Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 09-21-18 17:13 <=-

You weren't raised with it. Pumpernickel bagels, toasted with
cream cheese, are wonderful things if you like pumpernickel
and can eat cream cheese.

Sounds good to me... :) I was raised with it, too... Daddy bought
all kinds of flavors of breads, including pumpernickle... I remember
a "chant" we often did in the car on a Sunday morning driving to
some country church where Daddy was going to fill their pulpit for
the day (a loaf of bread, usually raisin, but sometimes pumpernickel
being breakfast for the family in the car)... "Jane Parker
Pumpernickel bread, No Fat Attic" (the last bit being some child's mispronounce of "Added" which got picked up on for the chant)...

Was that an "Anne Page" brand? :-)

An A&P brand, yes.... Or as Daddy refered to the store, Apple and
Poofle... ;)

back with us. I didn't have any of it.

All the more for them.

Exactly... I don't remember if it all was eaten or not... it
seemed to be about the right amount....

It does tend to vanish.

It did go well with Dale's pastrami... :)

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the day (a loaf of bread, usually raisin, but sometimes

pumpernickel

being breakfast for the family in the car)... "Jane Parker
Pumpernickel bread, No Fat Attic" (the last bit being some

child's

mispronounce of "Added" which got picked up on for the chant)...

Was that an "Anne Page" brand? :-)

An A&P brand, yes.... Or as Daddy refered to the store, Apple and
Poofle... ;)

My grandmother shopped in one when I was little, and Grandpa stocked
shelves in one during the Depression.

Exactly... I don't remember if it all was eaten or not... it
seemed to be about the right amount....

It does tend to vanish.

It did go well with Dale's pastrami... :)

Now that's a magic word.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 09-29-18 16:47 <=-

the day (a loaf of bread, usually raisin, but sometimes
pumpernickel being breakfast for the family in the car)...
"Jane Parker Pumpernickel bread, No Fat Attic" (the last bit
being some child's mispronounce of "Added" which got picked
up on for the chant)...

Was that an "Anne Page" brand? :-)

An A&P brand, yes.... Or as Daddy refered to the store, Apple and
Poofle... ;)

My grandmother shopped in one when I was little, and Grandpa stocked shelves in one during the Depression.

A relationship that goes back generations... ;) I have fond memories of
going grocery shopping with Daddy, he did all the shopping and would
bring some of the kids along to get them out from under foot at home...
A&P was definately a regular, along with whatever else was available
wherever we were living at the time....

Exactly... I don't remember if it all was eaten or not... it
seemed to be about the right amount....

It does tend to vanish.

It did go well with Dale's pastrami... :)

Now that's a magic word.

True... :)

ttyl neb

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Poofle... ;)

My grandmother shopped in one when I was little, and Grandpa

stocked

shelves in one during the Depression.

A relationship that goes back generations... ;) I have fond

memories of

going grocery shopping with Daddy, he did all the shopping and

would

bring some of the kids along to get them out from under foot at

home...

A&P was definately a regular, along with whatever else was

available

wherever we were living at the time....

My dad could reconstruct an old damaged piece of technology with one
hand behind his back, but he'd have been totally lost in a
supermarket. I think the last time I remember him going into one
(with Mom in the lead) was on vacation in the 80s.

It does tend to vanish.

It did go well with Dale's pastrami... :)

Now that's a magic word.

True... :)

Add cheese or sauerkraut and color it gone.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 10-04-18 00:27 <=-

My grandmother shopped in one when I was little, and Grandpa
stocked shelves in one during the Depression.

A relationship that goes back generations... ;) I have fond
memories of going grocery shopping with Daddy, he did all the
shopping and would bring some of the kids along to get them out
from under foot at home... A&P was definately a regular, along with
whatever else was available wherever we were living at the time....

My dad could reconstruct an old damaged piece of technology with one
hand behind his back, but he'd have been totally lost in a
supermarket. I think the last time I remember him going into one
(with Mom in the lead) was on vacation in the 80s.

Not sure exactly why Daddy took it on... possibly he got used to doing
it during his bachelor days when he was in grad school... he might have
been taken regularly by his mom, with his dad away aboard ship most of
the time he was growing up, and didn't mind it... He might have taken it
on when they had three kids under 4 (and then four kids 5 and under),
and probably only one car... And maybe his scientific mind (he was a
physicist) just enjoyed the challenge of getting the best deals... :)

It does tend to vanish.

It did go well with Dale's pastrami... :)

Now that's a magic word.

True... :)

Add cheese or sauerkraut and color it gone.

We just had it with various mustards on the pumpernickel/rye swirl
bread... or eaten out of hand... (G)

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hand behind his back, but he'd have been totally lost in a
supermarket. I think the last time I remember him going into

one

(with Mom in the lead) was on vacation in the 80s.

