• wind and power

    From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Saturday, November 09, 2019 22:43:00

    Quoting Nancy Backus to Ruth Hanschka <=-

    The wind we've got tonight knocked out power

    We didn't lose power / but quite a few people in the area did...

    Semi-rhetorical question. Why aren't your power companies burying
    their lines instead of stringing them on poles? We stopped doing
    that years ago here depsite the high costs involved. (To trench here
    we have to blast through rock, not dig through soil.)

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    Title: Spinach Stuffed Squash
    Categories: Vegetables, Cheese
    Yield: 1 Servings

    12 md Yellow squash; firm
    2 x 10 oz pkg frozen spinach
    -chopped
    1 c Sour cream
    1 tb Butter
    Seasoned salt
    Black pepper
    Cracker crumbs
    Parmesan cheese; grated

    Cut squash in halves lengthwise; scoop out seeds and discard. Cook in
    salt water until tender. Cook spinach and drain well and squeeze out
    excess moisture. Combine spinach withsour cream, butter, salt, onion
    and pepper. Stuff squash; sprinkle with cracker crumbs and cheese.
    Bake at 325 F for 30 minutes.

    Recipe By: Telephone Pioneers - MS chapter

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    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Jim Weller on Monday, November 11, 2019 04:31:04
    On 11-09-19 22:43, Jim Weller <=-
    spoke to Nancy Backus about wind and power <=-

    The wind we've got tonight knocked out power

    We didn't lose power / but quite a few people in the area did...

    Semi-rhetorical question. Why aren't your power companies burying
    their lines instead of stringing them on poles? We stopped doing
    that years ago here depsite the high costs involved. (To trench here
    we have to blast through rock, not dig through soil.)

    In our community, the power lines are below ground. It was built
    starting in 1967. I'd expect that the infrastructure where Nancy, RH
    and RH live might have been older than that. Also, I'd expect that you
    would have a *LOT* more problems with strung power lines than most
    places in these more temporate climates.


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    Title: Spicy Beef and Rice Salad
    Categories: Main dish, Salad, Meats
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Beef top sirloin steak
    -(boneless), cut 1" thick
    2 ts Spicy Seasoning Mix*
    -- divided
    2 c Spicy cooked rice**
    1 md Red apple; cut into pieces
    3 Green onions; thinly sliced
    1/4 c Coarsely chopped walnuts
    -- toasted
    Leaf lettuce, optional

    Serves 4
    Preparation time: 30 min.

    1. Heat large nonstick skillet over medium heat 5 minutes. Meanwhile
    rub 1 teaspoon spicy seasoning into both sides of beef steak.

    2. Place steak in skillet and cook 12 to 14 minutes for rare (140F) to
    mudium (160 F), turning once.

    3. Season with salt, if desired.

    4. Meanwhile combine rice, apple, onions and walnuts.

    5. Carve steak into thin slices; arrange over rice mixture. Garnish
    with leaf lettuce and apple slices, if desired.

    *Spicy Seasoning Mix

    3 tablespoons chili powder
    2 teaspoons ground cumin
    1 1/2 teaspoons garlic powder
    3/4 teaspoon dried oregano leaves
    1/2 teaspoon ground red pepper

    Combine all ingredients. Store, covered in airtight container. Shake
    before using to blend. Yield: 1/3 cup.

    ** Cook 2/3 cup rice according to package directions; add 1 teaspoon
    Spicy Seasoning Mix to water before cooking.

    * COOKFDN brings you this recipe with permission from:
    * Texas Beef Council -- http://www.txbeef.org

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JIM WELLER on Tuesday, November 12, 2019 21:27:00
    Quoting Jim Weller to Nancy Backus on 11-09-19 22:43 <=-
    Quoting Nancy Backus to Ruth Hanschka <=-

    The wind we've got tonight knocked out power
    We didn't lose power / but quite a few people in the area did...

    Semi-rhetorical question. Why aren't your power companies burying
    their lines instead of stringing them on poles? We stopped doing
    that years ago here depsite the high costs involved. (To trench here
    we have to blast through rock, not dig through soil.)

    I think that some new lines may be being buried... but there's a lot of
    rather closely packed neighborhoods here in the city, and there's also
    the risk of people digging and cutting into the buried lines...
    Probably a lot of pluses and minuses both ways....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to NANCY BACKUS on Wednesday, November 13, 2019 13:00:48
    NANCY BACKUS wrote to JIM WELLER <=-

    The wind we've got tonight knocked out power
    We didn't lose power / but quite a few people in the area did...

