• Substitutions

    From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to All on Friday, October 25, 2019 08:44:00
    So, I'm parsing the weekly grocery adverts in my e-mail whilst routing
    my shopping trip to stock up on some things when I notice a little side
    bar blurb about "work-arounds" - so I clicked on the link and found ...

    I had seen most of these over a long and chequered life. Heck, I've used
    many of them in a pinch. But never before all of these in one place.

    Thanks, Schnuks.

    Out of an ingredient? Save time and money with these ingenious baking substitutes/swaps.

    LIGHT CORN SYRUP -> HONEY
    An equal amount of Honey is a tasty (cleaner) swap to light corn syrup.

    CREAM OF TARTER -> LEMON JUICE
    Adding the same amount of lemon juice to a recipe will take the place of
    Cream of Tartar.

    ALLSPICE -> CINNAMON + GINGER + CLOVES
    Equal parts of cinnamon + ginger + cloves makes a great dupe of
    Allspice.

    VEGETABLE OIL -> APPLESAUCE
    Applesauce and vegetable oil are a 1:1 ratio when it comes to baking!

    BUTTERMILK -> VINEGAR + MILK
    1 tablespoon vinegar + 1 cup of milk will allow for a delicious recipe
    that calls for buttermilk.

    CHOCOLATE -> COCOA + BUTTER
    Although it is hard to run out of chocolate, mixing equal parts of cocoa
    & butter will do the trick for a recipe.

    EGG -> MAYONNAISE
    1/4 cup of mayonnaise will act as the binding agent for every one egg
    that is missing.

    CORNSTARCH -> FLOUR
    Out of cornstarch-> Flour will do the trick! Just make sure to use double
    the amount called for (ex: 1 tbsp. cornstarch = 2 tbsp. flour).

    FLOUR -> PANCAKE MIX
    Since Pancake Mix is almost entirely made up of flour, it can be used in recipes when your flour runs out.

    EVAPORATED MILK -> LIGHT CREAM
    An equal amount of light cream makes for a handy ingredient swap when
    there is no evaporated milk available.

    HONEY -> SUGAR + WATER
    Mixing equal parts of white sugar + water will give any recipe the hint
    of sweetness in place of honey.

    MAYONNAISE -> YOGURT
    An equal amount of plain yogurt will swap with mayonnaise for a
    (healthier) recipe.

    BAKING POWDER -> BAKING SODA + CREAM OF TARTAR
    Mixing equal parts of baking soda + cream of tartar can be swapped with
    baking powder.

    KETCHUP -> TOMATO SAUCE + VINEGAR + SUGAR
    Since ketchup is comprised of tomato sauce + vinegar + sugar, it makes
    sense that mixing these (to taste) will satisfy your recipe.

    https://tinyurl.com/SWAP-THIS (which will also give you some pretty
    neat recipes)

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Chili-Cornbread Skillet
    Categories: Beef, Vegetables, Breads, Herbs, Chilies
    Yield: 6 servings

    MMMMM--------------------------CHILLI--------------------------------
    1 lb Lean ground beef
    1 lg Red bell pepper; chopped
    1 lg Yellow onion; chopped
    2 cl Garlic; minced
    1 tb Chilli spice mix
    1 ts Ground cumin
    1 ts Smoked paprika
    1 ts Salt
    1/2 ts Ground black pepper
    15 oz Can black or red beans;
    - drained, rinsed
    10 oz Can Ro*Tel diced tomatoes
    - w/green chilies; undrained
    8 oz Can Tomato sauce
    1/2 c Beef broth or water
    8 oz Can corn niblets; drained
    1/4 c Fresh cilantro leaves;
    - chopped, more for garnish

    MMMMM------------------------CORNBREAD-------------------------------
    11 1/2 oz Box cornbread & muffin mix
    1 lg Egg
    1/4 c Whole milk
    2 tb Unsalted butter; melted
    3/4 c Shredded Cheddar cheese

    PREPARE CHILI: Set oven @ 350°F/175°C.

    In medium cast iron skillet, cook beef over medium-high
    heat 5 minutes or until browned, breaking up beef with
    side of spoon; drain drippings.

    Stir in bell pepper and onion; cook 3 minutes. Stir in
    garlic, chilli spice, cumin, paprika, salt and black
    pepper; cook 2 minutes, stirring frequently. Add beans,
    tomatoes, tomato sauce and broth; heat to boiling.
    Reduce heat to medium-low; cook, uncovered, 25 minutes,
    stirring occasionally.

    Stir in corn and cilantro; remove from heat.

    PREPARE CORNBREAD TOPPING: In large bowl, add cornbread
    mix. In medium bowl, whisk together egg, milk and butter
    until combined. Add egg mixture to cornbread mix; whisk
    until just combined.

    Dollop cornbread mixture over top of chilli mixture;
    sprinkle with cheese.