Not sure exactly why Daddy took it on... possibly he got used to

doing

it during his bachelor days when he was in grad school... he might

have

been taken regularly by his mom, with his dad away aboard ship most

of

the time he was growing up, and didn't mind it... He might have

taken it

on when they had three kids under 4 (and then four kids 5 and

under),

and probably only one car... And maybe his scientific mind (he was

a

physicist) just enjoyed the challenge of getting the best deals...

:)

Supermarket hacking? I could see that one, and the other scenarios;
odds are it was a combination. Coupon use for me is part of a game I
call "Make their accountant cry".(LOL) I win when I get free stuff,
and sometimes get coupons to pay more than the price of the item. It
does happen. A lot of the free items are things I can't use, but they
can be donated.

It did go well with Dale's pastrami... :)

Now that's a magic word.

True... :)

Add cheese or sauerkraut and color it gone.

We just had it with various mustards on the pumpernickel/rye swirl
bread... or eaten out of hand... (G)

I'm guessing the MLoo did the latter. No point in messing up a good
thing with bread, right?
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 10-10-18 00:17 <=-

hand behind his back, but he'd have been totally lost in a supermarket. I think the last time I remember him going into
one (with Mom in the lead) was on vacation in the 80s.

Not sure exactly why Daddy took it on... possibly he got used to
doing it during his bachelor days when he was in grad school... he
might have been taken regularly by his mom, with his dad away
aboard ship most of the time he was growing up, and didn't mind
it... He might have taken it on when they had three kids under 4
(and then four kids 5 and under), and probably only one car... And
maybe his scientific mind (he was a physicist) just enjoyed the
challenge of getting the best deals... :)

Supermarket hacking? I could see that one, and the other scenarios;
odds are it was a combination.

I doubt he would have described it as such... but, yes, I guess so... :)

Coupon use for me is part of a game I call "Make their accountant cry".(LOL) I win when I get free stuff, and sometimes get coupons
to pay more than the price of the item. It does happen. A lot of the
free items are things I can't use, but they can be donated.

I don't play the game quite so assiduously as you do, but it is a
pleasant feeling to get something for free or a little less... I tend to
only do it for things I'd be getting anyway, and luck into the right
combo of coupons and/or sales, though... :)

It did go well with Dale's pastrami... :)

Now that's a magic word.

True... :)

Add cheese or sauerkraut and color it gone.

We just had it with various mustards on the pumpernickel/rye swirl
bread... or eaten out of hand... (G)

I'm guessing the MLoo did the latter. No point in messing up a good thing with bread, right?

Exactly... I did have my first bit on bread with mustard, but thereafter
I was also eating out of hand.... :)

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might have been taken regularly by his mom, with his dad away
aboard ship most of the time he was growing up, and didn't mind
it... He might have taken it on when they had three kids under 4
(and then four kids 5 and under), and probably only one car...

And

maybe his scientific mind (he was a physicist) just enjoyed the
challenge of getting the best deals... :)

Supermarket hacking? I could see that one, and the other

scenarios;

odds are it was a combination.

I doubt he would have described it as such... but, yes, I guess

so... :)

The term has been broadened over the years to include things that you
normally wouldn't think of as technology-heavy.

Coupon use for me is part of a game I call "Make their

accountant

cry".(LOL) I win when I get free stuff, and sometimes get

coupons

to pay more than the price of the item. It does happen. A lot

of the

free items are things I can't use, but they can be donated.

I don't play the game quite so assiduously as you do, but it is a
pleasant feeling to get something for free or a little less... I

tend to

only do it for things I'd be getting anyway, and luck into the

right

combo of coupons and/or sales, though... :)

It's FUN when the manufacturer and retail pay for it.

bread... or eaten out of hand... (G)

I'm guessing the MLoo did the latter. No point in messing up

a good

thing with bread, right?

Exactly... I did have my first bit on bread with mustard, but

thereafter

I was also eating out of hand.... :)

Sometimes it's the only way. I did eat ham today with bread. Also
with peanut butter.:-)
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 10-18-18 17:07 <=-

might have been taken regularly by his mom, with his dad away
aboard ship most of the time he was growing up, and didn't mind
it... He might have taken it on when they had three kids under 4
(and then four kids 5 and under), and probably only one car...
And maybe his scientific mind (he was a physicist) just enjoyed
the challenge of getting the best deals... :)

Supermarket hacking? I could see that one, and the other
scenarios; odds are it was a combination.

I doubt he would have described it as such... but, yes, I guess
so... :)

The term has been broadened over the years to include things that you normally wouldn't think of as technology-heavy.

