Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 08-05-18 14:23 <=-

Indeed. And people, even icons, being human and complex, to say
nothing of being contradictory at times, there is always some
aspect that just about anyone might grab onto and run with...

And as so many people operate on the basis of
slogans and labels, there are significant dangers.

Sad but true...

Labels and stereotypes are easier than thinking;
it is hypothesized that we're wired to do snap
judgments because our ancestors had to make them
in survival situations. Friend or foe, eat me or
me eat, all sorts of things. Now that we're not
in that stage of existence, mostly, it would be
hoped that we could outgrow that, but it seems no.

Not sure that I agree with the hypothesis in the first place... but the tendency to make snap judgements does seem to be hard-wired at times...

It seems the 100 guideline doesn't have to
be strictly applied, but significantly over
that can cause the arbitrarily split messages
to be difficult to follow.

I'm not strict on the 100... a few more lines do seem to be ok, still,
but I figure that's a good number to aim for... and less than that is definitely going to be ok... ;)

If - as in my travel musings - I don't expect much
in the way of answers with quotes, I sometimes go
up above 150 lines but try not to go much beyond
that. For a conversational post, I aim for 100,
maybe with a recipe taking it a bit beyond. Lest
there be too much slopover, I do edit my quotations.

My cutting messages short is mostly with Ruth and similar that have that
sort of limitation built into the editors/programs they use... as a
general practice I don't worry about them unless they are getting too
close to 200 lines.... I find that a bit unwieldy... I have my Bluewave
set to not cut messages short, actually... and have advised others about
that setting... ;)

I've been known to do similar gyrations,
sometimes snipping and pasting in a different
order to make a runon message into two more
manageable ones (hopefully not altering the
context too much).

I guess we're just natural editors... (G)

Or don't have anything better to do.

Perhaps... ;)

There's a difference between a love tap and a
punch in the gut. If it's where it can be
witnessed by outsiders, I'd tend to judge
something as more on the lines of the latter.

Mind you, I don't condone the practice... In the family situations I'm aware of, while I've seen in happen with extended family members to
witness it, I don't know that it happens with total outsiders... And generally it isn't physical, just visceral...

One hopes it's never physical, but truth be told,
one is more likely held accountable for physical
than emotional battery.

True... the "names will never hurt me" fallacy...

I suppose that's heartwarming in a way. In
general, that game should not be played, though.

Agreed. My point was mostly that we might not know all the story of the relationship.... just the nasty parts we see...

Sure: there are behaviors that never should go
public at all, though.

You'd think. I know, you said should, not that don't....

result - she had a child by a Famous Violinist
when she was 13. Not one's first choice behavior
on anyone's part except perhaps theirs at the moment.
She had a thing for violinists for a long time
after, to my (short-lived) benefit.

That is indeed an even more extreme case of it... Dunno if our situation might have gone that bad, had there not been so many of us, though... we
had to look after each other, so there was less likelihood that we'd go
off solo in destructive ways looking for the attention we needed... at
least at that age...

It was a bit extreme, but she didn't end up too
damaged by it - she wasn't forced or anything, and
from her recounting it sounded like she was, as
with Lolita, the seducer rather than the innocent.
As far as I know, her several legitimate children
were never told about the episode.

Hmmm... Did they know their older sibling, or was the child put up for
adoption and never seen again...?

institution, but there's Project STEP, which we used
to give money to. And perhaps I see the sausage being
made, and that colors my view.

Possibly... And I hear the upbeat interviews on how well things are working... eating the sausage, so to speak...

Smelling the sausage. Eating it would be going
to successful concerts by the beneficiaries of
the aid and guidance.

Those often follow the interview, as on-the-air performance... for
example, on Julia Figueras's Backstage Pass monthly program on
WXXI-FM... occasionally she's highlighting such enterprises locally. :)

ttyl neb

... *at the end of the paycheck there are a lot of days leftover*

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