• 828 re donuts +

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Sunday, June 03, 2018 22:30:44
    Of course, by the time KK came to town, I had gotten
    over my previous addiction to donuts... ;)
    I always thought anyway that the Southern
    attachment to Krispy was a similar phenomenon
    to that for Chick Fil-A or hominy, but slightly
    less irrational.
    Could be... Hominy we never did cotton to... and, curiously, we now
    have a Chick Fil-A in our area... up on Ridge Rd, in Greece... Haven't
    been there yet, but with a rep for only white meat, there's not a lot of inducement for me... (G)

    Some of the big chains (think Clown and Royalty) have
    made a big thing of using only white meat in their
    chicken products. That alone would ensure my not getting
    any of them there.

    I'd expect so... :) Just didn't call them Munchkins, or introduce them
    to a large chain's offerings... ;)
    In the Dunkin case, it was no doubt expedient
    to toss them until Mr. Bolaffi found a way to
    make them into a profit generator.
    Possibly having seen the like in some little donut shop... (G)

    Possibly - I don't think something like that
    was patentable, even though the Cronut has
    been (nothing of big interest or any creativity,
    by the way).

    Another acquaintance of mine was on the development
    team of the first portable computer and is said to
    have invented telecommuting - she's become a sort
    of Internet celebrity because she fits into the
    role of inspiration-for-STEM-girls;
    At least she gets her due... :)
    She did and is reasonably well known, at
    least in the appropriate circles. Mary Wilkes
    is her name.
    I may have heard of her... :)

    She lives in an interesting kind of obscurity, in
    which people who know what she did look at her with
    some awe and respect but generally don't bother her.

    Oh, speaking of other people I know from that
    context, I got word that Nicholas died sometime
    this month. I was lucky to have seen him one
    last time in mid-April on my first trip this
    year to Boston.
    I'm sorry to hear that, but glad you had one last visit beforehand...

    There was always going to be one last visit, but
    this one was within a month or so, which makes me
    at least feel better.

    +

    There is that. Supposedly there's an Age
    Discrimination in Employment Act, but who
    knows whether it is getting undermined the
    way many social measures have been.
    I know that Act exists.... It didn't stop Kodak from laying off people
    just before they'd reach their full retirement benefits... or countless
    other companies from not even acknowledging applications/resumes... And
    to fight it in the courts, the burden of proof is on the employee or applicant to prove that the major (or in some cases, only) reason for
    the layoff or non-hire was the age... the companies bring up all sorts
    of other things that counted in their decision, and get away with it...

    I wonder what happens when someone in the legal
    department approaches the magic 65.

    Understood. I've seen much of the spectrum and can
    revert to the one end without pain. Some people,
    though, cannot.
    We've noticed that... particularly with people that had overextended themselves in the "good" years....
    One of the wisdoms is that you are
    supposed to insure against the seven
    lean years. I of course don't figure to
    last another seven years, so there.
    You could be surprised.... ;)

    It'll come as a surprise. Of course, if I'm not
    surprised, surely someone else will be.

    It has always amazed me at how people of lower
    job status can be induced to do their work
    cheerfully and well, though with the real or
    imagined influx of low-status immigrants putting
    pressure on that class, the relative tranquility
    is being upended.
    For some, just having a job is satisfaction in itself... no matter the
    job status...

    But over in these odd countries the job, no
    matter how lowly, is invested with some kind
    of dignity, which I see no evidence of here.
    Might be reflective of expectations made
    grandiose by the American mindset of upward
    mobility.