Ok... And yes, it probably was a combination of factors that played
into his being the primary grocery shopper.... :) Later on, when the
kids were all out of the house, they'd go shopping together... :)

Coupon use for me is part of a game I call "Make their
accountant cry".(LOL) I win when I get free stuff, and
sometimes get coupons to pay more than the price of the item.
It does happen. A lot of the free items are things I can't use,
but they can be donated.

I don't play the game quite so assiduously as you do, but it is a
pleasant feeling to get something for free or a little less... I
tend to only do it for things I'd be getting anyway, and luck into
the right combo of coupons and/or sales, though... :)

It's FUN when the manufacturer and retail pay for it.

Indeed. :)

bread... or eaten out of hand... (G)

I'm guessing the MLoo did the latter. No point in messing up
a good thing with bread, right?

Exactly... I did have my first bit on bread with mustard, but
thereafter I was also eating out of hand.... :)

Sometimes it's the only way. I did eat ham today with bread. Also
with peanut butter.:-)

Is that ham and PB on the same slice of bread....? or PB on the
ham....? Or just PB goes better on bread also... ;) Around here, one
can't just be sure they know which... (G)

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(and then four kids 5 and under), and probably only one

car...

And maybe his scientific mind (he was a physicist) just

enjoyed

the challenge of getting the best deals... :)

Supermarket hacking? I could see that one, and the other
scenarios; odds are it was a combination.

I doubt he would have described it as such... but, yes, I guess
so... :)

The term has been broadened over the years to include things

that you

normally wouldn't think of as technology-heavy.

Ok... And yes, it probably was a combination of factors that

played

into his being the primary grocery shopper.... :) Later on, when

the

kids were all out of the house, they'd go shopping together... :)

Those big kids have to learn some time. I've seen that in a local
store here too.

It's FUN when the manufacturer and retail pay for it.

Indeed. :)

Got free shampoo and styling stuff today. It almost made me not feel
the pulled scar tissue around that old incisional hernia
scarring...and the hole. I overdid things on Saturday, or something,
and I'm going to be paying for it for the next month.

Sometimes it's the only way. I did eat ham today with bread.

Also

with peanut butter.:-)

Is that ham and PB on the same slice of bread....? or PB on the
ham....? Or just PB goes better on bread also... ;) Around here,

one

can't just be sure they know which... (G)

Ham and PB sandwich. It sounds odd, but tastes pretty good.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 10-24-18 22:53 <=-

(and then four kids 5 and under), and probably only one
car... And maybe his scientific mind (he was a physicist)
just enjoyed the challenge of getting the best deals... :)

Supermarket hacking? I could see that one, and the other scenarios; odds are it was a combination.

Ok... And yes, it probably was a combination of factors that
played into his being the primary grocery shopper... :) Later on,
when the kids were all out of the house, they'd go shopping
together... :)

Those big kids have to learn some time. I've seen that in a local
store here too.

Actually I meant the Daddy and Mommy went shopping together.... but
there has been a time when my sister that lived here in town (before she
moved out to Bloomfield) and I would do our grocery shopping together...
and go to the public market together, too....

It's FUN when the manufacturer and retail pay for it.

Indeed. :)

Got free shampoo and styling stuff today. It almost made me not feel
the pulled scar tissue around that old incisional hernia
scarring...and the hole. I overdid things on Saturday, or something,
and I'm going to be paying for it for the next month.

Ouch. Sometimes there's no avoiding overdoing... but that should remind
you to be careful for a while.... ;) Nice that you scored at the store, though... ;)_

Sometimes it's the only way. I did eat ham today with bread.
Also with peanut butter.:-)

Is that ham and PB on the same slice of bread....? or PB on the
ham....? Or just PB goes better on bread also... ;) Around here,
one can't just be sure they know which... (G)

Ham and PB sandwich. It sounds odd, but tastes pretty good.

I'll take your word for it... no ham or PB around here at the moment to
try it out... ;) I like enough seemingly odd combinations myself... ;)

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when the kids were all out of the house, they'd go shopping
together... :)

Those big kids have to learn some time. I've seen that in a

local

store here too.

Actually I meant the Daddy and Mommy went shopping together.... but

So did I.(LOL)

there has been a time when my sister that lived here in town

(before she

moved out to Bloomfield) and I would do our grocery shopping

together...

and go to the public market together, too....

Sounds like fun, at least sometimes.

the pulled scar tissue around that old incisional hernia
scarring...and the hole. I overdid things on Saturday, or

something,

and I'm going to be paying for it for the next month.

Ouch. Sometimes there's no avoiding overdoing... but that should

remind

you to be careful for a while.... ;) Nice that you scored at the

store,

though... ;)_

The worst of it is I'm even really sure what I did, other than climb
straight up a flight of stairs.

