Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 07-15-18 05:18 <=-

Ah, mutual annoyance, a great way to
maintain a relationship!

They indeed had what I call a bicker relationship... certainly not the
sort of relationship I'd want for myself.... but they stayed together
for many years of marriage, only ended by Grampa's death at (I think) 91
or so...

I've seen some such and don't understand how
the relationship survives. If someone treated
me the way some of these couples treat each other,
it would soon be an I'm outta here situation.

I wouldn't want to be in that situation, either... but the point is that apparently each of them is satisfied with that sort of relationship...
and both of them contribute to the (what you or I would see as) abuse...
my mom's youngest sister had such also with her husband, and a couple of
my sisters do as well... all, again, long-term stable marriages.... even
if I kept expecting things to just blow apart.... my parents had an
entirely different sort of relationship... :)

And could be accomplished with not that much
difficulty. One might even make a layer cake
with tomato sauce "raspberry" filling or an
extra layer of mashed taters between. If I did
it, it wouldn't be elaborate or artistic - just
your meatloaf in a loaf tin with potato frosting
and maybe some carrot decoration.

Sounds intriguing.... ;)

The secret would be ample onions and thyme in
the cake, thyme in the filling, and perhaps
garlic in the frosting.

I can imagine that taste.... :)

Especially as we ourselves become the older
members ... but where is the new generation
to follow in our footsteps and clean up?

I've wondered that on many an occasion myself....

In several contexts. How about Classical music?
Seems only the Asians take it seriously any more.

I'm seeing a broader spectrum of serious interest in Classical music
within the younger generations, but then this is a hotbed of music
instruction, with efforts to engage even inner city kids as well as the
rest in serious music study.... :)

According to Medscape, the incidence of
celiac disease is 0.5 to 1.26 percent, way
lower than the 2-5% reported for peanut
allergy and way, way, way below the worldwide
65% estimated (by the NIH) for lactose
intolerance. I generally don't allow for
gluten intolerants unless they (or more
usually their parents) remind me first.

Interestingly, I'm aware of more people with gluten issues than I am of those with peanut allergy... but that's probably mostly the population

If I compare celiac people I know with those
with nut allergies (unspecified), the numbers are
comparable.

Most nut allergies are more dramatic than many celiacs... but just in
our small church we have 3 very serious celiac cases, and another 3-4 or
so mild to fairly serious cases... sufficient that now the bread for
communion is all gluten-free... fortunately those that prepare, buy the good-quality bread... :) I've known a few others in different
settings... :)

around me.... that seems a bit high on the lactose, even for worldwide,
but I do know quite a few people with that, even in my small circles...

That's a worldwide figure. Considering that almost
all Africans and most Southeast Asians have this
condition, I'd have expected the number to be
higher if anything.

I suppose.

fake meat's not so great a thing either, AFAIC.... in the Buddha's Delight, I'd just as soon have the tofu cubes as the gluten balls... ;)

To me, ordinary tofu wouldn't go in this dish,
but fried tofu could substitute for the gluten,

I'd be happy enough with the fried tofu... ;)

Of the versions I've had, some kind of chewy
protein seems to be very important to the balance
of the dish. Also MSG, but people don't talk about
that. Sometimes this latter comes in through the
guise of seaweed, oyster sauce, fu ru, or similar.

Naturally occurring doesn't bother me so much... :)

ttyl neb

... Don't wreck a sublime chocolate experience by feeling guilty.

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