• 108 travel was crusty

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Sunday, August 05, 2018 14:25:00
    Right now, travelling around the States works best for us since we can't
    take the camper overseas. Saves on motel room/meal costs as even a site
    with full hook ups is usually much less than a room and a couple of restaurant meals. We're currently southbound.

    My own patterns have been "driven" by that innate
    curiosity plus the impracticability of auto transport.
    For me, a gig out two or ten states away was just as
    easy to get to (and perhaps almost as inexpensive) as
    one as close as central Mass. or Connecticut. Plus
    planes are safer than trains, buses, and cars.

    The melted butter added moisture and a bit of flavor; mayo would
    have > given it a different taste. I prefer the butter taste. (G)
    I'm okay with mayo if I make it myself.
    Less so otherwise.
    Depends on the mayo; I've found some good ones. Duke's was good until
    they started putting a preservative in it. I've a jar of Cain's in use
    right now. Just keep the Miracle Whip out of my house please.

    Cain's, despite its "localness," never was
    my thing. I put it on a par with Hellmann's,
    though perhaps it wasn't as tart. That's to say
    okay in a pinch but with a certain nastiness
    that real doesn't have. I avoided Duke's, but
    that was because when I encountered it, I avoided
    all mayonnaise, no exceptions.

    Relatively few of the places would deserve the title of restaurant - more snacky places and specialty retailers
    in little stalls the size of your trailer.
    Sort of like a mall's food court?
    Not quite that bad!
    OooooooooooooooooKay......................

    All right, not nearly that bad, but with the
    authentic odor of cheese, charcuterie, spilled
    meat juices, pickle juices, and so on.

    I don't use flour and other than heating the vinegar
    with the onions (optionally) and celery (very optional),
    and crisping the bacon, there'd be no cooking to thicken
    or to fix the flour. But I use a lot of bacon fat.
    I think my mom got the recipe from her Betty Crocker cook book (have to
    check when I get home; I've got the same one). It's close enough to some
    I had in Germany that it works. Much better than the canned Reid's
    GPS--their dressing is nowhere near the flavor of what I'm used to
    (being polite about it). (G)

    I'm not familiar with Reid's. Too sweet, is it?

    Lime juice would do well if one used the
    Miracle Whippy type dressing. Nutmeg I
    almost commented disparagingly about but
    didn't, giving Fred the benefit of the doubt
    for once.
    Take it with a grain of salt?

    That's all I can afford.

    Sunshine salad
    categories: 1940s, side
    servings: 6

    1 pk lemon-flavored gelatin
    1 c hot water
    1 c canned pineapple juice
    1 Tb vinegar
    1/2 ts salt
    1 c grated carrot
    2 1/2 c canned crushed pineapple
    1/3 c chopped nuts
    lettuce leaves
    1 c mayo

    Dissolve gelatin in water. Add pineapple
    juice, vinegar, and salt. Refrigerate
    until slightly thickened.

    Season carrots with additional salt.
    Combine with pineapple and nuts. Fold
    into gelatin. Turn into individual
    molds or 10x6" pan. Chill until firm.

    Unmold onto crisp lettuce. Garnish with
    a ring of mayonnaise.

    Source: Cain's ad
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Tuesday, August 07, 2018 11:32:52
    Hi Michael,

    Right now, travelling around the States works best for us since we
    can't > take the camper overseas. Saves on motel room/meal costs as
    even a site > with full hook ups is usually much less than a room and
    a couple of
    restaurant meals. We're currently southbound.

    My own patterns have been "driven" by that innate
    curiosity plus the impracticability of auto transport.
    For me, a gig out two or ten states away was just as
    easy to get to (and perhaps almost as inexpensive) as
    one as close as central Mass. or Connecticut. Plus
    planes are safer than trains, buses, and cars.

