c Salt pork; diced
    8 oz Tomato sauce
    1 1/2 c Beer
    2 c Rice
    18 Pimento stuffed green olives
    Cut in half
    3 ts Capers
    6 oz Pimento; cut into strips
    1 c Frozen peas; defrosted

    Mix ingredients for the Adobo and rub over chicken pieces. Cover and
    refrigerate overnight or let sit at room temperature for 1 hour.

    Make the stock. In a large soup pot put the neck, back and wing tips
    in 4 cups water with the garlic, onion, celery and cilantro. Bring to
    a boil, reduce heat and simmer, uncovered, for 2 - 3 hours. Strain
    out solids and return stock to pot.

    Coarsely chop Recaito ingredients then place in a food processor and
    process until finely chopped.

    Heat the oil in a large saucepan or Dutch oven. Add salt pork, if
    using, and cook 3 - 5 minutes. Add the recaito and cook until most
    of its liquid has evaporated. Add chicken thighs and drumsticks
    and cook 5 minutes. Add remaining chicken and cook 10 minutes,
    turning to brown on all sides. Add tomato sauce, then 3 cups stock
    (or 1 1/2 cups stock and 1 1/2 cups beer) and the rice. Bring to a
    boil. Add chicken, olives, capers, peas and salt, if necessary.
    Reduce heat and simmer, uncovered, until all surface liquid has
    disappeared. With a wooden spoon stir rice up from the bottom of
    the pan. Reduce heat to very low, cover, and cook for 1 hour,
    stirring every 15 minutes to turn rice up from the bottom of the
    pan.

    Recipe By: Lada Fretz

    From: Andy

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    Jim

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Jim Weller on Tuesday, October 23, 2018 00:39:00
    On 10-21-18 20:44, Jim Weller <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about 424 Oktoberfest <=-

    Personally, I cannot stand beers with added citrus flavor. I like
    beer to taste like beer -- not like a shandy.

    I suspect you wouldn't like sour Belgian beers like Kriek or Flemish
    Red either then.

    I'll take your word for that -- it is just possible that I might have
    tried one once when out with Michael, but I suspect that since he is a
    good friend and knows what I like, he would have warned me away from it.


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    Title: Wesley & Kathy's World-Famous Killer 4-Star Venison Chili
    Categories:
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3 lb Finely chopped venison *
    1 ea Medium onion
    4 ea Cloves garlic
    1 x Salt to taste
    1/4 c (or more) Chili powder
    2 tb Olive oil
    1 tb Cumin
    1 cn Texas beer
    1/2 c Water or beef broth
    1 tb Mexican oregano
    2 tb Masa or corn meal **
    1 ts Ground coriander

    * Venison should be cut from the neck or shoulder

    ** Dissolve masa in about 1/4 c water

    Saute the meat in the oil until about 1/2 browned. Add onions and
    garlic and saute until onions are tender, but not brown. Add chili
    powder, coriander, and cumin, and cook, stirring, for 4 - 5 minutes.
    Do not allow to burn. Add beer and water/broth and simmer, stirring
    frequently until meat is tender. (About 45 minutes - 1 hour) When
    meat is tender, stir in masa, dissolved in water or broth. Simmer,
    stirring frequently an additional 30 minutes or so. If possible,
    allow chili to cool and sit for at least 6 hours before re-heating
    and serving.

    Wes and Kathy Pitts. Re-U/L to NCE by Burt Ford 10/96 8/98 10/00.

    From: Burton Ford <burton5@rochester.Rr

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  • From Dave Drum@1:3634/12 to JIM WELLER on Tuesday, October 23, 2018 06:23:00
    JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    And lime adds pleasant acidity and balance to any malty sweet, low
    hopped light lager, not just Corona, the makers of which made the
    concept popular.

    Did you ever work in a P.R. position? Those comments sound an awful
    like the marketroid-speak one would find in a manufacturer's web-site
    from a flack putting the company "spin" on things.

    OK I'll re-phrase that... "Lime make Corona taste good."

    Lime give Corona *some* flavour. It's as tasty as Coors of any stripe.

    Brace yourself .... from an article in Beer Street Journal "Get ready
    to drink like it's the 90's (again) Zima is returning to shelves"

    Luckily that doesn't mean I have to buy it or drink it.

    It is, after all, a Molson/Miller/Coors brand. They have never let
    good taste stand in the way of profit. Jolly Ranchers candy NOT
    included.

    Jolly Ranchers? What's the connection there?

    Jolly Ranchers candy used to be featured prominently in their adverts.
    I don't know if there is a corp-rat connection or if it was just a prop.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chicken and Rice, Puerto Rican Style
    Categories: Chicken, Caribbean, Beer, Pork
    Yield: 6 Servings

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    Title: Skillet Chicken Paella (Diabetic)
    Categories: Poultry, Rice, Herbs, Vegetables
    Yield: 6 Servings

    24 oz Chicken; in 1" pieces
    1 tb Extra virgin olive oil
    1 md Onion; chopped
    1 cl Garlic; minced
    2 1/4 c Chicken broth
    1 c Parboiled rice
    1 ts Oregano; dried, crushed
    1/2 ts Paprika
    1/4 ts Salt; opt
    1/4 ts Pepper
    1/8 ts Saffron; ground
    +=OR=+
    1/8 ts Turmeric
    1 3/4 c Tomatoes; stewed
    1 md Red bell pepper; in strips
    3/4 c Peas; fresh or frozen

    Remove skin from chicken breast. Rinse and pat dry with
    paper towels. Cut into bite-sized strips. In a 10 inch
    skillet cook chicken strips, HALF at a time, in hot oil for
    2 to 3 minutes or till no longer pink. Remove chicken from
    skillet.

    Add onion and garlic to skillet; cook till tender but not
    brown. Remove skillet from heat. Add broth, uncooked rice,
    oregano, paprika, salt, pepper and saffron or turmeric.
    Bring to boiling. Reduce heat. Simmer, covered, about 15
    minutes.

    Coarsely chop stewed tomatoes and add with their juice to
    the pan. Add sweet red pepper which has been cut into strips
    and peas.

    Cover and simmer about 5 minutes more or until rice is
    tender. Stir in cooked chicken. Cook and stir about 1 minute
    more or till heated through.

    Makes 6 main-dish servings.

    Better Homes and Gardens Magazine, Sept 1992

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

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