The tag line with #891 was the one the system pre-selected, pure
coincidence. I might have chosen it but the program did it for me. (G)

This sort of thing happens with some frequency here.

Steak and reasonable prices - makes me almost wish
we'd eaten at a Hoss's when we blasted through
Pennsylvania yesterday - we ended up having an
excellent but costly and of frozen food meal at
Bonefish Grill, 5 miles before we would have gotten
to a Hoss's on US15.

Sigh! You would have done a lot better at Hoss's. Did you not know you
were that close to one?

1. Maybe, maybe not. 2. Definitely not until
after the fact.

Something for nothing always struck me as
somewhat unfair, whereas something for almost
nothing or just a token payment takes away
some of the shame or whatever it is.

Helps both of us out in the long run.

Depends on the magnitude of the something.

I don't know the origins of this place but our daughter and family have
only been in the SLC area for just short of 2 years. This may be the
closest they've found, so far, to a German restaurant in the area where
they live. It had an on site breweery, not that we cared to sample the products.

Well, weren't most of the LDS settlers of
Isles heritage (the way early mainstream
American Protestants were largely from
mainland Europe. I'd expect Mormon food
to be wholesome, sweet and salt, and boring
(as I've encountered it - though among the
younger set, there's a lot of use of cayenne
pepper, because that spice is said to be an
allowed natural stimulant).

Possibly hand cut but I think not. Didn't seem to be so.

Raggedy and jaggedy means hand-cut to me.

Possibly, but somebody wasn't paying attention to the cutting.

So no machine would have produced the effect.

Could she follow recipes? There are many without
a flair for the subject who do quite well with
expert aid within reading distance.

She could follow a recipe but the finished product seemed to lack
something still.

Negative talent is also a talent.

Concentrating on high traffic, which unless climate
change really accelerates means not Alaska.

It has been handy having it there, tho we prefer Costco overall.

Costco is pretty impressive in many ways.

Understandable; we've had some refuse the request.

That makes negative brownie points, the more
reasonable the request, the more minus.

True; it doesn't take much to slice up a few flour tortillas and toss
them into oil for a minute or so.

They might not have had flour tortillas, and
they would have used the same oil they'd used
to fry corn in earlier anyway.

It's one of the few times I will go for the carbs--just to hold the burger and toppings reasonably together. Harder to eat them together

if > you have them all spread out on a plate. (G)
I have just two words for you - knife and fork.

I've done that also, many times.

Q.E.D., I guess.

She needs to take the cure of one or two glasses
of wine a day rather than three or four. Also, there
is the issue of chronic debilitating disease to worry
about. We're back in the US now, and I've abandoned
her to her own devices for 2 weeks, after which we
move in the Swisher direction. I hope she remembers
her doctor's appointment.

Does she appreciate others reminding her of appointments and such like?
If you're in semi regular contact, a note, as part of an e-mail should
help. Voice contact--a "don't forget you're scheduled for...." might be enough of a reminder. Hopefully she's concerned enough about her health
that she won't forget.

As with me, it would likely backfire.

Not on the piano, unless it's out of tune
to begin with.

Which is easy enough to occur.

But don't shoot the piano player, anyhow not
for being out of tune.

I won't shoot the piano player, nor the player piano.

There have been piano players I've been
tempted to strangle, though.

To me cilantro isn't particularly bitter,
just kind of gross tasting.

I'll take small amounts of it. Sad to say tho, some cooks think that if
a little is good, a lot is better. Most of the time we'll ask the waiter
(or waitress) about the amount used, especially if the menu is vague.

That way of thinking works with few ingredients,
mostly garlic.

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Hi Michael,

The tag line with #891 was the one the system pre-selected, pure coincidence. I might have chosen it but the program did it for me.

(G)

This sort of thing happens with some frequency here.

And sometimes you don't even get to select--the program just sends you
on to the next message. I've noticed it more with this computer than the
one I had before.

Steak and reasonable prices - makes me almost wish
we'd eaten at a Hoss's when we blasted through
Pennsylvania yesterday - we ended up having an
excellent but costly and of frozen food meal at
Bonefish Grill, 5 miles before we would have gotten
to a Hoss's on US15.