    Seems you've always lived within reasonable access of a decent airport
    as well. We seem to have averaged at least 45 minutes to an hour away
    which isn't bad, but less convenient for us, depending on where we're
    headed. We could be miles down the road with the camper in the time
    takes us to get to the airport and pre flight inprocess. Besides that,
    we don't have to worry about a 3oz liquids limitation; no knives or
    similar instruments of harm; have our own meals at a reasonable price;
    etc. (G)


    The melted butter added moisture and a bit of flavor; mayo
    would > ML> have > given it a different taste. I prefer the butter
    taste. (G) > ML> I'm okay with mayo if I make it myself.
    Less so otherwise.
    Depends on the mayo; I've found some good ones. Duke's was good
    until > they started putting a preservative in it. I've a jar of
    Cain's in use > right now. Just keep the Miracle Whip out of my house please.

    Cain's, despite its "localness," never was
    my thing. I put it on a par with Hellmann's,
    though perhaps it wasn't as tart. That's to say
    okay in a pinch but with a certain nastiness
    that real doesn't have. I avoided Duke's, but
    that was because when I encountered it, I avoided
    all mayonnaise, no exceptions.

    I tried making my own years ago, found it made too much for the need at
    the time and couldn't keep the left overs very long. There are times now
    that I'd use a full batch but just buy a jar so I don't have to worry
    about the raw egg factor.

    Relatively few of the places would deserve the title of restaurant - more snacky places and specialty retailers
    in little stalls the size of your trailer.
    Sort of like a mall's food court?
    Not quite that bad!
    OooooooooooooooooKay......................

    All right, not nearly that bad, but with the
    authentic odor of cheese, charcuterie, spilled
    meat juices, pickle juices, and so on.

    IOW, not a place to frequently patronise.


    I don't use flour and other than heating the vinegar
    with the onions (optionally) and celery (very optional),
    and crisping the bacon, there'd be no cooking to thicken
    or to fix the flour. But I use a lot of bacon fat.
    I think my mom got the recipe from her Betty Crocker cook book (have
    to > check when I get home; I've got the same one). It's close enough
    to some > I had in Germany that it works. Much better than the canned Reid's
    GPS--their dressing is nowhere near the flavor of what I'm used to (being polite about it). (G)

    I'm not familiar with Reid's. Too sweet, is it?

    TBH, it's been so long since I bought a can, I don't remember. Just that
    it did not taste as good as the home made, by a long shot. Maybe we can
    do a taste test at the picnic if I can find a can of it.

    Lime juice would do well if one used the
    Miracle Whippy type dressing. Nutmeg I
    almost commented disparagingly about but
    didn't, giving Fred the benefit of the doubt
    for once.
    Take it with a grain of salt?

    That's all I can afford.

    Better than needing half the shaker or more.

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    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Wednesday, August 08, 2018 20:36:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Ruth Haffly on 08-05-18 14:24 <=-

    I don't use flour and other than heating the vinegar
    with the onions (optionally) and celery (very optional),
    and crisping the bacon, there'd be no cooking to thicken
    or to fix the flour. But I use a lot of bacon fat.
    I think my mom got the recipe from her Betty Crocker cook book (have to check when I get home; I've got the same one). It's close enough to some
    I had in Germany that it works. Much better than the canned Reid's GPS--their dressing is nowhere near the flavor of what I'm used to
    (being polite about it). (G)
    I'm not familiar with Reid's. Too sweet, is it?

    I think she's meaning Read's... at least that's the only common brand of
    canned salads I'm aware of...

    ttyl neb

    ... Yeasties eat sugar and whiz into the swimming pool to make your booze.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Saturday, August 11, 2018 17:40:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Michael Loo on 08-07-18 11:32 <=-

    Depends on the mayo; I've found some good ones. Duke's was good
    until they started putting a preservative in it. I've a jar of
    Cain's in use right now. Just keep the Miracle Whip out of my
    house please.
    Cain's, despite its "localness," never was my thing. I put
    it on a par with Hellmann's, though perhaps it wasn't as tart.
    That's to say okay in a pinch but with a certain nastiness
    that real doesn't have. I avoided Duke's, but that was because
    when I encountered it, I avoided all mayonnaise, no exceptions.