    Semi-rhetorical question. Why aren't your power companies burying
    their lines instead of stringing them on poles? We stopped doing
    that years ago here depsite the high costs involved. (To trench here
    we have to blast through rock, not dig through soil.)

    I think that some new lines may be being buried... but there's a lot of rather closely packed neighborhoods here in the city, and there's also
    the risk of people digging and cutting into the buried lines...
    Probably a lot of pluses and minuses both ways....

    If you dig into a power line it can be quite a shock. We have a service
    called "JULIE" (I've no idea what the exact acronym translates as) asking people to "CALL 811 before you dig." The locator service is free to the
    home owner/contractor.

    In Spring-a-leak and near by new neighbourhoods have buried utilities.
    The older areas have poles and overhead wires - because no one wants to
    bite the expensive bullet and replace the existing infrastructure. So
    the tree trimmers turn otherwise nice trees into misshapen nightmares
    near the lines. Which doesn't help a lot if some over-served bozo on his
    way to elsewhere clips a power pole and sends a whole neighbourhood dark.

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    Title: Sticky Buns - Electric Bread
    Categories: Breads, Snacks
    Yield: 2 Loaves

    1 1/4 c Water
    3 c White Bread Flour
    2 tb Dry Milk
    3 tb Sugar
    1 ts Salt
    3 tb Butter
    2 ts Fast Rise Yeast
    +=OR=+
    3 ts Active Dry Yeast

    MMMMM------------------------STICKY SAUCE-----------------------------
    1/4 c Butter
    1/2 c Brown Sugar
    1/4 c Light corn Syrup
    1/2 c Pecan pieces

    MMMMM--------------------------FILLING-------------------------------
    1/3 c Soft Butter
    1 ts Cinnamon

    Remove dough from the machine after the dough or manual
    cycle is completed.

    Prepare sticky sauce by warming the sauce ingredients,
    except the pecans, over medium heat til sugar dissolves.
    Pour into 13" X 9" pan.

    Sprinkle with broken nuts. Turn dough out onto floured
    surface (it will be sticky), and punch down. Roll dough
    to a 16" X 10" rectangle. Dot w/soft butter & sprinkle
    with cinnamon.

    Roll jellyroll style and pinch seams together.

    Slice 1 1/2" thick pieces, place into pan on top of
    sticky sauce, and let double in size (about one hour).
    Bake @ 375°F/190°C for 20-25 minutes. Cool for no more
    than three minutes, then invert pan so sauce and nuts
    are on top of buns.

    This recipe is from ELECTRIC BREAD.

    Posted by: Robbie Shelton

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Wednesday, November 13, 2019 22:44:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Jim Weller <=-

    I'd expect that you would have a *LOT* more problems with
    strung power lines than most places in these more temporate
    climates.

    Yeah, two different ways ....

    We aren't tied into a grid and have just one single source for
    hydro, a dam on a river up north in the wilderness with high tension
    lines strung on towers going through muskeg (swamp) that is prone to
    severe frost heaving. If that line goes down we have a backup diesel
    generator in town but it takes a hour or so to fire up from a cold
    start.

    The other thing is that the domestic lines on poles in the older
    part of the city are just close enough together that a large raven
    can cause a short with its wings spread. We have outages caused by
    fried ravens fairly often. I don't know why the utility company
    doesn't re-string lines about 6 inches further apart.

    What we don't have are trees tall enough to have branches overhead
    above lines (we are just 150 miles south of the tree line and the
    trees here are stunted) or sleet and ice storms that make both lines
    and tree branches heavy enough to snap.

    Another style of pea dumpling:

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    Title: Swedish Potato And Pea Dumplings
    Categories: Scandinavia, Dumplings
    Yield: 12 servings

    FOR THE DUMPLINGS:
    300 g Potatoes
    300 g Frozen peas
    Sea salt
    2 md Eggs
    1/2 ts Freshly grated nutmeg
    325 g Potato flour
    FOR THE TOPPING:
    1 Knob of butter
    1 ts Ground allspice
    1 ts White pepper
    250 g Smoked streaky bacon, finely
    Chopped
    1 Onion, peeled and finely
    Chopped
    1 Handful of chopped fresh
    Chives
    Sugared lingonberries or
    Lingonberry jam

    They can be boiled or fried, filled or unfilled (and differ in other
    ways, depending on which regional variety you make. Smalandska
    dumplings sink when they are initially boiled and rise to the top
    when they are finished, whereas those from Oland, an island off the
    east coast of Sweden, do the opposite). Peas aren't usually added,
    but I like the way they give the otherwise grey-looking dumpling a
    lovely green pop. I've skipped the filling in this recipe, instead
    piling them high with a salty, sweet and spicy topping.