    Weinberg violin concerto, but Lilli informs me that
    Mondays and Tuesdays there are anti-immigrant
    demonstrations in front of the Opera House where
    the concert is being held; these are estimated at
    having 10000 to 20000 participants. She said,
    rather laconically, that that might increase our
    time getting to the concert hall.
    That it might... one might well leave plenty of extra time to allow for such... ;)

    We supposedly get to the airport at 5:05, at the
    hotel before 6, plenty of time to take the tram to
    the opera house; if the flight is an hour late,
    we might have to take a taxi direct, but then
    it might be even more problematic getting out of a
    taxi in a demonstration.

    by such simplicities as "pint's a pound the world
    around" even without the revision for accuracy
    "pint's a pound the world around except when it
    isn't," which would cause too much tsouris
    altogether.
    True... it can be a bit astonishing how little some have managed to assimulate over the years, despite being reasonably intelligent... :)
    Of course, they'd have issues with even the better stores, and be easily taken in by the traps... ;0
    But the traps are generally of higher quality
    at the better stores. I have seen such at Wegmans.
    I suppose... and some of them might not be sprung just because they are higher priced, and so not be bought...

    Of course one must remember that affluence
    doesn't mean untrappability.

    Yes, finally, and I shall not have to survive
    Germany without high blood pressure pills (I had
    a backup plan in the form of my Berlin friend
    Hans-Erich, who though he's just a psychiatrist and
    semi-retired at that, still can write prescriptions).
    Good that you had a backup plan... :) And even better that it got
    resolved before you had to leave.... :)

    And it turned out that our Nuremberg host's
    b-i-l is a physician who came to Lilli's rescue
    when she had some of her weak spells in the last
    couple days.

    New England cornbread
    categories: starch
    yield: 16 squares

    1 c stone-ground cornmeal
    1 c flour
    2 to 3 Tb sugar
    2 Tb baking powder
    1 ts baking soda
    1 ts salt
    1˙ c buttermilk
    2 eggs, lightly beaten
    4 Tb butter, meltedm cooled to room temperature

    Stone-ground cornmeal gives a remarkable texture and
    depth of flavor the processed meal can˙t approach.

    Put the oven rack on the middle shelf and preheat to 425F.

    Butter an 8 or 9" square pan (Pyrex is perfect).

    In a large bowl, mix together the cornmeal, flour, sugar,
    baking powder, baking soda and salt. In a smaller bowl
    lightly beat the eggs; stir in the buttermilk and finally
    the melted butter. Stir the wet ingredients into the dry
    mixture just enough to combine them, no more. Spoon the
    batter into the prepared pan and bake for 20 to 25 min,
    until the cornbread is done: A knife tip inserted in the
    middle should come out dry. Let the corn bread cool. Cut
    into squares and serve.

    Recipe by Elizabeth Gawthrop Riely
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Wednesday, June 06, 2018 14:05:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 06-03-18 22:30 <=-

    I always thought anyway that the Southern
    attachment to Krispy was a similar phenomenon
    to that for Chick Fil-A or hominy, but slightly
    less irrational.
    Could be... Hominy we never did cotton to... and, curiously, we now
    have a Chick Fil-A in our area... up on Ridge Rd, in Greece... Haven't
    been there yet, but with a rep for only white meat, there's not a lot of inducement for me... (G)
    Some of the big chains (think Clown and Royalty) have
    made a big thing of using only white meat in their
    chicken products. That alone would ensure my not getting
    any of them there.

    Likewise... It's struck me that white chicken, like white bread, has had connotations of "coming up in society", but always seemed misguided, as
    sturdy "brown" bread and dark meat chicken are so much preferable... :)

    I'd expect so... :) Just didn't call them Munchkins, or introduce
    them to a large chain's offerings... ;)
    In the Dunkin case, it was no doubt expedient
    to toss them until Mr. Bolaffi found a way to
    make them into a profit generator.
    Possibly having seen the like in some little donut shop... (G)
    Possibly - I don't think something like that
    was patentable, even though the Cronut has
    been (nothing of big interest or any creativity,
    by the way).

    Perhaps the name could be patented.... just not the item itself...