Ham and PB sandwich. It sounds odd, but tastes pretty good.

I'll take your word for it... no ham or PB around here at the

moment to

try it out... ;) I like enough seemingly odd combinations

myself... ;)

My usual peanut butter doesn't have much salt in it, and the ham was
one of those brown sugar cured things. It worked.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 10-29-18 23:18 <=-

when the kids were all out of the house, they'd go shopping
together... :)

Those big kids have to learn some time. I've seen that in a
local store here too.

Actually I meant that Daddy and Mommy went shopping together....

So did I.(LOL)

Ok... wasn't sure... (G)

but there has been a time when my sister that lived here in town
(before she moved out to Bloomfield) and I would do our grocery
shopping together... and go to the public market together, too....

Sounds like fun, at least sometimes.

It was... usually... :) We get along well... :) Richard and I do the shopping together, now... He does the heavy lifting I'm not supposed to
and/or can't do...

the pulled scar tissue around that old incisional hernia scarring...and the hole. I overdid things on Saturday, or
something, and I'm going to be paying for it for the next
month.

Ouch. Sometimes there's no avoiding overdoing... but that should
remind you to be careful for a while.... ;) Nice that you scored
at the store, though... ;)

The worst of it is I'm not even really sure what I did, other than climb straight up a flight of stairs.

That's a bit scary.... As I said in the other message, I'm glad you are healing...

Ham and PB sandwich. It sounds odd, but tastes pretty good.

I'll take your word for it... no ham or PB around here at the
moment to try it out... ;) I like enough seemingly odd
combinations myself... ;)

My usual peanut butter doesn't have much salt in it, and the ham was
one of those brown sugar cured things. It worked.

OK.... :)

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shopping together... and go to the public market together,

too....

Sounds like fun, at least sometimes.

It was... usually... :) We get along well... :) Richard and I do

the

shopping together, now... He does the heavy lifting I'm not

supposed to

and/or can't do...

Oh, you brought the muscle with you. Or at least the eye candy.

something, and I'm going to be paying for it for the next
month.

Ouch. Sometimes there's no avoiding overdoing... but that

should

remind you to be careful for a while.... ;) Nice that you

scored

at the store, though... ;)

The worst of it is I'm not even really sure what I did, other

than climb

straight up a flight of stairs.

That's a bit scary.... As I said in the other message, I'm glad you

are

healing...

..slowly. I hope.

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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 11-04-18 22:56 <=-

shopping together... and go to the public market together,
too....

Sounds like fun, at least sometimes.

It was... usually... :) We get along well... :) Richard and I do
the shopping together, now... He does the heavy lifting I'm not
supposed to and/or can't do...

Oh, you brought the muscle with you. Or at least the eye candy.

Pretty much both... ;)

something, and I'm going to be paying for it for the next
month.

Ouch. Sometimes there's no avoiding overdoing... but that
should remind you to be careful for a while.... ;) Nice that
you scored at the store, though... ;)

The worst of it is I'm not even really sure what I did, other
than climb straight up a flight of stairs.

That's a bit scary.... As I said in the other message, I'm glad you
are healing...

..slowly. I hope.

Hopefully you are doing better....

ttyl neb

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the shopping together, now... He does the heavy lifting I'm not
supposed to and/or can't do...

Oh, you brought the muscle with you. Or at least the eye

candy.

Pretty much both... ;)

I could have used a shopping cart motor on Friday, aka a nice strong
young gentleman to do the pushing.

you scored at the store, though... ;)

The worst of it is I'm not even really sure what I did,

other

than climb straight up a flight of stairs.

That's a bit scary.... As I said in the other message, I'm glad

you

are healing...

..slowly. I hope.

Hopefully you are doing better....

Nope. Felt like the reverse today.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 11-10-18 18:07 <=-

the shopping together, now... He does the heavy lifting I'm not
supposed to and/or can't do...

Oh, you brought the muscle with you. Or at least the eye
candy.

Pretty much both... ;)

I could have used a shopping cart motor on Friday, aka a nice strong young gentleman to do the pushing.

I use the shopping cart as a makeshift walker.... usually it isn't too overloaded for me to still push it....

The worst of it is I'm not even really sure what I did,
other than climb straight up a flight of stairs.

That's a bit scary.... As I said in the other message, I'm glad
you are healing...

..slowly. I hope.

Hopefully you are doing better....

Nope. Felt like the reverse today.

One step forward, two steps back....? Or better, two steps forward,
only one step back, and then a step forward again....? If you're having
the same changeable and chilly weather we're having, I'm not too
surprised things are acting up, though....

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I could have used a shopping cart motor on Friday, aka a nice

strong

young gentleman to do the pushing.