    Fill a large saucepan with cold salted water and peel the potatoes.
    Put the potatoes in the pan, bring to the boil and simmer for 15
    minutes or until tender, then drain and leave to cool slightly.

    Meanwhile, put the frozen peas into another pan with 1 tablespoon of
    water. Cover and cook for about 2 minutes, until just tender. Drain
    and blend to a smooth paste in a food processor. Finely grate the
    potatoes, then mix with a pinch of salt, the blitzed peas and eggs.
    Add the nutmeg and 300g of the flour and stir to combine, only
    adding more flour if you need it – the dough should be firm.

    Bring a large pot of water to the boil with a generous pinch of
    salt. While it's coming to the boil, roll the dough into a long
    sausage and cut into 12 equal pieces, then roll each one into a
    ball.

    Next, make the topping: put the butter into a large frying pan over
    a medium heat and add the spices, bacon and onion, cooking until the
    onion is crisp and golden. While the bacon and onion are frying, add
    the dumplings to the boiling water and cook for 5-10 minutes, or
    until they are firm but bounce back when touched. If you are unsure,
    cut one open: the dumpling should be cooked and hot all the way
    through.

    Serve immediately with a generous heap of the topping, a sprinkle of
    chopped chives and some sugared lingonberries or lingonberry jam.

    Get ahead / The dumplings can be frozen after they've been boiled.
    Plunge into boiling water to defrost and reheat.

    Recipe from my latest cookbook, The Little Swedish Kitchen.
    From: Www.Rachelkhoo.Com

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    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Saturday, November 16, 2019 23:12:00

    Quoting Nancy Backus to Jim Weller <=-

    Why aren't your power companies burying their lines

    there's a lot of rather closely packed neighborhoods here

    But you are already burying your sewer, water and natural gas lines.
    So why not power, telephone and cable?

    there's also the risk of people digging and cutting into the
    buried lines...

    Very small. It hasn't happened once here in 15 years whereas
    powerlines going down from wind, ice buildup or falling trees is at
    the very least an once a year affair in most places.

    Also the lines are protected by sturdy conduit.

    Something new to me that I plan to try:

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    Title: Chinese Velveting: An Introduction To Water-Velveting
    Categories: Chinese, Info
    Yield: 1 text file

    Velveting meat

    Velveting meat is a common practice in Chinese stir-fries: By
    marinating strips of meat with egg white and cornstarch, then
    dipping then in a hot oil bath before finally stir-frying them, the
    meat develops a texture that is tender, silky, and smooth.

    Typically, after the meat is marinated, it is quickly blanched in a
    bath of hot oil and then drained, at which point it's ready to be
    stir-fried. The end result is meat that's tender, silky, and smooth
    in texture. But while easy for restaurants, oil-blanching, also
    known as "passing through oil," can be cumbersome to do at home,
    since it requires using enough oil to fully cover the meat.

    My solution is to use a method called water-velveting instead.
    With water-velveting, you marinate the meat just as you would if it
    were being oil-blanched. But instead of briefly cooking it in hot
    oil, you blanch the meat in boiling water with a little bit of oil
    added to it.

    It's simple, quick, and much more home-kitchen friendly. The main
    question is whether there's a significant difference in taste and
    texture.

    The Water vs. Oil Test

    To test this out, I took slices of pork, chicken, and cod fish, and
    then marinated them in the standard velveting mixture of egg white,
    cornstarch, rice wine, and salt. Next, I blanched half of each type
    of meat using both the oil-blanching and water-blanching methods.

    For the pork and chicken, the taste and texture of the water- and
    oil-blanched samples were almost exactly the same. The only
    difference I noticed was that when I ran my finger along a piece of
    the water-blanched meat, sometimes a little bit of cornstarch and
    egg-white residue would come off. It's very minor, though, and after
    stir-frying, I could hardly see any difference. Stir-frying was all
    it took to make the residue disappear.

    For the cod fillets, the oil-blanched pieces were a little bit
    firmer than the water-blanched ones, but as long as you're a little
    more careful not to break the pieces up when stir-frying, I would
    still recommend water-blanching for the ease it provides.

    From: Serious Eats

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    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DAVE DRUM on Wednesday, November 20, 2019 18:50:00
    Quoting Dave Drum to Nancy Backus on 11-13-19 13:00 <=-

    I think that some new lines may be being buried... but there's a lot of
    rather closely packed neighborhoods here in the city, and there's also
    the risk of people digging and cutting into the buried lines...
    Probably a lot of pluses and minuses both ways....