Sigh! You would have done a lot better at Hoss's. Did you not know

you > were that close to one?

1. Maybe, maybe not. 2. Definitely not until
after the fact.

Sigh!

Something for nothing always struck me as
somewhat unfair, whereas something for almost
nothing or just a token payment takes away
some of the shame or whatever it is.

Helps both of us out in the long run.

Depends on the magnitude of the something.

True, but most of the time a small something means a lot.

I don't know the origins of this place but our daughter and family

have > only been in the SLC area for just short of 2 years. This may
be the

closest they've found, so far, to a German restaurant in the area

where > they live. It had an on site breweery, not that we cared to
sample the > products.

Well, weren't most of the LDS settlers of
Isles heritage (the way early mainstream
American Protestants were largely from
mainland Europe. I'd expect Mormon food
to be wholesome, sweet and salt, and boring
(as I've encountered it - though among the
younger set, there's a lot of use of cayenne
pepper, because that spice is said to be an
allowed natural stimulant).

We saw a good number of ethnic places, ate in a Hawaiian one one day we
were there. Didn't get to try a Greek or Middle Eastern place this trip,
maybe next time. The Italian one we ate at had an ok calamari (I wasn't impressed with the marinara sauce.) but the chicken Caesar salad was a
big disappointment. But, we've only begin to find out what's available
in the area for eats.

Possibly hand cut but I think not. Didn't seem to be so.

Raggedy and jaggedy means hand-cut to me.

Possibly, but somebody wasn't paying attention to the cutting.

So no machine would have produced the effect.

Someone not paying attention to the machine could have done likewise.

Could she follow recipes? There are many without
a flair for the subject who do quite well with
expert aid within reading distance.

She could follow a recipe but the finished product seemed to lack something still.

Negative talent is also a talent.

This wasn't a talent.

Concentrating on high traffic, which unless climate
change really accelerates means not Alaska.

It has been handy having it there, tho we prefer Costco overall.

Costco is pretty impressive in many ways.

Quite so.

Understandable; we've had some refuse the request.

That makes negative brownie points, the more
reasonable the request, the more minus.

True; it doesn't take much to slice up a few flour tortillas and

toss > them into oil for a minute or so.

They might not have had flour tortillas, and
they would have used the same oil they'd used
to fry corn in earlier anyway.

The oil wouldn't have bothered Steve, unless it was corn oil. He can
take corn starch in foods; we've not isolated corn oil to test its
effects.

It's one of the few times I will go for the carbs--just to

hold the > ML> > burger and toppings reasonably together. Harder to
eat them together > ML> if > you have them all spread out on a plate.
(G)

I have just two words for you - knife and fork.

I've done that also, many times.

Q.E.D., I guess.

All comes out in the wash.

She needs to take the cure of one or two glasses
of wine a day rather than three or four. Also, there
is the issue of chronic debilitating disease to worry
about. We're back in the US now, and I've abandoned
her to her own devices for 2 weeks, after which we
move in the Swisher direction. I hope she remembers
her doctor's appointment.

Does she appreciate others reminding her of appointments and such

like? > If you're in semi regular contact, a note, as part of an
e-mail should > help. Voice contact--a "don't forget you're scheduled for...." might be > enough of a reminder. Hopefully she's concerned
enough about her health > that she won't forget.

As with me, it would likely backfire.

So hopefully she's improving.

Not on the piano, unless it's out of tune
to begin with.

Which is easy enough to occur.

But don't shoot the piano player, anyhow not
for being out of tune.

I won't shoot the piano player, nor the player piano.

There have been piano players I've been
tempted to strangle, though.

Agreed. (G)

To me cilantro isn't particularly bitter,
just kind of gross tasting.

I'll take small amounts of it. Sad to say tho, some cooks think that

if > a little is good, a lot is better. Most of the time we'll ask the waiter > (or waitress) about the amount used, especially if the menu
is vague.

That way of thinking works with few ingredients,
mostly garlic.

I'd rather have too much garlic than too much cilantro.

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Ruth
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On 06-23-18 14:43, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Michael Loo about 909 various was picnic <=-

We saw a good number of ethnic places, ate in a Hawaiian one one day

Curious, I cannot say that I have ever seen a Hawaiian Restaurant in the
lower 48. How was it?