I use the shopping cart as a makeshift walker.... usually it isn't

too

overloaded for me to still push it....

I usually do too. Today even the cart itself was a bit much.

you are healing...

..slowly. I hope.

Hopefully you are doing better....

Nope. Felt like the reverse today.

One step forward, two steps back....? Or better, two steps

forward,

only one step back, and then a step forward again....? If you're

having

the same changeable and chilly weather we're having, I'm not too
surprised things are acting up, though....

That too, but the holes are a somewhat separate issue. Somewhat
related - stiff muscles hurt worse and put more strain on the rest.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 11-15-18 23:01 <=-

I could have used a shopping cart motor on Friday, aka a nice
strong young gentleman to do the pushing.

I use the shopping cart as a makeshift walker.... usually it isn't
too overloaded for me to still push it....

I usually do too. Today even the cart itself was a bit much.

That's not good at all... do you have an appointment to see a doctor yet
to deal with it....?

you are healing...

..slowly. I hope.

Hopefully you are doing better....

Nope. Felt like the reverse today.

One step forward, two steps back....? Or better, two steps
forward, only one step back, and then a step forward again....?
If you're having the same changeable and chilly weather we're
having, I'm not too surprised things are acting up, though....

That too, but the holes are a somewhat separate issue. Somewhat
related - stiff muscles hurt worse and put more strain on the rest.

And could be pulling things some.... Sounds like you need to get those
holes fixed again....

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strong young gentleman to do the pushing.

I use the shopping cart as a makeshift walker.... usually it

isn't

too overloaded for me to still push it....

I usually do too. Today even the cart itself was a bit much.

That's not good at all... do you have an appointment to see a

doctor yet

to deal with it....?

Some of it's healing a bit on its own, although just climbing some
stairs didn't do me any good. At this point more surgery might do me
more harm than good.

That too, but the holes are a somewhat separate issue.

Somewhat

related - stiff muscles hurt worse and put more strain on the

rest.

And could be pulling things some.... Sounds like you need to get

those

holes fixed again....

Except that hard surfaces like medical beds and gurneys can
exacerbate the MS, and that's currently bad enough.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 11-21-18 15:19 <=-

strong young gentleman to do the pushing.

I use the shopping cart as a makeshift walker.... usually it
isn't too overloaded for me to still push it....

I usually do too. Today even the cart itself was a bit much.

That's not good at all... do you have an appointment to see a
doctor yet to deal with it....?

Some of it's healing a bit on its own, although just climbing some
stairs didn't do me any good. At this point more surgery might do me
more harm than good.

That's a sad state of affairs.... the healing on its own, though, is a
helpful thing at least....

That too, but the holes are a somewhat separate issue.
Somewhat related - stiff muscles hurt worse and put more
strain on the rest.

And could be pulling things some.... Sounds like you need to get
those holes fixed again....

Except that hard surfaces like medical beds and gurneys can
exacerbate the MS, and that's currently bad enough.

Oh... that does bring a different light on the subject... you are indeed
in a Catch-22 situation.... ;0

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That's not good at all... do you have an appointment to see a
doctor yet to deal with it....?

Some of it's healing a bit on its own, although just climbing

some

stairs didn't do me any good. At this point more surgery might

do me

more harm than good.

That's a sad state of affairs.... the healing on its own, though,

is a

helpful thing at least....

Slowly but I hope surely.

And could be pulling things some.... Sounds like you need to get
those holes fixed again....

Except that hard surfaces like medical beds and gurneys can
exacerbate the MS, and that's currently bad enough.

Oh... that does bring a different light on the subject... you are

indeed

in a Catch-22 situation.... ;0

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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 11-28-18 00:18 <=-

That's not good at all... do you have an appointment to see a
doctor yet to deal with it....?

Some of it's healing a bit on its own, although just climbing
some stairs didn't do me any good. At this point more surgery
might do me more harm than good.

That's a sad state of affairs.... the healing on its own, though,
is a helpful thing at least....

Slowly but I hope surely.

I hope so, too.... the surely part, anyway... :)

And could be pulling things some.... Sounds like you need to get
those holes fixed again....

Except that hard surfaces like medical beds and gurneys can
exacerbate the MS, and that's currently bad enough.

Oh... that does bring a different light on the subject... you are
indeed in a Catch-22 situation.... ;0

Kobyashi Maru rides again.

When the holes get too bad, does that override the exacerbation...?

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might do me more harm than good.

That's a sad state of affairs.... the healing on its own,

though,

is a helpful thing at least....

Slowly but I hope surely.

I hope so, too.... the surely part, anyway... :)

I'll take all the "surely" I can get. Didn't feel like it today, but
there's hope.

exacerbate the MS, and that's currently bad enough.

