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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Monday, November 11, 2019 10:10:54
    I myself have in fact substituted a small dose of powdered
    ginger or bottled ginger juice, not quite as bad, where a
    substantial amount of the real stuff would have been
    much better, this for guests who preferred less spiced food.
    I could see it as a substitute, though a poor one... but just not having
    as much of the real thing would keep it less spicy...

    The powder adds some of the flavor without much of the
    bite that connoisseurs appreciate.

    Another possibility is Canton liqueur, but that's a little
    expensive for the purpose (for any purpose, actually).
    Is that a ginger liqueur...? I don't think I'd heard of it before...

    It's mostly ginger; been a while since I've seen it.

    left behind the real ginger.... Haven't ordered that there again....
    Leaving the ginger is acceptable, as is pushing those nice
    dried red hot peppers aside. You could make a request of the
    kitchen for lots of real ginger, now that you know that the
    normal recipe is changed.
    We considered that... we generally go there for dimsum instead, so
    haven't actually followed through...

    It remains a possibility. There are a lot of things
    you can do in restaurants to customize your meal,
    especially if you're regular and recognized there.

    Fortunately, we can get a very much better version of it at Coco Garden, with large and profuse slices of ginger as a vegetable... :)
    Well, then. Those cooks apparently don't compromise.
    Or at least think of ginger as a veggie instead of a spice.. :) When
    Cathy gets the ginger scallion fish, she hands over most of the ginger
    to me... makes us all happy... ;)

    One issue is that ginger is mostly harvested too
    old, so it's often not that pleasurable to chew
    on. Plus, if it's meant to be pushed aside, the
    cooks will often not bother to peel it.

    I've been known - not often - to binge eat. A half pound
    slab of halvah, a whole roast chicken, a full-size bag of
    chips or pistachios (the only nut). It could be worse -
    I could binge drink; now that would be problematic.
    If only once in a great while, shouldn't be that much of a problem.... :)

    When I do something stupid like that, my body
    tends to overheat, sometimes for quite a while,
    the result being that sleep may be compromised,
    and if there's anything I like better than food,
    it's sleeping.

    ... Two people can't stir what's in a saucepan at the same time.

    Could be done, just as a stunt of course.

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    Title: Grilled Tofu with Sesame Buckwheat Noodles & Ginger Veggies
    Categories: Chinese, Vegetarian, Pasta
    Servings: 6

    1/2 c Peanut oil
    1/2 c Sesame oil
    1/2 c Red wine
    1/4 c Mushroom soy sauce
    1/4 c Black vinegar
    6 Cloves garlic, minced
    1 ts Chinese five-spice powder

    A beautifully compose plate with many flavors and colors. Each component
    is placed on the plate separately, making three little groupings of
    bright
    and exciting tastes. The noodles and tofu can be made ahead, held at
    room
    temperature for an hour or so, leaving only the vegetables to be sauteed
    at
    the last minute.

    GRILLED TOFU MARINADE 4 "blocks" firm tofu

    Combine the marinade ingredients in a large bowl. Add the pieces of tofu
    and cover with the marinade. Let sit for 6 to 8 hours in the
    refrigerator
    or 3 hours at room temperature.

    Prepare charcoal grill.

    Remove the tofu from the marinade and drain slightly. Cook over med-hot
    red coals, basting frequently with the marinade. "Score" the tofu on
    both
    sides making a cross-hatch pattern. Cook until golden brown, about 5 to
    8
    minutes on each side. Remove from the grill and set aside.

    SESAME BUCKWHEAT NOODLES Sauce: 6 green onions, minced 4 cloves garlic,
    minced 3 Tbs miso, red or white 3" piece ginger, peeled and minced 2
    jalapeno peppers, minced 1/2 c sesame oil 1/2 c peanut oil 1/4 c seasoned
    rice wine vinegar 2 Tbs sherry vinegar 3 Tbs soy sauce salt and pepper to
    taste

    1 c sesame seeds, toasted 1 to 1 1/2 lb buckwheat noodles

    Combine the sauce ingredients in a large bowl. Add half the sesame
    seeds,
    mix well. Cook the noodles in salted boiling water until al dente;
    drain.
    Add the warm noodles to the sauce, toss and let sit for about 20 minutes.
    Taste and adjust seasonings.

