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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Friday, August 10, 2018 15:22:58
    Labels and stereotypes are easier than thinking;
    it is hypothesized that we're wired to do snap
    judgments because our ancestors had to make them
    in survival situations. Friend or foe, eat me or
    me eat, all sorts of things. Now that we're not
    in that stage of existence, mostly, it would be
    hoped that we could outgrow that, but it seems no.
    Not sure that I agree with the hypothesis in the first place... but the tendency to make snap judgements does seem to be hard-wired at times...

    The appeal of that hypothesis is in its providing an
    explanation for our tendency to careless thinking.

    If - as in my travel musings - I don't expect much
    in the way of answers with quotes, I sometimes go
    up above 150 lines but try not to go much beyond
    that. For a conversational post, I aim for 100,
    maybe with a recipe taking it a bit beyond. Lest
    there be too much slopover, I do edit my quotations.
    My cutting messages short is mostly with Ruth and similar that have that
    sort of limitation built into the editors/programs they use... as a
    general practice I don't worry about them unless they are getting too
    close to 200 lines.... I find that a bit unwieldy... I have my Bluewave
    set to not cut messages short, actually... and have advised others about
    that setting... ;)

    The limitation had real usefulness in the days of
    sysops paying long-distance phone bills. Now, it's
    mostly to forestall the infinite quoting phenomenon,
    something that irritates the heck out of me - iPhones
    seem to default to that wasteful and annoying condition.

    Mind you, I don't condone the practice... In the family situations I'm aware of, while I've seen in happen with extended family members to witness it, I don't know that it happens with total outsiders... And generally it isn't physical, just visceral...
    One hopes it's never physical, but truth be told,
    one is more likely held accountable for physical
    than emotional battery.
    True... the "names will never hurt me" fallacy...

    Remember that that was chanted by the victims in
    a sort of self-protective ritual. If I'd been
    doing the taunting, I'd have sneered "so that's
    the way you want it, you got it."

    Sure: there are behaviors that never should go
    public at all, though.
    You'd think. I know, you said should, not that don't....

    There's nothing wrong, I think, with hoping
    for a better condition, even if that condition
    isn't likely to ever obtain.

    That is indeed an even more extreme case of it... Dunno if our situation might have gone that bad, had there not been so many of us, though... we had to look after each other, so there was less likelihood that we'd go off solo in destructive ways looking for the attention we needed... at least at that age...
    It was a bit extreme, but she didn't end up too
    damaged by it - she wasn't forced or anything, and
    from her recounting it sounded like she was, as
    with Lolita, the seducer rather than the innocent.
    As far as I know, her several legitimate children
    were never told about the episode.
    Hmmm... Did they know their older sibling, or was the child put up for adoption and never seen again...?

    As far as they were concerned, their mom was
    a virgin until marriage. Of course, the boy
    children at least probably are of the delusion
    that she still is one (the daughters were a
    little more connected with reality).

    Smelling the sausage. Eating it would be going
    to successful concerts by the beneficiaries of
    the aid and guidance.
    Those often follow the interview, as on-the-air performance... for
    example, on Julia Figueras's Backstage Pass monthly program on
    WXXI-FM... occasionally she's highlighting such enterprises locally. :)

    And I hope the kids really are good.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v7.07

    Title: Lemon Sticks
    Categories: Desserts, Cookies, German
    Servings: 2

    1 1/4 c Flour
    1 Stick + 2 Tbl unsalted
    -butter
    3 oz Sugar
    1 Egg
    1 ts Baking powder
    1 ts Vanilla
    FILLING:
    1/2 c Ground almonds
    3/4 c Sugar
    Juice of 2 lemons
    GLAZE:
    Juice of 1 lemon
    Powdered sugar

    Knead together the flour, butter, sugar, egg, baking powder and vanilla.
    Chill. Combine the almonds, sugar and lemon juice.

    Divide the dough in half. Roll or pat into a 1/4-inch thick rectangle on
    a
    greased baking sheet. Spread the filling over the top. Pat out the
    remaining dough over the filling. Bake in a 300 F oven just until golden
    brown. Cut immediately into 1-inch by 2-inch rectangles. Cool.

