• 203 highways and loww

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Friday, August 24, 2018 00:45:26
    Life being what it is... :)
    Yeah. Or: "it is what it is," a phrase that I detest.
    Sometimes, though, perfectly appropriate... not my favorite either...
    Granted, truthful, but I figure it never or
    hardly ever adds anything to a conversation.
    First, it's tautological; further, it
    expresses a fatalism that I find odious.
    Sometimes it merely expresses being relatively content in the situation, having come to terms... not totally fatalistically...

    I don't buy that - I find it sillier than que sera sera,
    which is objectionable enough. Reflections of the old
    that that is is that that is not is not is that not so
    would-be tautological witticism.

    The beauty of TinyURL is that it makes unwieldy
    things, well, tiny. The cutting of the length
    of the original by a factor of 5 decreases the
    likelihood of typo by a similar figure.
    How long do those stay in effect...?

    Longer than the URLs that they point to, apparently.

    As I've pointed out to Ruth, the decision is not
    theirs to make. Of course, "they" have sweetened the
    deal by giving me free samples of an anticoagulant
    that is reputed not to have the potential catastrophic
    side effects of the previous supposed state of the art.
    Not sure how sweetened that seems to me... Did you try them out...? And
    if so, were they less making you bleed so much....?

    Haven't bothered yet. May not.

    and I'd also guess that I'd not habituate, so am still
    much better not taking it, ever... :)
    I hope you don't ever find yourself in a position
    to have to make the decision.
    I've already turned a doctor down on taking aspirin to prevent clots
    when I broke my ankle... and was shown to be perfectly correct in
    thinking I wouldn't need it.... Dunno, another situation might not be
    quite so clear cut to me, but I suspect I'd still stay with that...

    I wonder if the insurance companies require that
    the docs prescribe the stuff. Evidence-based medicine,
    you know (which I think is overapplied if not arrant
    bullshit).

    Michael can educate them that their recipes aren't NDN enough! [g]
    If the modern day NA's are coming up with recipes, wouldn't they be considered properly Native...? ;)
    No more than the recipes Ian and I have come up
    with or perfected would be English or Chinese.
    I suppose. :)
    Marcus Samuelsson doesn't characterize his
    recipes as Ethiopian (I do, though, just for fun).
    Is he, then, Ethiopian....?

    Ethnically, yes; Swedish by upbringing, New Yorker
    by culture.

    It is the concept of the limiting nutrient that
    is in some question, as well as the issue of how
    close in time the ingestions of the essential
    amino acids must be - they used to say in the
    same meal, then within the same day, now some say
    within a few days.
    I could maybe see within the same day... but I don't think foods stick
    around much more than that to combine and be useful... or to fill in the gaps... I had heard, in terms of total nutrition for children, that if
    they are getting a balanced diet over the course of a week or so it all balances out, but I always considered that a bit more macro a process anyway...

    I'm not sure how and whether they combine.

    And then there's the question of how much protein,
    complete or otherwise, you need at all.
    And that, too, seems to depend on who one is talking to... and which
    hobby horse they're riding... ;)

    Pretty much.

    Though I made a decent potato dish yesterday -
    leftover sprouted potatoes, beef fat, a half
    cup of expired half-and-half whose cap had been
    lost last month, a half cup of elderly but not
    expired milk, a years-old bouillion cube, and
    a bit of lemon juice. Tasted like twice-baked,
    not altogether a bad thing, but survival food.
    Surprising sometimes what can be salvaged and still edible... :)

    A battle I fight with many of my friends - Lilli and Bonnie
    both tend to when in doubt throw it out, only their doubts
    come easily and often; but then there are those such as
    Rosemary who keep things far longer than their wholesomeness
    would call for.

    meat and/or dairy, apparently its protein is useful.. ;)
    Of course, if one gets meat or dairy in one's diet,
    there's no point worrying about complete proteins.
    And my guess is that if one is already getting the complete proteins,
    the incomplete ones supplement and add their goodness to the mix...
    Possibly, but the more I think about it, the less the
    concept of complete protein makes any sense at all.
    And probably not worth time worrying over it, either.... especially for
    a meatatarian, or someone that eats plenty of dairy/eggs/soy... :)

    It has been said that the only diet that gives you
    all the nutrients you need except for protein is one
    in which you eat sweet potatoes exclusively, and who
    would do that. It's easy to fix, anyway.

    Two-toned sweet potato and potato gratin
    categories: side
    servings: 6 to 8

    3/4 lb sweet potatoes (about 2 md), peeled
    3/4 lb boiling potatoes (about 3 md)
    1/2 ts powdered mustard
    1/2 ts salt, or to taste
    1/2 ts freshly ground black pepper
    1 1/2 Tb all-purpose flour
    Butter for gratin dish
    2 Tb cold unsalted butter, cut into pieces
    1 c shredded Jarlsberg cheese
    1 1/2 ts freshly grated nutmeg
    1 lg egg
    1 c milk

    Slice the sweet potatoes very thin, as if for
    potato chips. Peel the white boiling potatoes
    and slice them in the same manner. Set each
    kind aside separately.

    Combine the mustard, salt and pepper with the
    flour.

    Butter a 13- to 14-in oval gratin dish or a
    2-qt shallow baking dish and arrange half the
    white potatoes in the dish, sprinkling them
    with 1/3 c Jarlsberg and 1/2 ts nutmeg. Cover
    the layer with half the sweet potatoes and
    sprinkle with half the flour mixture. Repeat
    for remaining layers. You will end up with
    2 white potato layers and 2 sweet potato
    layers.