    GINGER MIXED VEGETABLES

    1 yellow onion, wedge cut 2 cloves garlic, sliced thin 1/3 c peanut oil 6
    or 8 shiitake mushrooms, sliced 1/4" wide small handful snow peas,
    trimmed
    and strings removed 5" piece ginger, peeled and sliced very thin 1 head
    broccoli flowerets only, blanched 2 carrots, slivered and blanched splash
    of dry sherry salt and pepper, to taste cilantro sprigs for garnish

    To prepare the vegetables, saute the onion and garlic in some peanut oil
    over high heat until onion is tender, but not soft or translucent. Add
    the
    mushrooms, snow peas, and ginger. Cook over high heat, stirring
    constantly
    until the mushrooms are tender. Add the broccoli, carrots and sherry,
    cook
    for 1 more minutes and season with salt and pepper.

    To assemble: Cut the tofu into slices about 1/8" thick. On each plate,
    arrange 3 or 4 pieces of tofu overlapping each other. Spoon some of the
    noodles onto each plate and finish with the vegetables. The tofu and
    noodles are served at room temperature and the vegetables are served hot.
    Garnish with a sprig of cilantro.

    From "Glories of the Vegetarian Table" by Janet Hazen.

    Posted by Theresa Merkling.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Tuesday, November 19, 2019 18:53:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 11-11-19 10:10 <=-

    I myself have in fact substituted a small dose of powdered
    ginger or bottled ginger juice, not quite as bad, where a
    substantial amount of the real stuff would have been
    much better, this for guests who preferred less spiced food.
    I could see it as a substitute, though a poor one... but just not having
    as much of the real thing would keep it less spicy...
    The powder adds some of the flavor without much of the
    bite that connoisseurs appreciate.

    I guess... I used to cook with it, but haven't used it all that
    recently...

    Another possibility is Canton liqueur, but that's a little
    expensive for the purpose (for any purpose, actually).
    Is that a ginger liqueur...? I don't think I'd heard of it before...
    It's mostly ginger; been a while since I've seen it.

    I'll look out for it and see if I come across it... sounds
    interesting... :)

    left behind the real ginger.... Haven't ordered that there again....
    Leaving the ginger is acceptable, as is pushing those nice
    dried red hot peppers aside. You could make a request of the
    kitchen for lots of real ginger, now that you know that the
    normal recipe is changed.
    We considered that... we generally go there for dimsum instead, so
    haven't actually followed through...
    It remains a possibility. There are a lot of things
    you can do in restaurants to customize your meal,
    especially if you're regular and recognized there.

    That is true... and I do tend to do more of that at Fu's... ;)

    Fortunately, we can get a very much better version of it at Coco Garden, with large and profuse slices of ginger as a vegetable... :)
    Well, then. Those cooks apparently don't compromise.
    Or at least think of ginger as a veggie instead of a spice.. :) When
    Cathy gets the ginger scallion fish, she hands over most of the ginger
    to me... makes us all happy... ;)
    One issue is that ginger is mostly harvested too
    old, so it's often not that pleasurable to chew
    on. Plus, if it's meant to be pushed aside, the
    cooks will often not bother to peel it.

    We were just at Coco Garden today for lunch for Richard's birthday...
    another couple went with us, and we each got a lunch special, they got
    sambal beef and mango chicken, and we had the ginger scallion fish and malaysian eggplant... The ginger was, as usual, prolific and tasty...
    thin slices but nice and large and gingery, and easily chewed...
    obviously not meant to be pushed aside but to be savored along with the scallions and the fish... :)

    I've been known - not often - to binge eat. A half pound
    slab of halvah, a whole roast chicken, a full-size bag of
    chips or pistachios (the only nut). It could be worse -
    I could binge drink; now that would be problematic.
    If only once in a great while, shouldn't be that much of a problem.... :)
    When I do something stupid like that, my body
    tends to overheat, sometimes for quite a while,
    the result being that sleep may be compromised,
    and if there's anything I like better than food,
    it's sleeping.

    So I guess there's an in-built regulator there... :) Just have to
    remember the consequences sufficiently in time to scale back... ;)

    ... Two people can't stir what's in a saucepan at the same time.
    Could be done, just as a stunt of course.

    Somewhat like a piano duo that keeps changing parts in the
    performance....? ;) And/or getting up and running around the piano
    before returning to the playing...? (G)

    ttyl neb

    ... A chicken crossing the road is poultry in motion.

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