• 856 re donuts

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Monday, June 11, 2018 04:18:34
    Some of the big chains (think Clown and Royalty) have
    made a big thing of using only white meat in their
    chicken products. That alone would ensure my not getting
    any of them there.
    Likewise... It's struck me that white chicken, like white bread, has had connotations of "coming up in society", but always seemed misguided, as sturdy "brown" bread and dark meat chicken are so much preferable... :)

    Whiteness and pure goodness, darkness and
    earthy corruption. Racism in food. But
    sometimes things backfire, as in the
    southeast Asian beriberi phenomenon, where
    eating unprocessed rice with the bran
    protected against vitamin B deficiency,
    so the lower classes thrived and the
    mercantile (largely of Chinese origin)
    died in droves.

    In the Dunkin case, it was no doubt expedient
    to toss them until Mr. Bolaffi found a way to
    make them into a profit generator.
    Possibly having seen the like in some little donut shop... (G)
    Possibly - I don't think something like that
    was patentable, even though the Cronut has
    been (nothing of big interest or any creativity,
    by the way).
    Perhaps the name could be patented.... just not the item itself...

    The name could be trademarked, not patented.
    Effect similar, but details including length
    of protection quite different.

    She lives in an interesting kind of obscurity, in
    which people who know what she did look at her with
    some awe and respect but generally don't bother her.
    With the renaming of the Engineering school at RIT to Kate Gleason, and
    the push for encouraging female engineers there (my niece-daughter being
    one of them, in Mechanical engineering), I'd guess that would have been
    the context in which I'd've heard of her...

    A similar context to that in which I'd have
    heard of Kate Gleason.

    I know that Act exists.... It didn't stop Kodak from laying off people just before they'd reach their full retirement benefits... or countless other companies from not even acknowledging applications/resumes... And
    to fight it in the courts, the burden of proof is on the employee or applicant to prove that the major (or in some cases, only) reason for
    the layoff or non-hire was the age... the companies bring up all sorts
    of other things that counted in their decision, and get away with it...
    I wonder what happens when someone in the legal
    department approaches the magic 65.
    Interesting question... At Kodak, it was the magic 85... age plus years
    of service... Richard had 29 1/2 years of service, and was just under 55
    or so when he was laid off...

    Not the nicest thing in the world - similar
    to what happened to Bodle a couple decades ago.

    But over in these odd countries the job, no matter
    how lowly, is invested with some kind of dignity,
    which I see no evidence of here. Might be reflective
    of expectations made grandiose by the American
    mindset of upward mobility.
    Even here, it would depend somewhat on how much those grandiose
    expectations had become ingrained... and what circles one travels
    within...

    It's probably largely the upward striving at
    class borders, but I'm sure film, the news, and
    television have fueled unrealistic expectations
    as well.

    We supposedly get to the airport at 5:05, at the hotel
    before 6, plenty of time to take the tram to the opera
    house; if the flight is an hour late, we might have to
    take a taxi direct, but then it might be even more
    problematic getting out of a taxi in a demonstration.
    Hope it all works out sufficiently easily... :)

    We'll find out tomorrow.

    And it turned out that our Nuremberg host's
    b-i-l is a physician who came to Lilli's rescue
    when she had some of her weak spells in the last
    couple days.
    That was indeed fortunate... I trust she is doing better now...?

    Off and on, though a couple days ago she had to talk
    her way into the Cologne Zoo to use the bathroom.
    The guard was going to require the admission price
    as deposit, but then he saw me and said, he is your
    deposit, and I had a funnish 15 minutes chatting
    with him.

    Snowy strawberry cookie bites
    categories: odd
    servings: 8

    8 strawberries
    1/2 c thawed whipped topping
    1 Tb blue colored sugar
    8 Chips Ahoy cookies

    Dip bottom 2/3 of a strawberry in whipped
    topping. Dip bottom 1/3 in sugar. Spread
    remaining topping on cookies. Top cookies
    with prepared strawberries.

    Mondelez via Stater Brothers
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Tuesday, June 12, 2018 02:12:06
    On 06-11-18 04:18, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Nancy Backus about 856 re donuts <=-

    I wonder what happens when someone in the legal
    department approaches the magic 65.

    Interesting question... At Kodak, it was the magic 85... age plus years
    of service... Richard had 29 1/2 years of service, and was just under 55
    or so when he was laid off...

    Not the nicest thing in the world - similar
    to what happened to Bodle a couple decades ago.

    In Bodle's case, he was told that he satisfied the conditions for
    retirement pay -- but after he left service, his retirement was denied
    claiming that some six months of service did not count.

    In either case -- it sucks completely.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Blt Bites
    Categories: Appetizer, Cold
    Yield: 16 Servings

    16 Cherry Tomatoes (or 20)
    1 lb Bacon; cooked, crumbled
    1/2 c Mayonnaise or Salad Dressing
    1/3 c Green Onions; chopped
    3 tb Parmesan Cheese; grated
    2 tb Parsley; snipped

    Cut a thin slice off of each tomato top. Scoop out and discard pulp.
    Invert the tomatoes on a paper towel to drain.
    In a small bowl, combine all remaining ingredients; mix well.
    Spoon into tomatoes. Refrigerate for several hours.
    Yield: 16-20 appetizer servings

    Source: Taste of Home magazine, 93/08-09 NOTES
    : These quick hors d'oeuvres may be mini, but their bacon and tomato
    flavor is full size. I serve them for parties, brunches and picnics,
    and they're always a hit .. even my kids love them. - Kellie Remmen,
    Detroit Lakes, Minnesota

