• 238 is shambolic + Sp

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Thursday, November 14, 2019 07:26:26
    And wins it kudos and accolades... :)
    It may not be lost on you that kudos and accolades
    aren't what the bankers and investors are looking for.
    As they are still privately held, they have less need of bankers and investors, and aren't beholden to shareholders... and the kudos and

    They indeed have just as much need of bankers as any
    other business. It's the rest of the parasites that
    they don't have to worry about.

    accolades, along with the customer service and good treatment of
    employees that garnered them, do keep up their customer base which does affect them more...

    For example, bankers are vitally interested in this.

    I made that mistake when I started investing right out
    of school: looked for the best reputations for quality
    and customer satisfaction, lost my shirt, and resolved
    ...
    Lately, our financial advisor has steered us to some mutuals made up of companies that pay attention to quality, sustainability and customer and employee satisfaction, as those have been doing better in the market
    than the usual run of the mill companies... The difference might be
    that these are mutual funds rather than straight stock...

    Straight stock gives you more exposure to risk, but the
    risks are the same. I have a bud who left the music biz
    in favor of touting socially responsible investing.
    Surprisingly, he has done quite well so far both for
    himself and his clients.

    You do tend to have a much smaller inventory... :)
    Living out of a suitcase does that. I do have a suit and
    several sportcoats in California and three or four suits
    in Massachusetts, but people including myself don't get
    to see them often.
    True on the living out of a suitcase... :) The suitcoats and such are
    stored for the occasions on which you'd have need for them, I'd think...

    There pretty much isn't any need for them any more.
    Two or three times a year I attend occasions that
    call for them, but loaners have always been available.
    This reminds me that this Christmastime I'm due to
    participate in a number of dinners that require jackets.
    I hope that they will be report-worthy.

    Good-natured tweaking, then.... :)
    More or less. You may have noticed that there's a lot
    of one-upsmanship going on in the music world.
    I've tried not to... as I tend to be more on the periphery... ;)

    Funny thing - the other main player was a very alpha
    sort of guy, so he got to bragging about his experiences,
    which were considerable, and it turned out that we had
    scads of people in common, so that potential conflict
    ended up becoming a sort of camaraderiefest.

    Growing up, we were served canned spinach fairly regularly...
    Somebody has to use the stuff. What interests me
    is that canned spinach and putrefied spinach
    smell pretty much the same.
    Never particularly noticed that... and not likely to buy a can just to
    check it out, either... ;)

    The smell is unforgettable. Just leave a handful of
    leaves in the bottom of your bag of spinach sometime
    and sniff it a couple weeks later, and you will note
    the kinship.

    it was somewhat mitigated by generally being served with a couple of slices of hard-boiled egg on top....
    If you had said bacon, I'd have understood somewhat.
    My parents were more stingy with bacon....

    Just a little bacon, that's all I ask.

    I get the frozen spinach to use on top of pizza (I nuke it first a little)... found that it worked better than trying to use fresh...
    I like how a few leaves of fresh spinach just sort of
    disappear into the goo of the pizza.
    As I'm making spinach ricotta pizza (just shredded cheese, ricotta and spinach on a crust, possibly some sausage crumbles and/or hot pepper
    flakes), there's less goo to disappear into... the fresh spinach tended
    to just dry up...

    In which case, of course precooking is a good idea.

    I think frozen spinach is one of those foods that
    are more nutritious frozen than fresh, too...
    By weight anyhow, but with stuff like spinach that's
    not the most valid comparison point.
    I thought it more about the bio-availability of the nutrients, not the
    amount per serving... I'd have to look it up, I guess...

    Guess what. Spinach, contrary to public opinion,
    is no nutrient powerhouse. The misconception stems
    from some otherwise careful German analysis having
    a misplaced decimal point in the Fe column. You
    could look it up.

    ... Traditions are group efforts to keep the unexpected from happening.
    Which goes to say that they have their uses, but not
    that many, and not that often.
    And not always all that effective, either... :)

    So true.

    Title: Rhubarb Banana Jam
    M's note: something tells me that traditional Mennonites
    didn't have bananas.
    Amish, maybe.... but the Mennonites did purchase some of their
    foodstuffs, like the sugar.... bananas would be available sometimes... I
    note that the rhubarb is cooked, so they wouldn't have to be in season
    at the same time...