    Another acquaintance of mine was on the development
    team of the first portable computer and is said to
    have invented telecommuting - she's become a sort
    of Internet celebrity because she fits into the
    role of inspiration-for-STEM-girls;
    At least she gets her due... :)
    She did and is reasonably well known, at
    least in the appropriate circles. Mary Wilkes
    is her name.
    I may have heard of her... :)
    She lives in an interesting kind of obscurity, in
    which people who know what she did look at her with
    some awe and respect but generally don't bother her.

    With the renaming of the Engineering school at RIT to Kate Gleason, and
    the push for encouraging female engineers there (my niece-daughter being
    one of them, in Mechanical engineering), I'd guess that would have been
    the context in which I'd've heard of her...

    Oh, speaking of other people I know from that
    context, I got word that Nicholas died sometime
    this month. I was lucky to have seen him one
    last time in mid-April on my first trip this
    year to Boston.
    I'm sorry to hear that, but glad you had one last visit beforehand...
    There was always going to be one last visit, but
    this one was within a month or so, which makes me
    at least feel better.

    That's more what I meant... :)

    There is that. Supposedly there's an Age
    Discrimination in Employment Act, but who
    knows whether it is getting undermined the
    way many social measures have been.
    I know that Act exists.... It didn't stop Kodak from laying off people
    just before they'd reach their full retirement benefits... or countless other companies from not even acknowledging applications/resumes... And
    to fight it in the courts, the burden of proof is on the employee or applicant to prove that the major (or in some cases, only) reason for
    the layoff or non-hire was the age... the companies bring up all sorts
    of other things that counted in their decision, and get away with it...
    I wonder what happens when someone in the legal
    department approaches the magic 65.

    Interesting question... At Kodak, it was the magic 85... age plus years
    of service... Richard had 29 1/2 years of service, and was just under 55
    or so when he was laid off...

    It has always amazed me at how people of lower
    job status can be induced to do their work
    cheerfully and well, though with the real or
    imagined influx of low-status immigrants putting
    pressure on that class, the relative tranquility
    is being upended.
    For some, just having a job is satisfaction in itself... no matter the
    job status...
    But over in these odd countries the job, no matter
    how lowly, is invested with some kind of dignity,
    which I see no evidence of here. Might be reflective
    of expectations made grandiose by the American
    mindset of upward mobility.

    Even here, it would depend somewhat on how much those grandiose
    expectations had become ingrained... and what circles one travels
    within...

    Weinberg violin concerto, but Lilli informs me that
    Mondays and Tuesdays there are anti-immigrant
    demonstrations in front of the Opera House where
    the concert is being held; these are estimated at
    having 10000 to 20000 participants. She said,
    rather laconically, that that might increase our
    time getting to the concert hall.
    That it might... one might well leave plenty of extra time to allow for such... ;)
    We supposedly get to the airport at 5:05, at the hotel
    before 6, plenty of time to take the tram to the opera
    house; if the flight is an hour late, we might have to
    take a taxi direct, but then it might be even more
    problematic getting out of a taxi in a demonstration.

    Hope it all works out sufficiently easily... :)

    True... it can be a bit astonishing how little some have managed to assimulate over the years, despite being reasonably intelligent... :)
    Of course, they'd have issues with even the better stores, and be easily taken in by the traps... ;0
    But the traps are generally of higher quality
    at the better stores. I have seen such at Wegmans.
    I suppose... and some of them might not be sprung just because they are higher priced, and so not be bought...
    Of course one must remember that affluence
    doesn't mean untrappability.

    True.

    Yes, finally, and I shall not have to survive
    Germany without high blood pressure pills (I had
    a backup plan in the form of my Berlin friend
    Hans-Erich, who though he's just a psychiatrist and
    semi-retired at that, still can write prescriptions).
    Good that you had a backup plan... :) And even better that it got
    resolved before you had to leave.... :)
    And it turned out that our Nuremberg host's
    b-i-l is a physician who came to Lilli's rescue
    when she had some of her weak spells in the last
    couple days.

    That was indeed fortunate... I trust she is doing better now...?

    ttyl neb

    ... A chicken crossing the road is poultry in motion.

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