    I tried making my own years ago, found it made too much for the need
    at the time and couldn't keep the left overs very long. There are times now that I'd use a full batch but just buy a jar so I don't have to
    worry about the raw egg factor.

    I made my own at one time, too... and as I remember, we always managed
    to use it up fairly quickly... :)

    I think my mom got the recipe from her Betty Crocker cook book
    (have to check when I get home; I've got the same one). It's close
    enough to some I had in Germany that it works. Much better than
    the canned Reid's GPS--their dressing is nowhere near the flavor
    of what I'm used to (being polite about it). (G)
    I'm not familiar with Reid's. Too sweet, is it?

    TBH, it's been so long since I bought a can, I don't remember. Just
    that it did not taste as good as the home made, by a long shot. Maybe
    we can do a taste test at the picnic if I can find a can of it.

    If you mean Read's German Potato Salad, that's readily available at
    Wegmans... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Apartment building blew up. Roomers were flying!

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Monday, August 13, 2018 16:18:39
    Hi Nancy,

    that real doesn't have. I avoided Duke's, but that was because
    when I encountered it, I avoided all mayonnaise, no exceptions.

    I tried making my own years ago, found it made too much for the need
    at the time and couldn't keep the left overs very long. There are times now that I'd use a full batch but just buy a jar so I don't have to
    worry about the raw egg factor.

    I made my own at one time, too... and as I remember, we always managed
    to use it up fairly quickly... :)

    Maybe I'll give it a try again when we need a good quantity.


    I think my mom got the recipe from her Betty Crocker cook book
    (have to check when I get home; I've got the same one). It's
    close RH>> enough to some I had in Germany that it works. Much better than
    the canned Reid's GPS--their dressing is nowhere near the flavor
    of what I'm used to (being polite about it). (G)
    I'm not familiar with Reid's. Too sweet, is it?

    TBH, it's been so long since I bought a can, I don't remember. Just
    that it did not taste as good as the home made, by a long shot. Maybe
    we can do a taste test at the picnic if I can find a can of it.

    If you mean Read's German Potato Salad, that's readily available at Wegmans... :)

    Michael nixed the idea of a taste off at the picnic. I understand, as
    I'd rather have the home made over the canned. I knew it was Read's but
    just blanked on the spelling. Had gotten some Reid's cinnamon life
    savers a couple of days before....................

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Thursday, August 16, 2018 16:42:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 08-13-18 16:18 <=-

    that real doesn't have. I avoided Duke's, but that was because
    when I encountered it, I avoided all mayonnaise, no exceptions.
    I tried making my own years ago, found it made too much for the
    need at the time and couldn't keep the left overs very long. There
    are times now that I'd use a full batch but just buy a jar so I
    don't have to worry about the raw egg factor.
    I made my own at one time, too... and as I remember, we always
    managed to use it up fairly quickly... :)

    Maybe I'll give it a try again when we need a good quantity.

    I always found it worth doing... :)

    I think my mom got the recipe from her Betty Crocker cook book
    (have to check when I get home; I've got the same one). It's
    close enough to some I had in Germany that it works. Much better
    than the canned Reid's GPS--their dressing is nowhere near the
    flavor of what I'm used to (being polite about it). (G)
    I'm not familiar with Reid's. Too sweet, is it?
    TBH, it's been so long since I bought a can, I don't remember.
    Just that it did not taste as good as the home made, by a long shot.
    Maybe we can do a taste test at the picnic if I can find a can of it.
    If you mean Read's German Potato Salad, that's readily available at
    Wegmans... :)

    Michael nixed the idea of a taste off at the picnic. I understand, as
    I'd rather have the home made over the canned. I knew it was Read's
    but just blanked on the spelling. Had gotten some Reid's cinnamon life savers a couple of days before....................