    If you dig into a power line it can be quite a shock. We have a
    service called "JULIE" (I've no idea what the exact acronym translates
    as) asking people to "CALL 811 before you dig." The locator service is free to the home owner/contractor.

    We have similar here as well... I think it also applies to the buried
    gas lines, too...

    In Spring-a-leak and nearby new neighbourhoods have buried utilities.
    The older areas have poles and overhead wires - because no one wants
    to bite the expensive bullet and replace the existing infrastructure.
    So the tree trimmers turn otherwise nice trees into misshapen
    nightmares near the lines. Which doesn't help a lot if some over-served bozo on his way to elsewhere clips a power pole and sends a whole neighbourhood dark.

    Or a transformer blows....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to NANCY BACKUS on Thursday, November 21, 2019 11:46:00
    NANCY BACKUS wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    I think that some new lines may be being buried... but there's a lot of
    rather closely packed neighborhoods here in the city, and there's also
    the risk of people digging and cutting into the buried lines...
    Probably a lot of pluses and minuses both ways....

    If you dig into a power line it can be quite a shock. We have a
    service called "JULIE" (I've no idea what the exact acronym translates
    as) asking people to "CALL 811 before you dig." The locator service is free to the home owner/contractor.

    We have similar here as well... I think it also applies to the buried
    gas lines, too...

    *ALL* buried services are located - electric, water, sewer, gas, cable,
    and telephone. I can usually tell when there is construction/repairs
    afoot by the multi-coloured flags decorating the grounds.

    In Spring-a-leak and nearby new neighbourhoods have buried utilities.
    The older areas have poles and overhead wires - because no one wants
    to bite the expensive bullet and replace the existing infrastructure.
    So the tree trimmers turn otherwise nice trees into misshapen
    nightmares near the lines. Which doesn't help a lot if some over-served bozo on his way to elsewhere clips a power pole and sends a whole neighbourhood dark.

    Or a transformer blows....

    Or a fricaseed squirrel causes the breakers to drop out. I've seen those
    re-set from the ground using a looooong fibreglass pole to push them
    back into contact.

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    Title: Squirrel in Cream
    Categories: Game, Dairy, Citrus, Beef
    Yield: 6 Servings

    2 sm Squirrels; cut up
    1 md Onion; fine chopped
    1/2 ts Leaf thyme
    4 oz Can sliced mushrooms; drain
    1 c Beef bouillon
    1 c Sour cream
    2 tb Lemon juice
    3 tb Flour
    Minced parsley

    Marinate squirrl overnight in refrigerator in salted water.
    Before cooking, remove squirrel pieces; drain and pat dry.
    Place squirrel, ham, onion, thyme and mushrooms in the
    Crock-Pot. Pour in bouillon, moistening well.

    Cover and cook on Low for 8 to 10 hours.

    Before serving, turn to High. Combine sour cream, lemon
    juice and flour. Remove squirrel to a warm platter. Stir
    sour cream mixture into Crock-Pot. Cook until thickened.

    Spoon sauce over squirrel and sprinkle with parsley.

    Serves 6

    Recipe By: Rival's Crock-Pot Slow Cooker Cuisine; 1995

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JIM WELLER on Friday, November 22, 2019 15:39:00
    Quoting Jim Weller to Nancy Backus on 11-16-19 23:12 <=-

    Why aren't your power companies burying their lines
    there's a lot of rather closely packed neighborhoods here

    But you are already burying your sewer, water and natural gas lines.
    So why not power, telephone and cable?

    Dunno... unless there's something about the power/telephone/cable all
    being more recent developments into established neighborhoods... the
    ones I'm most familiar with were built in the early 1900's... our house
    was built 1900, and only got electric much later... it started with gas
    lights (the lines still are within the walls, and capped, showing up a
    couple of places)...

    there's also the risk of people digging and cutting into the
    buried lines...

    Very small. It hasn't happened once here in 15 years whereas
    powerlines going down from wind, ice buildup or falling trees is at
    the very least an once a year affair in most places.
    Also the lines are protected by sturdy conduit.

    That last should help... In the over 40 years we've lived in this
    house, we've only lost power from a storm a couple of times... when the
    whole neighborhood was taken out by something... And only once do I
    remember it being for more than a few hours.... Even in the ice storm
    that took out the tree in our front yard, we didn't lose power, although
    others in the whole region did... The one time that we lost power for
    3-4 days, most of the city lost power, and crews were brought in from
    all around to get the power restored to the city...

    ttyl neb

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