Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 11-08-19 00:56 <=-

You may be overestimating the talent pool as much as I'm underestimating it.

Possible... :)

I'm extrapolating from modern musical families, some of
which put together darned good ensembles, but most not
being so terrific, and also thinking of the realities
of 18th-century life; okay, some of the family might
have been able to get sounds out of a variety of
contrivances, but somebody had to mind the store, do
the laundry, slop the hogs, and when they got together
on Sunday, well, St. Martin in the Fields it wasn't.

I suspect you focus more on the not so terrific ones, where I'm willing
to focus on the good ensembles that come out of modern musical
families... ;)

I think there may not be a
permissible way of saying what you're aiming at.

That was precisely what I was figuring.... :)

Of course there may not be an articulable way in
real life either.

Unless I were to use the unpermissible way.... so, we'll let it drop...

They most likely are, but that doesn't mean that I'd necessarily be comfortable with the situation there... :)

The disturbing image is of cow patties in your milk,
which would be less of an actual health hazard.

I don't think that would be the case there.... but I have observed other indicators of general slovenliness at that farm (and at other properties owned by the same people)....

Out of the depths comes some pretty interesting stuff.
If it weren't for poor hygiene, there wouldn't be cheese,
especially washed-rind soft. Yogurt would likely have
been as close as one got.

There is that...

And that farm wasn't the one I was particularly thinking about before, either... but another one up in the North Country, where, if they met minimal standards, those standards were very minimal....but that one might in fact have been only personal use....

In that latter case, was your assesment as a result of
drive-by smelling?

No... I think I may have been close to that farm only once if that...

Ah, reputation then.

Mostly...

As in the households I've been part of, visual clutter did not
mean bad smells or other sign of possible hazard.

Which I find a little different from dairy farms... :)

Though I've tripped over my brother's detritus, so there
is a potential hazard.

Various sorts of hazard....

As I've mentioned, I had half hoped the place burned down.

That might have simplified some things.... Has the property sold...?

ttyl neb

... Wisconsin: Come smell our dairy air.

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