Oh... that does bring a different light on the subject... you

are

indeed in a Catch-22 situation.... ;0

Kobyashi Maru rides again.

When the holes get too bad, does that override the exacerbation...?

Could... but I haven't gotten there yet.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 11-30-18 23:49 <=-

might do me more harm than good.

That's a sad state of affairs.... the healing on its own,
though, is a helpful thing at least....

Slowly but I hope surely.

I hope so, too.... the surely part, anyway... :)

I'll take all the "surely" I can get. Didn't feel like it today,
but there's hope.

Hopefully today's been better....

exacerbate the MS, and that's currently bad enough.

Oh... that does bring a different light on the subject... you
are indeed in a Catch-22 situation.... ;0

Kobyashi Maru rides again.

When the holes get too bad, does that override the exacerbation...?

Could... but I haven't gotten there yet.

That old risk-benefit equation again....

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Slowly but I hope surely.

I hope so, too.... the surely part, anyway... :)

I'll take all the "surely" I can get. Didn't feel like it

today,

but there's hope.

Hopefully today's been better....

Sort of.

Kobyashi Maru rides again.

When the holes get too bad, does that override the

exacerbation...?

Could... but I haven't gotten there yet.

That old risk-benefit equation again....

Exactly. It's a juggling act, or more aptly a plate spinning act.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 12-09-18 23:44 <=-

Slowly but I hope surely.

I hope so, too.... the surely part, anyway... :)

I'll take all the "surely" I can get. Didn't feel like it
today, but there's hope.

Hopefully today's been better....

Sort of.

Good days and bad days, eh....?

Kobyashi Maru rides again.

When the holes get too bad, does that override the
exacerbation...?

Could... but I haven't gotten there yet.

That old risk-benefit equation again....

Exactly. It's a juggling act, or more aptly a plate spinning act.

And they aren't plastic or wooden plates, either... so go smash when
they escape the act....

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Hopefully today's been better....

Sort of.

Good days and bad days, eh....?

And sideways. Mostly sideways.

Could... but I haven't gotten there yet.

That old risk-benefit equation again....

Exactly. It's a juggling act, or more aptly a plate spinning

act.

And they aren't plastic or wooden plates, either... so go smash

when

they escape the act....

Exactly. No frisbees on those poles.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 12-15-18 18:06 <=-

Hopefully today's been better....

Sort of.

Good days and bad days, eh....?

And sideways. Mostly sideways.

I can relate...

Could... but I haven't gotten there yet.

That old risk-benefit equation again....

Exactly. It's a juggling act, or more aptly a plate spinning
act.

And they aren't plastic or wooden plates, either... so go smash
when they escape the act....

Exactly. No frisbees on those poles.

Sigh.... I always hope for wooden... or, even better, rubber to bounce back into the act....

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Hopefully today's been better....

Sort of.

Good days and bad days, eh....?

And sideways. Mostly sideways.

I can relate...

A good sinus attack or rapid barometer change in any direction,
"preferably" combined, can make life interesting.

And they aren't plastic or wooden plates, either... so go smash
when they escape the act....

Exactly. No frisbees on those poles.

Sigh.... I always hope for wooden... or, even better, rubber to

bounce back

into the act....

No Bumbles here, alas. Unless you count the cat.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 12-25-18 22:37 <=-

Hopefully today's been better....

Sort of.

Good days and bad days, eh....?

And sideways. Mostly sideways.

I can relate...

A good sinus attack or rapid barometer change in any direction, "preferably" combined, can make life interesting.

Ouch. The rapid barometer change generally messes with my sinuses...

And they aren't plastic or wooden plates, either... so go smash
when they escape the act....

Exactly. No frisbees on those poles.

Sigh.... I always hope for wooden... or, even better, rubber to
bounce back into the act....

No Bumbles here, alas. Unless you count the cat.

As long as she's not underfoot, tripping you....

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A good sinus attack or rapid barometer change in any direction, "preferably" combined, can make life interesting.

Ouch. The rapid barometer change generally messes with my sinuses...

Standing still for too long doesn't help either. Grrrr.

Sigh.... I always hope for wooden... or, even better, rubber to
bounce back into the act....

No Bumbles here, alas. Unless you count the cat.

As long as she's not underfoot, tripping you....

After she got stepped on a few times she learned.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 01-01-19 23:57 <=-

A good sinus attack or rapid barometer change in any direction, "preferably" combined, can make life interesting.

Ouch. The rapid barometer change generally messes with my sinuses...

Standing still for too long doesn't help either. Grrrr.

Some days one just can't win at all...

Sigh.... I always hope for wooden... or, even better, rubber to
bounce back into the act....