That way of thinking works with few ingredients,
mostly garlic.

I'd rather have too much garlic than too much cilantro.

As some would say, there is no such thing as too much garlic -- but it
can be over done. OTOH, almost any cilantro is too much cilantro.

MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

Title: Kielbasa Skillet Stew
Categories: Sausage, Main dish
Yield: 6 Servings

5 Bacon strips
1 Onion; (med) chopped
1 1/2 lb Kielbasa; smoked, fully -
-cooked -thinly sliced
2 Cans (15-1/2 oz each) great
-northern beans; undrained
16 oz Tomato sauce
4 oz Green chilies; chopped
2 Carrots; (med) thinly sliced
1/2 Green pepper; chopped
1/2 ts Italian seasoning
1/2 ts Dried thyme
1/8 ts Pepper

In a 12 inch skillet, cook bacon until crisp; remove to paper towel to
drain. In drippings, cook onion and sausage until the onion is
tender; drain. Stir in remaining ingredients; bring to a boil.
Reduce heat; cover and simmer for 45 minutes or until vegetables are
tender, stirring occasionally. Crumble bacon and sprinkle on top.
Yield: 6-8 servings.

From Taste of Home magazine Feb/Mar '95 issue.

Formatted for MM by Pegg Seevers 2/4/95
From: Lyn Ortiz Date: 12-04-96
Cooking

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Hi Dale,

On 06-23-18 14:43, Ruth Haffly <=-
spoke to Michael Loo about 909 various was picnic <=-

We saw a good number of ethnic places, ate in a Hawaiian one one day

Curious, I cannot say that I have ever seen a Hawaiian Restaurant in
the lower 48. How was it?

Pretty good, very much like a plate lunch you would get over there.
Complete with both a scoop of rice and a scoop of mac (macaroni) salad.
Didn't see some things on the menu that we saw in the Hawaiian place we
went to quite often in LV, NV but still..............Also, soy sauce on
the table was not the expected in HI Aloha Shoyu Gold but, IIRC, just
Kikkuman.

Basically, Hawaiian mac salad is just elbow macaroni, grated carrots and
mayo. Some places added other stuff, the most notable that I saw over
there was at a KFC. They combined mac and potato salads into one on
their menu. Interesting, but better served separately IMO.

That way of thinking works with few ingredients,
mostly garlic.

I'd rather have too much garlic than too much cilantro.

As some would say, there is no such thing as too much garlic -- but it
can be over done. OTOH, almost any cilantro is too much cilantro.

Agreed. Went to one place with our SIL and grandkids--one kid ordered
the garlic fries. They weren't as loaded with garlic as the ones at the
UH games, should have asked if they could be ordered with extra garlic.
I tasted a couple; they needed more garlic. (G)

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Ruth
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Re: 909 various was picn
By: Ruth Haffly to Dale Shipp on Tue Jun 26 2018 02:45 pm

Basically, Hawaiian mac salad is just elbow macaroni, grated carrots and mayo. Some places added other stuff, the most notable that I saw over there was at a KFC. They combined mac and potato salads into one on
their menu. Interesting, but better served separately IMO.

Yup, Hawaiian Mac salad is a simple comfort food and quite plain. At the foot of my street (Kuilea) there was a mom-n-pop store with a butcher, deli and veggie section. They made a slightly fancier version by adding some shoppped green onion and dressed it with small red onion rings and a couple of pickles.

xxcarol
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Hi Carol,

Basically, Hawaiian mac salad is just elbow macaroni, grated carrots and mayo. Some places added other stuff, the most notable that I saw over there was at a KFC. They combined mac and potato salads into one on
their menu. Interesting, but better served separately IMO.

Yup, Hawaiian Mac salad is a simple comfort food and quite plain. At
the foot of my street (Kuilea) there was a mom-n-pop store with a
butcher, deli and veggie section. They made a slightly fancier
version by adding some shoppped green onion and dressed it with small
red onion rings and a couple of pickles.