    I'd be willing to believe it of oranges; bananas
    not so much.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v7.07

    Title: Lebanon County Rhubarb Jam
    Categories: Penn-dutch
    Servings: 1

    2 1/2 lb Rhubarb
    1 1/2 lb Sugar
    1/2 c Water
    2 Oranges, Rind & Juice Of

    Wash and skin the rhubarb and cut into small pieces; add sugar and 1/2
    cup
    of cold water. Grate the rind of the oranges and add to the rhubarb. Add
    the orange juice and cook for 30 minutes, stirring occasionally. Pour
    into
    sterilized jars and seal. Source: Pennsylvania Dutch Cook Book - Fine Old
    Recipes, Culinary Arts Press, 1936.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Friday, November 22, 2019 14:38:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 11-14-19 07:26 <=-

    And wins it kudos and accolades... :)
    It may not be lost on you that kudos and accolades
    aren't what the bankers and investors are looking for.
    As they are still privately held, they have less need of bankers and investors, and aren't beholden to shareholders...
    They indeed have just as much need of bankers as any
    other business. It's the rest of the parasites that
    they don't have to worry about.

    I suppose that bankers might be useful for certain of their operations,
    but it seemed to me that Danny and the girls were sufficiently
    independently wealthy that that would have been less needful than it
    would have been in more shoestring operations...

    and the kudos and accolades, along with the customer service and good treatment of employees that garnered them, do keep up their customer
    base which does affect them more...
    For example, bankers are vitally interested in this.

    It does bode well for the ability to promptly repay loans.... :) As
    well as keeping the business afloat and sailing nicely... :)

    I made that mistake when I started investing right out
    of school: looked for the best reputations for quality
    and customer satisfaction, lost my shirt, and resolved
    ...
    Lately, our financial advisor has steered us to some mutuals made up of companies that pay attention to quality, sustainability and customer and employee satisfaction, as those have been doing better in the market
    than the usual run of the mill companies... The difference might be
    that these are mutual funds rather than straight stock...
    Straight stock gives you more exposure to risk, but the
    risks are the same. I have a bud who left the music biz
    in favor of touting socially responsible investing.
    Surprisingly, he has done quite well so far both for
    himself and his clients.

    Another factor seems to be that the investing climate seems to have
    shifted somewhat, and also that the more socially responsible businesses
    are also making good decisions overall along with keeping to their
    ideals....

    You do tend to have a much smaller inventory... :)
    Living out of a suitcase does that. I do have a suit and
    several sportcoats in California and three or four suits
    in Massachusetts, but people including myself don't get
    to see them often.
    True on the living out of a suitcase... :) The suitcoats and such are stored for the occasions on which you'd have need for them, I'd think...
    There pretty much isn't any need for them any more.
    Two or three times a year I attend occasions that
    call for them, but loaners have always been available.
    This reminds me that this Christmastime I'm due to
    participate in a number of dinners that require jackets.
    I hope that they will be report-worthy.

    I hope so also.... both for the reports sake, and for your sake... :)

    Good-natured tweaking, then.... :)
    More or less. You may have noticed that there's a lot
    of one-upsmanship going on in the music world.
    I've tried not to... as I tend to be more on the periphery... ;)
    Funny thing - the other main player was a very alpha
    sort of guy, so he got to bragging about his experiences,
    which were considerable, and it turned out that we had
    scads of people in common, so that potential conflict
    ended up becoming a sort of camaraderiefest.

    Phewww! No need to one-up... there was common ground... a much more
    pleasant situation... :)

    Growing up, we were served canned spinach fairly regularly...
    Somebody has to use the stuff. What interests me
    is that canned spinach and putrefied spinach
    smell pretty much the same.
    Never particularly noticed that... and not likely to buy a can just to
    check it out, either... ;)
    The smell is unforgettable. Just leave a handful of
    leaves in the bottom of your bag of spinach sometime
    and sniff it a couple weeks later, and you will note
    the kinship.

    Another reason I usually buy frozen.... (G)

    it was somewhat mitigated by generally being served with a couple of slices of hard-boiled egg on top....
    If you had said bacon, I'd have understood somewhat.
    My parents were more stingy with bacon....
    Just a little bacon, that's all I ask.

    Bacon was for special occasions... and more expensive than eggs... Not
    that we got a lot of eggs, either.... ;)

    I get the frozen spinach to use on top of pizza (I nuke it first a little)... found that it worked better than trying to use fresh...
    I like how a few leaves of fresh spinach just sort of
    disappear into the goo of the pizza.
    As I'm making spinach ricotta pizza (just shredded cheese, ricotta and spinach on a crust, possibly some sausage crumbles and/or hot pepper flakes), there's less goo to disappear into... the fresh spinach tended
    to just dry up...
    In which case, of course precooking is a good idea.

    That's what I figured out... :)

    Title: Rhubarb Banana Jam
    M's note: something tells me that traditional Mennonites
    didn't have bananas.
    Amish, maybe.... but the Mennonites did purchase some of their
    foodstuffs, like the sugar.... bananas would be available sometimes... I note that the rhubarb is cooked, so they wouldn't have to be in season
    at the same time...
    I'd be willing to believe it of oranges; bananas
    not so much.

    I suppose one might do some research into period diaries or kitchen
    records to see what was available and/or used... :) Or ask at a
    Mennonite research center.... :)

    ttyl neb

    ... The answer is "maybe" ... and that's semi-final.

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