• 178 was krautish

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Sunday, August 19, 2018 12:46:00
    Sometimes it just takes time.............and patience.
    They can't charge interest on disputed entries,
    so I'm not majorly concerned.
    No, nor can they insist you pay on the disputed charges. That was a help
    when our card had several 4 figure charges on it that we didn't make.

    True - that's mandated by Federal law and in general
    is a good thing.

    Not surprising that the Germans are so much more precise. (G) From
    what
    It's anyone's guess whether that difference in
    precision makes a difference in result. See below.
    I've read, the British gas marks are less exact--but better than no
    I'm not so convinced about the benefits of markings.
    Helps to have some sort of indicator as to how hot your oven is.

    I can usually tell within about 25F just by the way the
    wind hits my face when I open the door. No guarantees
    with humidifying or convection ovens, though.

    Well, after one gets used to the appliance that
    desired condition happens anyway.
    The theromometer gave us a better idea of where to set the dial until we replaced it (dial). About that time we also bought fridge/freezer thermometers which were quite useful over the years/moves/assorted sets
    of housing. Some places the fridge/freezer and/or oven were off
    significantly so we used the theromometers to set a more accurate

    After a break-in period and some jiggering around,
    Lilli's oven started reading the same as the boughten
    oven thermometer. She bought a second thermometer
    anyway just to make sure. I am encouraging her to give
    at least one of these to her son.

    temperature until the problem could be resolved. Don't know if military housing maintainence appreciated us telling them that the appliance was
    off by so many degrees but it was an accurate description. (G)

    Depends on whether maintenance wanted to maintain
    anything beyond the status quo.

    One hopes that with us it's merely CRS.
    There is early onset Alzheimer's, usually starting in the 50s or so.
    No matter at what age, CRS has less of a sting
    than Alz.
    Agreed, but at some point the truth has to be admitted. Because his

    Facing the facts is often an issue, but equally
    important is reassurance for those who don't have
    it. It's a tough diagnosis in so many ways.

    grandmother was a mean/violent dementia patient, my dad refused to use
    the word "dementia" to describe my mom. Mom was a sweet, docile patient,
    just the opposite of how Dad described his grandmother. Eventually, neat
    the end, Dad did use the word (and it's listed as cause of death on the certificate) but I know it wasn't easy for him to say it.

    The anger thing points toward Alz, and if that
    diagnosis had been available back then, it would
    later have been easier for your dad to accept
    the dementia diagnosis (neither is a good thing,
    of course, but the stigmas are different).

    I'm not so much of a hydration naysayer as I
    once was, but it still seems that the issue
    is grossly overblown (as most public health
    issues are).
    Depends on where you are. Inside a place with air conditioning in AZ
    isn't as bad as being outside in a hot, dry northeastern state.
    Hydration is needed more in the latter than the former, but step outside
    in AZ and you will need the hydration in short order.

    I've spent extended time in the Phoenix area
    and have been substantially dehydrated during
    all of it, as I drank copiously of alcoholic
    beverages and none of nonalcoholic. I might
    have to be a bit more careful at spring training
    '19, at which Swisher is planning to join me,
    but relatively harmless beer will be the order
    of the day for us.

    I learned how to make corn bread from NC natives who never out sugar
    in > it. Sugar makes it too sweet, more like a cake.
    Lack of sugar makes it seem too salty to me
    as well as sandy. Beach sandy, if you will.
    Must be your taste buds. Saw a recipe in one of my cook books
    ("Extending the Table", put out by the Mennonites) today for a Kentucky
    corn bread without sugar.

    Of course, almost all bread except real Tuscan
    bread is too salty to me and always has been -
    one of the reasons I think of bread as poison
    rather than the staff of life.

    Fresh corn summer salad
    Something I'd enjoy but Steve wouldn't. He'd eat all the other veggies
    but leave the corn.

    And of course I'd do pretty much the opposite.