No Bumbles here, alas. Unless you count the cat.

As long as she's not underfoot, tripping you....

After she got stepped on a few times she learned.

I'd hope so.... It makes survival that much more likely... ;)

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"preferably" combined, can make life interesting.

Ouch. The rapid barometer change generally messes with my

sinuses...

Standing still for too long doesn't help either. Grrrr.

Some days one just can't win at all...

I can't break even these days; I'm just waiting for Jesus to come
back and upend the table for me.

> > As long as she's not underfoot, tripping you....

After she got stepped on a few times she learned.

I'd hope so.... It makes survival that much more likely... ;)

She may not be the brightest, and can't jump for beans, but she does
learn eventually.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 01-05-19 22:59 <=-

"preferably" combined, can make life interesting.

Ouch. The rapid barometer change generally messes with my
sinuses...

Standing still for too long doesn't help either. Grrrr.

Some days one just can't win at all...

I can't break even these days; I'm just waiting for Jesus to come
back and upend the table for me.

I hear you... :)

As long as she's not underfoot, tripping you....

After she got stepped on a few times she learned.

I'd hope so.... It makes survival that much more likely... ;)

She may not be the brightest, and can't jump for beans, but she does learn eventually.

Which is a Good Thing.... :)

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Standing still for too long doesn't help either. Grrrr.

Some days one just can't win at all...

I can't break even these days; I'm just waiting for Jesus to

come

back and upend the table for me.

I hear you... :)

This getting old stuff is the pits. Add in my current head cold and...yeahwell.

She may not be the brightest, and can't jump for beans, but

she does

learn eventually.

Which is a Good Thing.... :)

Keeps the screeching down if nothing else.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 01-13-19 17:49 <=-

Standing still for too long doesn't help either. Grrrr.

Some days one just can't win at all...

I can't break even these days; I'm just waiting for Jesus to
come back and upend the table for me.

I hear you... :)

This getting old stuff is the pits. Add in my current head cold and...yeahwell.

So far, I've stayed fairly healthy this winter, but it's early yet...
Scary part is that I'm a fair bit older than you are.... ;)

She may not be the brightest, and can't jump for beans, but
she does learn eventually.

Which is a Good Thing.... :)

Keeps the screeching down if nothing else.

Indeed.... :)

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This getting old stuff is the pits. Add in my current head cold and...yeahwell.

So far, I've stayed fairly healthy this winter, but it's early yet...
Scary part is that I'm a fair bit older than you are.... ;)

THe dumb cold is making the rounds. Mom didn't get it, or got such a
mild case she didn't recognize it as such. That's one advantage to
being old - exposure to cold germs.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 01-20-19 00:26 <=-

This getting old stuff is the pits. Add in my current head cold and...yeahwell.

So far, I've stayed fairly healthy this winter, but it's early yet...
Scary part is that I'm a fair bit older than you are.... ;)

THe dumb cold is making the rounds. Mom didn't get it, or got such a mild case she didn't recognize it as such. That's one advantage to
being old - exposure to cold germs.

So just consider this part of your beefing up your immune system...?
You do have a point there... works for the flu, too... When there was
all that hullabaloo about the bird flu a few years back, my friend, born
in 1916, didn't need to get the shot since she'd been exposed to the
1917 flu.... And I figure all the flu shots I've been given over the
years will have given immunities to quite a few strains, both present
and future.... :)

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THe dumb cold is making the rounds. Mom didn't get it, or got

such a

mild case she didn't recognize it as such. That's one

advantage to

being old - exposure to cold germs.

So just consider this part of your beefing up your immune

system...?

You do have a point there... works for the flu, too... When there

was

all that hullabaloo about the bird flu a few years back, my friend,

born

in 1916, didn't need to get the shot since she'd been exposed to

the

1917 flu.... And I figure all the flu shots I've been given over

the

years will have given immunities to quite a few strains, both

present

and future.... :)

If you had the 1917 flu, the new one couldn't bite you. That worked
for old folks during the Spanish Flu outbreak too. My one cousin
just started teaching, and she's picking up all sorts of bugs from
the kids. That happens until you acquire immunity to some of the
bugs.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 01-25-19 23:34 <=-

The dumb cold is making the rounds. Mom didn't get it, or got
such a mild case she didn't recognize it as such. That's one advantage to being old - exposure to cold germs.

So just consider this part of your beefing up your immune
system...? You do have a point there... works for the flu, too...
When there was all that hullabaloo about the bird flu a few years
back, my friend, born in 1916, didn't need to get the shot since
she'd been exposed to the 1917 flu.... And I figure all the flu
shots I've been given over the years will have given immunities to
quite a few strains, both present and future.... :)

If you had the 1917 flu, the new one couldn't bite you. That worked
for old folks during the Spanish Flu outbreak too.