    Posted on Genie by C.SVITEK [cathy] 08/19/94: I made 8/19/94.
    Dad and Andy liked, easy thing to use up all the cherry tomatoes.
    I used regular onion and didn't use parsley. Would have been
    prettier with a little extra color.
    From: Lyn Ortiz Date: 12-04-96
    Cooking

    MMMMM


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Wednesday, June 13, 2018 13:18:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 06-11-18 04:18 <=-

    Some of the big chains (think Clown and Royalty) have
    made a big thing of using only white meat in their
    chicken products. That alone would ensure my not getting
    any of them there.
    Likewise... It's struck me that white chicken, like white bread, has had connotations of "coming up in society", but always seemed misguided, as sturdy "brown" bread and dark meat chicken are so much preferable... :)
    Whiteness and pure goodness, darkness and earthy
    corruption. Racism in food. But sometimes things
    backfire, as in the southeast Asian beriberi
    phenomenon, where eating unprocessed rice with
    the bran protected against vitamin B deficiency,
    so the lower classes thrived and the mercantile
    (largely of Chinese origin) died in droves.

    Indeed, and ecactly.... ;)

    In the Dunkin case, it was no doubt expedient
    to toss them until Mr. Bolaffi found a way to
    make them into a profit generator.
    Possibly having seen the like in some little donut shop... (G)
    Possibly - I don't think something like that
    was patentable, even though the Cronut has
    been (nothing of big interest or any creativity,
    by the way).
    Perhaps the name could be patented.... just not the item itself...
    The name could be trademarked, not patented.
    Effect similar, but details including length
    of protection quite different.

    Right. I knew that patent wasn't the right word, but all that was
    coming as an alternative was copyright, which I also knew was wrong...

    She lives in an interesting kind of obscurity, in
    which people who know what she did look at her with
    some awe and respect but generally don't bother her.
    With the renaming of the Engineering school at RIT to Kate Gleason, and
    the push for encouraging female engineers there (my niece-daughter being
    one of them, in Mechanical engineering), I'd guess that would have been
    the context in which I'd've heard of her...
    A similar context to that in which I'd have
    heard of Kate Gleason.

    Kate Gleason being a local celebrity as well....

    I know that Act exists.... It didn't stop Kodak from laying off people just before they'd reach their full retirement benefits... or countless other companies from not even acknowledging applications/resumes... And to fight it in the courts, the burden of proof is on the employee or applicant to prove that the major (or in some cases, only) reason for
    the layoff or non-hire was the age... the companies bring up all sorts
    of other things that counted in their decision, and get away with it...
    I wonder what happens when someone in the legal
    department approaches the magic 65.
    Interesting question... At Kodak, it was the magic 85... age plus years
    of service... Richard had 29 1/2 years of service, and was just under 55
    or so when he was laid off...
    Not the nicest thing in the world - similar
    to what happened to Bodle a couple decades ago.

    And not at all uncommon... they've developed schemes to make it seem as
    though they are complying with the Act, even when they really aren't...
    there was a sheet that came with the paperwork that "showed" that they'd
    not been using age as the determinant... they listed (without any real identifying marks) all the personnel they'd considered for layoffs,
    showing that they kept one and let the other go... Not that it fooled
    us any.... but it probably covered their butt....

    But over in these odd countries the job, no matter
    how lowly, is invested with some kind of dignity,
    which I see no evidence of here. Might be reflective
    of expectations made grandiose by the American
    mindset of upward mobility.
    Even here, it would depend somewhat on how much those grandiose
    expectations had become ingrained... and what circles one travels
    within...
    It's probably largely the upward striving at
    class borders, but I'm sure film, the news, and
    television have fueled unrealistic expectations
    as well.

    Quite possible.

    We supposedly get to the airport at 5:05, at the hotel
    before 6, plenty of time to take the tram to the opera
    house; if the flight is an hour late, we might have to
    take a taxi direct, but then it might be even more
    problematic getting out of a taxi in a demonstration.
    Hope it all works out sufficiently easily... :)
    We'll find out tomorrow.

    And....?

    And it turned out that our Nuremberg host's
    b-i-l is a physician who came to Lilli's rescue
    when she had some of her weak spells in the last
    couple days.
    That was indeed fortunate... I trust she is doing better now...?
    Off and on, though a couple days ago she had to talk
    her way into the Cologne Zoo to use the bathroom.
    The guard was going to require the admission price
    as deposit, but then he saw me and said, he is your
    deposit, and I had a funnish 15 minutes chatting
    with him.

    That worked out well enough, then.... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Self-made man: A horrible example of unskilled labour.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Wednesday, June 13, 2018 14:59:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Michael Loo on 06-12-18 02:12 <=-
    On 06-11-18 04:18, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Nancy Backus about 856 re donuts <=-

    I wonder what happens when someone in the legal
    department approaches the magic 65.
    Interesting question... At Kodak, it was the magic 85... age plus years
    of service... Richard had 29 1/2 years of service, and was just under 55
    or so when he was laid off...
    Not the nicest thing in the world - similar
    to what happened to Bodle a couple decades ago.

    In Bodle's case, he was told that he satisfied the conditions for retirement pay -- but after he left service, his retirement was denied claiming that some six months of service did not count.

    I think that's even worse.... At least Richard did get one year's
    severance pay to make things a little easier....

    In either case -- it sucks completely.

    Yup.

    ttyl neb

    ... Appetisers are those little bits you eat until you lose your appetite.

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