    Preheat the oven to 375F.

    Whisk the egg. In a small saucepan over
    moderately high heat, scald the milk and add
    it in a thin stream to the egg, whisking all
    the while. Pour this custard mixture over the
    potato layers. Sprinkle the remaining 1/3 c
    Jarlsberg and 1/2 ts nutmeg evenly over the
    top, dot with butter pieces and bake the
    gratin in the middle of the oven for 45 min,
    or until the potatoes are tender and the
    gratin is bubbling and golden brown. Let
    the gratin stand on a kitchen counter for
    5 to 10 min to get crusty before serving.

    Sally and Martin Stone, Essential Root Vegetable Cookbook
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Monday, August 27, 2018 15:11:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 08-24-18 00:45 <=-

    Life being what it is... :)
    Yeah. Or: "it is what it is," a phrase that I detest.
    Sometimes, though, perfectly appropriate... not my favorite either...
    Granted, truthful, but I figure it never or
    hardly ever adds anything to a conversation.
    First, it's tautological; further, it
    expresses a fatalism that I find odious.
    Sometimes it merely expresses being relatively content in the situation, having come to terms... not totally fatalistically...
    I don't buy that - I find it sillier than que sera sera,
    which is objectionable enough. Reflections of the old
    that that is is that that is not is not is that not so
    would-be tautological witticism.

    That sort of thing gets my head spinning... ;)

    The beauty of TinyURL is that it makes unwieldy
    things, well, tiny. The cutting of the length
    of the original by a factor of 5 decreases the
    likelihood of typo by a similar figure.
    How long do those stay in effect...?
    Longer than the URLs that they point to, apparently.

    It lasted long enough for me to finally get to it... ;) Interesting
    article...

    As I've pointed out to Ruth, the decision is not
    theirs to make. Of course, "they" have sweetened the
    deal by giving me free samples of an anticoagulant
    that is reputed not to have the potential catastrophic
    side effects of the previous supposed state of the art.
    Not sure how sweetened that seems to me... Did you try them out...? And
    if so, were they less making you bleed so much....?
    Haven't bothered yet. May not.

    I suspect, if twere me, I'd not bother either... too many things that
    I'd not want to go wrong there...

    and I'd also guess that I'd not habituate, so am still
    much better not taking it, ever... :)
    I hope you don't ever find yourself in a position
    to have to make the decision.
    I've already turned a doctor down on taking aspirin to prevent clots
    when I broke my ankle... and was shown to be perfectly correct in
    thinking I wouldn't need it.... Dunno, another situation might not be
    quite so clear cut to me, but I suspect I'd still stay with that...
    I wonder if the insurance companies require that
    the docs prescribe the stuff.

    Dunno... the doc I stood down was a resident in the hospital... but he
    did give in... They might require that it be at least offered,
    encouraged or recommanded (spelling intentional, a variant picked up
    years ago from a sibling's kindergarden teacher)...

    Evidence-based medicine, you know (which I think is
    overapplied if not arrant bullshit).

    Quite agreed with you there...

    Michael can educate them that their recipes aren't NDN enough! [g]
    If the modern day NA's are coming up with recipes, wouldn't they be considered properly Native...? ;)
    No more than the recipes Ian and I have come up
    with or perfected would be English or Chinese.
    I suppose. :)
    Marcus Samuelsson doesn't characterize his
    recipes as Ethiopian (I do, though, just for fun).
    Is he, then, Ethiopian....?
    Ethnically, yes; Swedish by upbringing, New Yorker
    by culture.

    OK... Dale went into more detail, too... ;)

    It is the concept of the limiting nutrient that
    is in some question, as well as the issue of how
    close in time the ingestions of the essential
    amino acids must be - they used to say in the
    same meal, then within the same day, now some say
    within a few days.
    I could maybe see within the same day... but I don't think foods stick around much more than that to combine and be useful... or to fill in the gaps... I had heard, in terms of total nutrition for children, that if
    they are getting a balanced diet over the course of a week or so it all balances out, but I always considered that a bit more macro a process anyway...
    I'm not sure how and whether they combine.

    Maybe nobody really does.... ;)

    Though I made a decent potato dish yesterday -
    leftover sprouted potatoes, beef fat, a half
    cup of expired half-and-half whose cap had been
    lost last month, a half cup of elderly but not
    expired milk, a years-old bouillion cube, and
    a bit of lemon juice. Tasted like twice-baked,
    not altogether a bad thing, but survival food.
    Surprising sometimes what can be salvaged and still edible... :)
    A battle I fight with many of my friends - Lilli and Bonnie
    both tend to when in doubt throw it out, only their doubts
    come easily and often; but then there are those such as
    Rosemary who keep things far longer than their wholesomeness
    would call for.

    I end up keeping things too long, sometimes well past usability,
    eventually they do get tossed.... ;)

    And my guess is that if one is already getting the complete proteins,
    the incomplete ones supplement and add their goodness to the mix...
    Possibly, but the more I think about it, the less the
    concept of complete protein makes any sense at all.
    And probably not worth time worrying over it, either.... especially for
    a meatatarian, or someone that eats plenty of dairy/eggs/soy... :)
    It has been said that the only diet that gives you
    all the nutrients you need except for protein is one
    in which you eat sweet potatoes exclusively, and who
    would do that. It's easy to fix, anyway.

    Sweet potatoes and meat... what's wrong with that... (G) Ok, even I'd
    probably get tired of sweet potatoes if that's all I was having... ;)

    ttyl neb

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