I saw minor variations thru out the state, seemed everybody's tutu (grandmother) had her own twist on it. But, I liked it then, like it now
with kalua pig. Had some white rice the other day, forget what it came
with but I grabbed the bottle of soy sauce and added a bit. Still have
that bit of HI in me. (G)

Any chance you will be able to make it up to NY for the picnic in
September?

---
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Ruth
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Re: 909 various was picn
By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Thu Jul 19 2018 09:56 pm

Basically, Hawaiian mac salad is just elbow macaroni, grated carrots
and mayo. Some places added other stuff, the most notable that I saw

Yup, Hawaiian Mac salad is a simple comfort food and quite plain.
At the foot of my street (Kuilea) there was a mom-n-pop store with a
butcher, deli and veggie section. They made a slightly fancier
version by adding some shoppped green onion and dressed it with
small red onion rings and a couple of pickles.

I saw minor variations thru out the state, seemed everybody's tutu (grandmother) had her own twist on it. But, I liked it then, like it now with kalua pig. Had some white rice the other day, forget what it came
with but I grabbed the bottle of soy sauce and added a bit. Still have
that bit of HI in me. (G)

BTW, in Japan, it's considered rude to actually pour soy over rice. They dip it instead with their chopsticks. Odd but true. Dipping bowl used.

Any chance you will be able to make it up to NY for the picnic in
September?

Not really sure yet! What is the date? NY is difficult for me now if not near an airport and I seem to recall this location was a 4 hour drive from the nearest airport?

xxcarol
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Hi Carol,

Yup, Hawaiian Mac salad is a simple comfort food and quite

plain. CS>> At the foot of my street (Kuilea) there was a mom-n-pop

I saw minor variations thru out the state, seemed everybody's tutu (grandmother) had her own twist on it. But, I liked it then, like it now with kalua pig. Had some white rice the other day, forget what it came
with but I grabbed the bottle of soy sauce and added a bit. Still have
that bit of HI in me. (G)

BTW, in Japan, it's considered rude to actually pour soy over rice.
They dip it instead with their chopsticks. Odd but true. Dipping
bowl used.

I have problems with the wrist--doesn't like to bend--and hand--some
nerve damage--so use a fork instead of chopsticks. Might make it harder
to dip smaller bits of rice, especially if it's a communal bowl.

Any chance you will be able to make it up to NY for the picnic in
September?

Not really sure yet! What is the date? NY is difficult for me now if
not near an airport and I seem to recall this location was a 4 hour
drive from the nearest airport?

No, actually this is an hour (maybe 2, tops) from the Rochester airport. Probably a bit further from Syracuse but no way is it 4 hours. Even if
you had to fly into Buffalo you would still be there in under 3 hours.
Dates are September 7-9, with people probably starting to arrive by the afternoon/evening of the 6th. It's the week end after Labor Day so you
would not be contending with that traffic.

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Re: 909 various was picn
By: Ruth Haffly to Carol Shenkenberger on Fri Jul 20 2018 08:09 pm

Any chance you will be able to make it up to NY for the picnic in
September?

Not really sure yet! What is the date? NY is difficult for me now
if not near an airport and I seem to recall this location was a 4
hour drive from the nearest airport?

No, actually this is an hour (maybe 2, tops) from the Rochester airport. Probably a bit further from Syracuse but no way is it 4 hours. Even if
you had to fly into Buffalo you would still be there in under 3 hours.
Dates are September 7-9, with people probably starting to arrive by the afternoon/evening of the 6th. It's the week end after Labor Day so you
would not be contending with that traffic.

Ah, I mixed it with a different trip some years back.

xxcarol
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Hi Carol,

Any chance you will be able to make it up to NY for the picnic in
September?

Not really sure yet! What is the date? NY is difficult for me

now CS>> if not near an airport and I seem to recall this location
was a 4 CS>> hour drive from the nearest airport?

No, actually this is an hour (maybe 2, tops) from the Rochester airport. Probably a bit further from Syracuse but no way is it 4 hours. Even if
you had to fly into Buffalo you would still be there in under 3 hours.
Dates are September 7-9, with people probably starting to arrive by the afternoon/evening of the 6th. It's the week end after Labor Day so you
would not be contending with that traffic.

Ah, I mixed it with a different trip some years back.

OK, so I saw Nancy's post to you--does that make the picnic more do-able
for you?

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