    You said cornstarch, being so heavily purified,
    doesn't pose any problem, right? Otherwise, one
    could probably use arrowroot in this -

    Warm lemon souffle
    cat: dessert
    serves: 6

    2 envelopes unflavored gelatin
    1 c cold water
    5 eggs, separated
    3 1/2 Tb cornstarch
    1/4 c plus 5/6 c sugar, plus more for sprinkling
    1/2 c water
    1/2 c plus 1 Tb fresh lemon juice
    1/2 c plus 1 Tb heavy cream
    Zest of lemon, grated
    6 or 12 strips of lemon zest for garnish.

    Cover a large cookie sheet with plastic wrap, and place 6 flan
    rings on it. Dissolve gelatin in cold water. Set aside.

    Place egg yolks in electric mixer. Stir together the cornstarch
    and 1/4 c sugar, and then stir into yolks. Beat mixture on high
    speed until it turns light yellow.

    In a 1-quart saucepan, bring lemon juice, heavy cream and grated
    lemon zest just to a boil. Slowly pour lemon mixture into yolk
    mixture, beating all the time, until lemon mixture is completely
    incorporated. Return mixture to saucepan; and bring to a boil,
    whisking constantly, and boil for 3 min to a boil. Slowly pour
    lemon mixture into yolk mixture, beating all the time, until lemon
    mixture is completely incorporated. Return mixture to saucepan; and
    bring to a boil, whisking constantly, and boil 3 min to thicken.
    Remove from heat. Stir dissolved gelatin into yolk mixture.

    Wash and dry mixer bowl thoroughly. Beat egg whites in mixer until
    they form soft peaks. In a saucepan, stir 5/6 c sugar with 1/2 c
    water, and bring to 250F on a candy thermometer, making sure sugar
    does not stick to sides of pan. Remove from heat, and with mixer
    running slowly pour hot sugar mixture into egg whites. Make sure
    sugar mixture does not get on beaters.

    Fold meringue into yolk mixture. Spoon some into each flan
    ring, and with a spatula, make a dome shape. Cover each loosely
    with plastic wrap, and freeze for several hours or overnight.
    Remove souffles from freezer one or two at a time. Unmold by
    running a knife around edge of flan ring and pushing gently
    from bottom. Place each on a micro-safe plate by itself or on a
    very thin circle of sponge cake. Sprinkle sugar on top of each
    souffle to 1/8" thickness, and with a hand-held gas torch,
    caramelize sugar. Place plate in microwave oven on high 35-45
    sec. If you can fit two in oven at same time, cook 90-100 sec.
    Decorate with strips of lemon zest, and serve.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Sunday, August 19, 2018 20:25:32
    Hi Michael,

    Sometimes it just takes time.............and patience.
    They can't charge interest on disputed entries,
    so I'm not majorly concerned.
    No, nor can they insist you pay on the disputed charges. That was a
    help > when our card had several 4 figure charges on it that we didn't make.

    True - that's mandated by Federal law and in general
    is a good thing.

    Quite so, the card companies don't want the hassles of issuing a refund
    (with interest?) for payments that shouldn't have been made.

    It's anyone's guess whether that difference in
    precision makes a difference in result. See below.
    I've read, the British gas marks are less exact--but better
    than no > ML> I'm not so convinced about the benefits of markings.
    Helps to have some sort of indicator as to how hot your oven is.

    I can usually tell within about 25F just by the way the
    wind hits my face when I open the door. No guarantees
    with humidifying or convection ovens, though.

    I'm not that precise, even tho I've been baking for many years.

    Well, after one gets used to the appliance that
    desired condition happens anyway.
    The theromometer gave us a better idea of where to set the dial
    until we > replaced it (dial). About that time we also bought fridge/freezer
    thermometers which were quite useful over the years/moves/assorted
    sets > of housing. Some places the fridge/freezer and/or oven were off
    significantly so we used the theromometers to set a more accurate

    After a break-in period and some jiggering around,
    Lilli's oven started reading the same as the boughten
    oven thermometer. She bought a second thermometer
    anyway just to make sure. I am encouraging her to give
    at least one of these to her son.

