• 188 was catty fishy

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 01:04:12
    I heard that thread count was important. I can
    tell the difference between 100-count and 300-count
    sheets but can't declare a preference.
    I'd rather have the higher thread count sheets but the lower thread
    count, especially if washed many times, will be just about as soft. Less durable tho, and that's the big difference.

    I find breathability most important (lower
    count wins) and comfort next (higher wins) in
    the evaluation of bedsheet fabric. Durability
    hasn't been my major criterion.

    Remember that a few wrinkles were not a deal-breaker
    in most cultures (certainly subsistence cultures).
    No, only mattered in the business, especially the white collar workers
    trying to move up the ladder.

    In cultures where laundry services evolved
    to a high art.

    (linsey-woolsey) to make an inexpensive but durable fabric.
    I've seen some such handed down as heirlooms
    by families with prerevolutionary heritages.
    Never as I recall seen them used, just shown
    around as a curiosity.
    Had you lived some 250 or so years, you might have worn garments made of linsey-woolsey. If I recall my reading about that era, they used lesser quality woll and flax in making the garments so very often the article
    was quite scratchy from the flax and wool--not very comfortable.

    If I'd lived 250 years ago, I'd have worn silk
    judging from the socioeconomic standing of most
    of my forebears.

    We discussed it before, but nobody could
    recall the original usage. I did cite the slogan
    in reference to one of the custard fruits,
    cherimoya or papaw or maybe durian.
    Probably durian. (G) It has a very unforgettable aroma.
    For me, it was indeed love at first taste. With
    ripe papaw, it likely would so be for anybody.
    Pawpaw as in persimmon or is it a different fruit? I've had persimmons;
    one of the families in our church in HI would bring some in every fall.
    They were delicious!

    Papaw as in a member of the cherimoya family
    but is of quite a different appearance, almost like
    a banana, and a temperate range. I've seen papaya
    called pawpaw or papaw, never persimmon.

    Interesting way of putting it.
    More accurate than the doctors would like
    to think, maybe less so than plumbers would.
    But I'm not going to suggest the thought to my doctor. (G)
    Depends what your relationship was with your
    doctor - you could get away with it if it was
    very good ... or very bad.
    I have a good relationship with him--and want to keep it that way.

    If it becomes a very good relationship, you can
    make that sort of joke.

    Long term solution will be the knee replacement; this is to
    forestall > that as long as possible. From what I've read/heard, the replacement has > an expected life span of 15 years, then it needs replacing. If I live to > be as old as my father, that would mean I'd need a couple of
    replacements.....................hoping I can get enough time from
    the > injections to only need one new knee in my lifetime.
    It's been said that they travel in pairs.
    I know of a couple of people who had both knees done at once. My left
    knee is doing well (so far); it didn't have the major traumatic injury
    that the right one did. That's the underlying issue with my knee.

    Ah, so best leave the sleeping dog alone.

    Speaking of needing--just pulled a couple of loaves of whole wheat
    bread > from the oven. The KA mixer did the bulk of the kneading, but when I
    shaped them after first rising, they got some hand kneading as
    well.
    Good for keeping up that muscle strength.
    Never lost much hand strength but the wrist strength took a hit some
    years ago. Been able to build that up somewhat but they will never be as strong as the hands are now.

    Lilli has been trying to make bread using her KitchenAid.
    She used the recipe on Genius Kitchen, which yielded a wet,
    goppy mess, as 120 is way too hot for home baker yeast, and
    there was way too much liquid anyway. I solved that by
    adding a bunch of flour, giving it an overnight rise, and
    then rolling it out like pie crust to line two sheet pans
    for pizza, which sort of worked. Today (day before
    yesterday as you read) she is using the Epicurious recipe
    by almost the same title, of which Genius Kitchen's is a
    pretty perfect half, except that half of 1/2 c water is
    not 3/4 c.

    As will other things we don't consider as food now.
    It's inevitable unless they can come up with
    lab-grown animal (complete) protein.
    It may be in the works, if not now, then in years to come.
    It's been done in very limited quantities.
    Whether enough for practical or commercial
    distribution in our lifetimes, hard to say.
    Frankenfoods?

    Not sure what your definition is for that term,
    but certainly highly altered (not necessarily
    genetically engineered, though).

    So I'll pass on this fish stew and make another one that uses
    something > like flounder, maybe chowder or Pine Bark Stew.
    Mmm - pine bark. [g]
    Fried pine bark
    I'll try this if I'm stranded somewhere in a pine forest with no other rations. Otherwise, the bark can stay on the trees.

    Pine-bark cake
    categories: dessert, odd, arf arf
    servings: 6

    h - cake
    250 g sugar
    250 g butter
    1 whole egg
    5 egg yolks
    175 g flour
    55 g pine-bark flour
    10 g baking powder
    h - mousse
    1 gelatin leaf
    40 g sugar
    300 g sour cream
    300 g double (heavy) cream

    To make the cake, mix the sugar and butter in
    a food processor and add the egg and egg yolks.
    Add the flours and the baking powder and mix
    once more until completely smooth. Roll out
    between sheets of baking paper to a thickness
    of 3 mm, transfer to a baking sheet and chill.

    Meanwhile, make the mousse. Soak the gelatin
    leaf in cold water, stir the sugar into the
    sour cream, then dissolve the gelatin into the
    sour cream mixture. Transfer to a bowl and
    stir until it reaches room temperature.

    Meanwhile whip the cream into soft peaks, fold
    this into the sour cream mixture and chill.