    That's enough to be confusing... (G)

    ttyl neb

    ... Whatever it was in Italy it will be something else in New York.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Friday, August 17, 2018 20:32:35
    Hi Nancy,

    that real doesn't have. I avoided Duke's, but that was because
    when I encountered it, I avoided all mayonnaise, no exceptions.
    I tried making my own years ago, found it made too much for the
    need at the time and couldn't keep the left overs very long.
    There RH>> are times now that I'd use a full batch but just buy a jar
    so I
    don't have to worry about the raw egg factor.
    I made my own at one time, too... and as I remember, we always
    managed to use it up fairly quickly... :)

    Maybe I'll give it a try again when we need a good quantity.

    I always found it worth doing... :)

    If I didn't have a good quality one available, I'd be more apt to
    consider it. Now, it's a "do I want to take the time/effort or do I want
    to use the time/effort otherwise?" sort of question.

    I think my mom got the recipe from her Betty Crocker cook book
    (have to check when I get home; I've got the same one). It's
    close enough to some I had in Germany that it works. Much
    better RH>>> than the canned Reid's GPS--their dressing is nowhere
    near the
    flavor of what I'm used to (being polite about it). (G)
    I'm not familiar with Reid's. Too sweet, is it?
    TBH, it's been so long since I bought a can, I don't remember.
    Just that it did not taste as good as the home made, by a long
    shot. RH>> Maybe we can do a taste test at the picnic if I can find a
    can of it. NB>> If you mean Read's German Potato Salad, that's
    readily available at NB>> Wegmans... :)

    Michael nixed the idea of a taste off at the picnic. I understand, as
    I'd rather have the home made over the canned. I knew it was Read's
    but just blanked on the spelling. Had gotten some Reid's cinnamon life savers a couple of days before....................

    That's enough to be confusing... (G)

    Quite, especially when the mind is focused on several other trains of
    thought that need tending to.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Wednesday, August 22, 2018 20:27:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 08-17-18 20:32 <=-

    that real doesn't have. I avoided Duke's, but that was because
    when I encountered it, I avoided all mayonnaise, no exceptions.
    I tried making my own years ago, found it made too much for the
    need at the time and couldn't keep the left overs very long.
    There are times now that I'd use a full batch but just buy a jar
    so I don't have to worry about the raw egg factor.
    I made my own at one time, too... and as I remember, we always
    managed to use it up fairly quickly... :)
    Maybe I'll give it a try again when we need a good quantity.
    I always found it worth doing... :)

    If I didn't have a good quality one available, I'd be more apt to
    consider it. Now, it's a "do I want to take the time/effort or do I
    want to use the time/effort otherwise?" sort of question.

    Understood... I haven't made it for a long time now... but we don't use
    as much mayo as we used to back then, either... and I haven't a working
    blender anymore anyway... ;) Haven't really missed not having the
    blender, since I've not done anything that's really required one for
    ages... ;)

    I think my mom got the recipe from her Betty Crocker cook
    book (have to check when I get home; I've got the same one).
    It's close enough to some I had in Germany that it works.
    Much better than the canned Reid's GPS--their dressing is
    nowhere near the flavor of what I'm used to (being polite
    about it). (G)
    I'm not familiar with Reid's. Too sweet, is it?
    TBH, it's been so long since I bought a can, I don't remember.
    Just that it did not taste as good as the home made, by a long
    shot. Maybe we can do a taste test at the picnic if I can find a
    can of it.
    If you mean Read's German Potato Salad, that's
    readily available at Wegmans... :)
    Michael nixed the idea of a taste off at the picnic. I understand,
    as I'd rather have the home made over the canned. I knew it was
    Read's but just blanked on the spelling. Had gotten some Reid's
    cinnamon life savers a couple of days before....................
    That's enough to be confusing... (G)

    Quite, especially when the mind is focused on several other trains of thought that need tending to.

    Indeed. ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... Haggis is tasty and nutritious and only makes you fart a wee bit.

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Thursday, August 23, 2018 17:01:40
    Hi Nancy,

    I made my own at one time, too... and as I remember, we always
    managed to use it up fairly quickly... :)
    Maybe I'll give it a try again when we need a good quantity.
    I always found it worth doing... :)

    If I didn't have a good quality one available, I'd be more apt to
    consider it. Now, it's a "do I want to take the time/effort or do I
    want to use the time/effort otherwise?" sort of question.