    If the oven is working well, one thermometer is all that's needed. Even
    that may be considered over kill but I can understand a bit of paranoia.
    But, I agree, keep encouraging her to give the 2nd thermometer to her
    son. (G)

    temperature until the problem could be resolved. Don't know if
    military > housing maintainence appreciated us telling them that the appliance was > off by so many degrees but it was an accurate
    description. (G)

    Depends on whether maintenance wanted to maintain
    anything beyond the status quo.

    If it was a major problem, they replaced the appliance. For minor ones, depending on what it was, they might have sent someone out to tinker
    with it. Sometimes we just figured "OK, the oven is off by so many
    degrees so set the dial to this..........." and let it go at that.

    One hopes that with us it's merely CRS.
    There is early onset Alzheimer's, usually starting in the 50s
    or so. > ML> No matter at what age, CRS has less of a sting
    than Alz.
    Agreed, but at some point the truth has to be admitted. Because his

    Facing the facts is often an issue, but equally
    important is reassurance for those who don't have
    it. It's a tough diagnosis in so many ways.

    grandmother was a mean/violent dementia patient, my dad refused to
    use > the word "dementia" to describe my mom. Mom was a sweet, docile patient, > just the opposite of how Dad described his grandmother. Eventually, near > the end, Dad did use the word (and it's listed
    as ML> cause of death on the > certificate) but I know it wasn't easy
    for him ML> to say it.

    The anger thing points toward Alz, and if that
    diagnosis had been available back then, it would
    later have been easier for your dad to accept
    the dementia diagnosis (neither is a good thing,
    of course, but the stigmas are different).

    Some things are probably best left as is. After Mom died, they asked Dad
    if he wanted to have an autopsy done to determine if she had Alz or not,
    he declined. Would have been nice to know if it was for my/siblings
    medical histories but.............

    I'm not so much of a hydration naysayer as I
    once was, but it still seems that the issue
    is grossly overblown (as most public health
    issues are).
    Depends on where you are. Inside a place with air conditioning in AZ isn't as bad as being outside in a hot, dry northeastern state. Hydration is needed more in the latter than the former, but step
    outside > in AZ and you will need the hydration in short order.

    I've spent extended time in the Phoenix area
    and have been substantially dehydrated during
    all of it, as I drank copiously of alcoholic
    beverages and none of nonalcoholic. I might

    We drank nonalcoholic stuff and stayed fairly well hydrated. Now, when
    we go back to visit, I have to remember to push a bit more liquid the
    first few days. After that, it's automatic--keep drinking.

    have to be a bit more careful at spring training
    '19, at which Swisher is planning to join me,
    but relatively harmless beer will be the order
    of the day for us.

    Have fun!


    I learned how to make corn bread from NC natives who never
    out sugar > ML> in > it. Sugar makes it too sweet, more like a cake.
    Lack of sugar makes it seem too salty to me
    as well as sandy. Beach sandy, if you will.
    Must be your taste buds. Saw a recipe in one of my cook books ("Extending the Table", put out by the Mennonites) today for a
    Kentucky > corn bread without sugar.

    Of course, almost all bread except real Tuscan
    bread is too salty to me and always has been -
    one of the reasons I think of bread as poison
    rather than the staff of life.

    Some bread does taste too salty but not all, to me. Probably just the difference in our taste buds/how we were raised. My parents made us eat
    a lot of bread, little rice and yours were probably the opposite.


    Fresh corn summer salad
    Something I'd enjoy but Steve wouldn't. He'd eat all the other
    veggies > but leave the corn.

    And of course I'd do pretty much the opposite.

    Contrary-wise?


    You said cornstarch, being so heavily purified,
    doesn't pose any problem, right? Otherwise, one
    could probably use arrowroot in this -

    Warm lemon souffle
    cat: dessert
    serves: 6

    2 envelopes unflavored gelatin
    1 c cold water
    5 eggs, separated
    3 1/2 Tb cornstarch
    1/4 c plus 5/6 c sugar, plus more for sprinkling
    1/2 c water
    1/2 c plus 1 Tb fresh lemon juice
    1/2 c plus 1 Tb heavy cream
    Zest of lemon, grated
    6 or 12 strips of lemon zest for garnish.

    He'd have no problems with the cornstarch; there's not that much in it
    overall.

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    Ruth
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