    Preheat the oven to 160C/325F. Remove the top
    layer of paper and bake until nicely coloured,
    leave to cool for 5 min, then cut into the
    desired shapes. Cool on a rack to allow the
    cakes to become firm. For the best results
    serve within 10 min of being taken out of
    the oven, with a spoonful of mousse on top.

    Magnus Nilsson, phaidon.com
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 20:22:11
    Hi Michael,

    I heard that thread count was important. I can
    tell the difference between 100-count and 300-count
    sheets but can't declare a preference.
    I'd rather have the higher thread count sheets but the lower thread count, especially if washed many times, will be just about as soft.
    Less > durable tho, and that's the big difference.

    I find breathability most important (lower
    count wins) and comfort next (higher wins) in
    the evaluation of bedsheet fabric. Durability
    hasn't been my major criterion.

    It helps, especially when you're on a budget. Heard an ad for Redland
    Cotton sheets on the radio today, advertising $50. off when you buy a
    set now. If they are advertsing that much off, the set must be several
    hundred $$, much more than I'd care to pay. OTOH, if they last for years
    and years, the cost is amortised better.


    Remember that a few wrinkles were not a deal-breaker
    in most cultures (certainly subsistence cultures).
    No, only mattered in the business, especially the white collar
    workers > trying to move up the ladder.

    In cultures where laundry services evolved
    to a high art.

    True, just having your own washer and dryer is nice. Beats beating stuff
    on a rock down at the river. (G)

    Never as I recall seen them used, just shown
    around as a curiosity.
    Had you lived some 250 or so years, you might have worn garments
    made of > linsey-woolsey. If I recall my reading about that era, they
    used lesser > quality woll and flax in making the garments so very
    often the article > was quite scratchy from the flax and wool--not
    very comfortable.

    If I'd lived 250 years ago, I'd have worn silk
    judging from the socioeconomic standing of most
    of my forebears.

    I'd probably have worn something in between.

    We discussed it before, but nobody could
    recall the original usage. I did cite the slogan
    in reference to one of the custard fruits,
    cherimoya or papaw or maybe durian.
    Probably durian. (G) It has a very unforgettable aroma.
    For me, it was indeed love at first taste. With
    ripe papaw, it likely would so be for anybody.
    Pawpaw as in persimmon or is it a different fruit? I've had
    persimmons; > one of the families in our church in HI would bring some
    in every fall. > They were delicious!

    Papaw as in a member of the cherimoya family
    but is of quite a different appearance, almost like
    a banana, and a temperate range. I've seen papaya
    called pawpaw or papaw, never persimmon.

    OK, I've probably misremebering something I read years ago.

    Interesting way of putting it.
    More accurate than the doctors would like
    to think, maybe less so than plumbers would.
    But I'm not going to suggest the thought to my doctor. (G)
    Depends what your relationship was with your
    doctor - you could get away with it if it was
    very good ... or very bad.
    I have a good relationship with him--and want to keep it that way.

    If it becomes a very good relationship, you can
    make that sort of joke.

    I don't think I would, even then.

    from > ML> the > injections to only need one new knee in my lifetime.
    It's been said that they travel in pairs.
    I know of a couple of people who had both knees done at once. My
    left > knee is doing well (so far); it didn't have the major traumatic injury > that the right one did. That's the underlying issue with my
    knee.

    Ah, so best leave the sleeping dog alone.

    Exactly!


    Speaking of needing--just pulled a couple of loaves of whole
    wheat > ML> bread > from the oven. The KA mixer did the bulk of the kneading, but > ML> when I
    shaped them after first rising, they got some hand kneading
    as > well.
    Good for keeping up that muscle strength.
    Never lost much hand strength but the wrist strength took a hit some years ago. Been able to build that up somewhat but they will never
    be as > strong as the hands are now.

    Lilli has been trying to make bread using her KitchenAid.
    She used the recipe on Genius Kitchen, which yielded a wet,
    goppy mess, as 120 is way too hot for home baker yeast, and
    there was way too much liquid anyway. I solved that by
    adding a bunch of flour, giving it an overnight rise, and
    then rolling it out like pie crust to line two sheet pans
    for pizza, which sort of worked. Today (day before
    yesterday as you read) she is using the Epicurious recipe
    by almost the same title, of which Genius Kitchen's is a
    pretty perfect half, except that half of 1/2 c water is
    not 3/4 c.

    I use one we copied off a bag of whole wheat flour years ago, changing
    the white flour called for to whole wheat.


    As will other things we don't consider as food now.
    It's inevitable unless they can come up with
    lab-grown animal (complete) protein.
    It may be in the works, if not now, then in years to come.
    It's been done in very limited quantities.
    Whether enough for practical or commercial
    distribution in our lifetimes, hard to say.
    Frankenfoods?

    Not sure what your definition is for that term,
    but certainly highly altered (not necessarily
    genetically engineered, though).

    Not fun food.

    100% WHOLE WHEAT BREAD

    3 c whole wheat flour
    1 tbsp (may be reduced by half) salt
    2 packets yeast (2 tbsp)
    2 eggs
    1/4 c each oil and honey
    1 c each water and milk (or dry milk and water)

    Mix dry ingredients, heat oil, honey, water & milk to 115. Add to dry,
    add eggs and 2 c flour, mixing well. Knead in 2-3 c more flour, until
    smooth and no longer sticky. Let rise until double, punch down and shape
    into 2 loaves. Let rise again, bake at 375 35 minute or until done.

    I use the KA mixing paddle for the first 5 cups of flour, then switch to
    the dough hook to knead in the last amount. You can also mix/knead by
    hand. I also use a tbsp or so of gluten; the original recipe did not
    call for this.

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
    rchaffly{at}earthlink{dot}net FIDO 1:396/45.28


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