    Understood... I haven't made it for a long time now... but we don't
    use as much mayo as we used to back then, either... and I haven't a working blender anymore anyway... ;) Haven't really missed not having
    the
    blender, since I've not done anything that's really required one for ages... ;)

    I have the blendeer, it's the time/effort/need that I consider for jobs
    like that.


    I think my mom got the recipe from her Betty Crocker cook
    book (have to check when I get home; I've got the same one).
    It's close enough to some I had in Germany that it works.
    Much better than the canned Reid's GPS--their dressing is
    nowhere near the flavor of what I'm used to (being polite
    about it). (G)
    I'm not familiar with Reid's. Too sweet, is it?
    TBH, it's been so long since I bought a can, I don't remember.
    Just that it did not taste as good as the home made, by a long
    shot. Maybe we can do a taste test at the picnic if I can find
    a RH>>> can of it.
    If you mean Read's German Potato Salad, that's
    readily available at Wegmans... :)
    Michael nixed the idea of a taste off at the picnic. I
    understand, RH>> as I'd rather have the home made over the canned. I
    knew it was
    Read's but just blanked on the spelling. Had gotten some Reid's
    cinnamon life savers a couple of days before....................
    That's enough to be confusing... (G)

    Quite, especially when the mind is focused on several other trains of thought that need tending to.

    Indeed. ;)

    Seems that's the way things usually run so I should be used to it. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Monday, August 27, 2018 21:42:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 08-23-18 17:01 <=-

    Maybe I'll give it a try again when we need a good quantity.
    I always found it worth doing... :)
    If I didn't have a good quality one available, I'd be more apt to
    consider it. Now, it's a "do I want to take the time/effort or do
    I want to use the time/effort otherwise?" sort of question.
    Understood... I haven't made it for a long time now... but we
    don't use as much mayo as we used to back then, either... and I
    haven't a working blender anymore anyway... ;) Haven't really
    missed not having the blender, since I've not done anything that's
    really required one for ages... ;)

    I have the blendeer, it's the time/effort/need that I consider for
    jobs like that.

    True, it's faster to just pull out the jar of mayo... but not as much
    fun... (G)

    If you mean Read's German Potato Salad, that's
    readily available at Wegmans... :)
    Michael nixed the idea of a taste off at the picnic. I
    understand, as I'd rather have the home made over the canned. I
    knew it was Read's but just blanked on the spelling. Had gotten
    some Reid's cinnamon life savers a couple of days before......
    That's enough to be confusing... (G)
    Quite, especially when the mind is focused on several other
    trains of thought that need tending to.
    Indeed. ;)

    Seems that's the way things usually run so I should be used to it. (G)

    One might think, but in practice, it often doesn't work out that
    way..... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... I'm of the faction that believes mushroom sandwiches are not burgers

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Tuesday, August 28, 2018 14:58:27
    Hi Nancy,

    Understood... I haven't made it for a long time now... but we
    don't use as much mayo as we used to back then, either... and I
    haven't a working blender anymore anyway... ;) Haven't really
    missed not having the blender, since I've not done anything
    that's NB>> really required one for ages... ;)

    I have the blender, it's the time/effort/need that I consider for
    jobs like that.

    True, it's faster to just pull out the jar of mayo... but not as much fun... (G)


    Not as much to clean up after either. (G)


    If you mean Read's German Potato Salad, that's
    readily available at Wegmans... :)
    Michael nixed the idea of a taste off at the picnic. I
    understand, as I'd rather have the home made over the canned. I
    knew it was Read's but just blanked on the spelling. Had gotten
    some Reid's cinnamon life savers a couple of days before......
    That's enough to be confusing... (G)
    Quite, especially when the mind is focused on several other
    trains of thought that need tending to.
    Indeed. ;)

    Seems that's the way things usually run so I should be used to it. (G)

    One might think, but in practice, it often doesn't work out that
    way..... ;)

    Mind over matter, but my mind doesn't always want to matter for certain
    topics. (G)

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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