    Combine the lemon juice and enough sugar to make a thin glaze and brush
    over the top of the cookies. Wrap in alumnum foil. Store in an airtight
    container.

    Makes about 2 dozen.

    [The Sun Magazine; Dec 22. 1991]

    Posted by Fred Peters.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Monday, August 13, 2018 20:18:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 08-10-18 15:22 <=-

    Labels and stereotypes are easier than thinking;
    it is hypothesized that we're wired to do snap
    judgments because our ancestors had to make them
    in survival situations. Friend or foe, eat me or
    me eat, all sorts of things. Now that we're not
    in that stage of existence, mostly, it would be
    hoped that we could outgrow that, but it seems no.
    Not sure that I agree with the hypothesis in the first place... but the tendency to make snap judgements does seem to be hard-wired at times...
    The appeal of that hypothesis is in its providing an
    explanation for our tendency to careless thinking.

    There are simpler explanations... such as in Genesis 3... :)

    If - as in my travel musings - I don't expect much
    in the way of answers with quotes, I sometimes go
    up above 150 lines but try not to go much beyond
    that. For a conversational post, I aim for 100,
    maybe with a recipe taking it a bit beyond. Lest
    there be too much slopover, I do edit my quotations.
    My cutting messages short is mostly with Ruth and similar that have that sort of limitation built into the editors/programs they use... as a
    general practice I don't worry about them unless they are getting too
    close to 200 lines.... I find that a bit unwieldy... I have my Bluewave
    set to not cut messages short, actually... and have advised others about that setting... ;)
    The limitation had real usefulness in the days of
    sysops paying long-distance phone bills.

    Also there were some bbs softwares (and messaging softwares, I think)
    that just chopped off anything past a certain length, so a lot could go missing....

    Now, it's
    mostly to forestall the infinite quoting phenomenon,
    something that irritates the heck out of me - iPhones
    seem to default to that wasteful and annoying condition.

    I'm glad that with EMACS and BW, I don't have to worry about not being
    able to trim down quotes... the editor that comes with Pegasus (my email reader) isn't quite so user-friendly, at least for me... I've been known
    to not quote at all there, just because all I wanted to respond to was a smaller bit I couldn't crop down to...

    Mind you, I don't condone the practice... In the family situations I'm aware of, while I've seen in happen with extended family members to witness it, I don't know that it happens with total outsiders... And generally it isn't physical, just visceral...
    One hopes it's never physical, but truth be told,
    one is more likely held accountable for physical
    than emotional battery.
    True... the "names will never hurt me" fallacy...
    Remember that that was chanted by the victims in
    a sort of self-protective ritual. If I'd been
    doing the taunting, I'd have sneered "so that's
    the way you want it, you got it."

    As I said... a fallacy.... I was never a taunter, sometimes a victim,
    often an observer... it was readily obvious that names did hurt...
    despite the protective chant....

    Sure: there are behaviors that never should go
    public at all, though.
    You'd think. I know, you said should, not that don't....
    There's nothing wrong, I think, with hoping
    for a better condition, even if that condition
    isn't likely to ever obtain.

    Granted... and agreed... :)

    It was a bit extreme, but she didn't end up too
    damaged by it - she wasn't forced or anything, and
    from her recounting it sounded like she was, as
    with Lolita, the seducer rather than the innocent.
    As far as I know, her several legitimate children
    were never told about the episode.
    Hmmm... Did they know their older sibling, or was the child put up for adoption and never seen again...?
    As far as they were concerned, their mom was
    a virgin until marriage. Of course, the boy
    children at least probably are of the delusion
    that she still is one (the daughters were a
    little more connected with reality).

    That is rather delusional... Would it shake their sense of reality
    should the older half-sibling show up, wanting to be reunited with mom
    and family, I wonder...?

    Smelling the sausage. Eating it would be going
    to successful concerts by the beneficiaries of
    the aid and guidance.
    Those often follow the interview, as on-the-air performance... for
    example, on Julia Figueras's Backstage Pass monthly program on
    WXXI-FM... occasionally she's highlighting such enterprises locally. :)
    And I hope the kids really are good.

    They seem to be, from the performances I've heard... of course, it's
    radio so one can't view the performance... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... This is just one humble opinion, collect the whole series

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