Exactly... :)

My one cousin just started teaching, and she's picking up all sorts
of bugs from the kids. That happens until you acquire immunity to
some of the bugs.

Yup... but soon enough, she won't be getting sick so much, as she does
acquire that immunity... :)

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back, my friend, born in 1916, didn't need to get the shot since
she'd been exposed to the 1917 flu.... And I figure all the flu
shots I've been given over the years will have given immunities

to

quite a few strains, both present and future.... :)

If you had the 1917 flu, the new one couldn't bite you. That

worked

for old folks during the Spanish Flu outbreak too.

Exactly... :)

Herd immunity probably worked in the old folks' homes too, so the
staff didn't get it either, or got it in lower numbers.

My one cousin just started teaching, and she's picking up all

sorts

of bugs from the kids. That happens until you acquire immunity

to

some of the bugs.

Yup... but soon enough, she won't be getting sick so much, as she

does

acquire that immunity... :)

...eventually. New teachers usually catch everything at least once.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 02-05-19 23:58 <=-

back, my friend, born in 1916, didn't need to get the shot since
she'd been exposed to the 1917 flu.... And I figure all the flu
shots I've been given over the years will have given immunities
to quite a few strains, both present and future.... :)

If you had the 1917 flu, the new one couldn't bite you. That
worked for old folks during the Spanish Flu outbreak too.

Exactly... :)

Herd immunity probably worked in the old folks' homes too, so the
staff didn't get it either, or got it in lower numbers.

It would depend on who else one was exposed to, I'd think... ;)

My one cousin just started teaching, and she's picking up all
sorts of bugs from the kids. That happens until you acquire
immunity to some of the bugs.

Yup... but soon enough, she won't be getting sick so much, as she
does acquire that immunity... :)

...eventually. New teachers usually catch everything at least once.

Unless they'd been previously exposed to some of the bugs... :)

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Herd immunity probably worked in the old folks' homes too, so

the

staff didn't get it either, or got it in lower numbers.

It would depend on who else one was exposed to, I'd think... ;)

True. Little kids, neighbors, fast food workers....

Yup... but soon enough, she won't be getting sick so much, as

she

does acquire that immunity... :)

...eventually. New teachers usually catch everything at least

once.

Unless they'd been previously exposed to some of the bugs... :)

I'd imagine some day care kids would be immune to a lot of it. The
kids in day care pass stuff around, but only until they all catch
whatever and can't get it again.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 02-14-19 22:11 <=-

Herd immunity probably worked in the old folks' homes too, so
the staff didn't get it either, or got it in lower numbers.

It would depend on who else one was exposed to, I'd think... ;)

True. Little kids, neighbors, fast food workers....

Of course, the more one is exposed, the more likely that the immunities
get built up sooner than later... :)

Yup... but soon enough, she won't be getting sick so much, as
she does acquire that immunity... :)

...eventually. New teachers usually catch everything at least
once.

Unless they'd been previously exposed to some of the bugs... :)

I'd imagine some day care kids would be immune to a lot of it. The
kids in day care pass stuff around, but only until they all catch whatever and can't get it again.

In most cases, anyway.... :)

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the staff didn't get it either, or got it in lower numbers.

It would depend on who else one was exposed to, I'd think... ;)

True. Little kids, neighbors, fast food workers....

Of course, the more one is exposed, the more likely that the

immunities

get built up sooner than later... :)

One hopes sooner rather than later.

Unless they'd been previously exposed to some of the bugs... :)

I'd imagine some day care kids would be immune to a lot of it.

The

kids in day care pass stuff around, but only until they all

catch

whatever and can't get it again.

In most cases, anyway.... :)

There's always that one unlucky soul who doesn't get full immunity
the first time around. Even the measles vaccine is apparently only
about 95% effective.
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Quoting Ruth Hanschka to Nancy Backus on 02-19-19 23:20 <=-

the staff didn't get it either, or got it in lower numbers.

It would depend on who else one was exposed to, I'd think... ;)

True. Little kids, neighbors, fast food workers....

Of course, the more one is exposed, the more likely that the
immunities get built up sooner than later... :)

One hopes sooner rather than later.

True. :)

Unless they'd been previously exposed to some of the bugs... :)

I'd imagine some day care kids would be immune to a lot of it.
The kids in day care pass stuff around, but only until they all
catch whatever and can't get it again.

In most cases, anyway.... :)

There's always that one unlucky soul who doesn't get full immunity
the first time around. Even the measles vaccine is apparently only
about 95% effective.

Yup... I've heard of those that got chicken pox more than once... and a
friend of mine had at least two, I think three, cases of the shingles...

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