    Bake 25 minutes or until top is golden brown. Let stand
    10 minutes before serving; garnish with cilantro, if
    desired.

    RECIPE FROM: https://nourish.schnucks.com

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DAVE DRUM on Saturday, October 26, 2019 23:16:00

    Quoting Dave Drum to All <=-

    LIGHT CORN SYRUP -> HONEY
    An equal amount of Honey is a tasty (cleaner) swap to light corn
    syrup.

    And corn syrup is a cheaper alternative to honey! [g] Roslind uses
    honey not sugar for her white bread and it's wonderful. I use corn
    syrup when making strongly flavoured dark breads, like oatmeal and
    cardamom or rye with caraway, especially if I'm also adding
    molasses, as the honey taste gets buried.

    VEGETABLE OIL -> APPLESAUCE
    Applesauce and vegetable oil are a 1:1 ratio when it comes to baking!

    That works fairly well for low fat versions of things like muffins
    and quickbreads but not light, delicate cakes and cookies. We did
    that here for a while right after Roslind's ball bladder surgery
    while she was getting used to not having one.

    CHOCOLATE -> COCOA + BUTTER
    Although it is hard to run out of chocolate, mixing equal parts of
    cocoa & butter will do the trick for a recipe.

    Maybe by weight but by volume one part butter to three parts cocoa
    is about right. I have often done that for brownies.

    CORNSTARCH -> FLOUR
    Out of cornstarch-> Flour will do the trick! Just make sure to use
    double the amount called for (ex: 1 tbsp. cornstarch = 2 tbsp. flour).

    More like just 2 ts starch = 1 tb flour.

    FLOUR -> PANCAKE MIX
    Since Pancake Mix is almost entirely made up of flour, it can be used
    in recipes when your flour runs out.

    Who buys pancake mix or runs out of flour?

    MAYONNAISE -> YOGURT
    An equal amount of plain yogurt will swap with mayonnaise for a (healthier) recipe.

    I very much like the acidic tang that comes from 1 part yogurt to 3
    parts mayo or 1 part sour cream to 2 parts mayo and make those
    blends all the time.

    KETCHUP -> TOMATO SAUCE + VINEGAR + SUGAR
    Since ketchup is comprised of tomato sauce + vinegar + sugar, it makes sense that mixing these (to taste) will satisfy your recipe.

    But ketchup has all kinds of spices as well as sugar and vinegar.
    Having said that I add vinegar and vinegar based hot sauce to
    commercial ketchup all the time cause it's too darned sweet.

    Diwali Treats:

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dahi Sev Batata Puri
    Categories: Indian, Breads
    Yield: 12 servings

    FOR PURIS:
    2 c Very fine semolina; (soji or
    -rava)
    Salt to taste
    Water
    Oil to deep fry
    Puri cutter
    OTHER INGREDIENTS:
    Green chutney
    Tamarind chutney
    Crushed cumin powder
    Red chilli powder
    Salt
    Chopped coriander
    Beaten curds
    Fine sev
    Boiled potato chopped
    Onion finely chopped
    Boiled chickpeas
    Boiled drained moong

    Mix soji, salt and enough water to knead a soft dough. Stand
    covered with wet cloth for 15-20 minutes. Take a fist sized lump
    and make a ball. With the help of some dry maida or soji, roll
    into big thin rounds. Cut small puris from it with the cutter.
    Approx. 1 1/2" diameter. You may use a sharp edged lid of a
    bottle, if the size is alright. Remove the frills formed and mix
    into remaining dough.

    Heat oil in a pan and deep fry puris till very light brown and
    crisp. Keep the puris covered with a moist muslin cloth if there
    is delay in frying. Drain and rest in a colander or over kitchen
    paper for awhile for oil to dry out. Store in an airtight
    container when cool. If in a hurry, just cut the big puris into
    small squares and use the same. No dough is then put back in frill
    form.

    Alternatives:

    Choose puris which have puffed. Make a hole on one side by giving
    a sharp tap with index finger. Fill in a tiny bit of moong,
    potato, sev, onion as desired. Arrange in serving or individual
    plates.

    Pour fresh beaten curds to cover each puri.

    Drizzle a bit of green and tamarind chutneys.

    Sprinkle salt, crushed cumin and a pinch of red chilli powder.

    Garnish with sev and chopped coriander.

    Serve immediately.

    MMMMM


    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to JIM WELLER on Sunday, October 27, 2019 12:37:32
    JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-

    LIGHT CORN SYRUP -> HONEY
    An equal amount of Honey is a tasty (cleaner) swap to light corn
    syrup.

    And corn syrup is a cheaper alternative to honey! [g] Roslind uses
    honey not sugar for her white bread and it's wonderful. I use corn
    syrup when making strongly flavoured dark breads, like oatmeal and
    cardamom or rye with caraway, especially if I'm also adding
    molasses, as the honey taste gets buried.

    That list was meant for "emergency" situations - to get you out of a
    "spot" when you're in the middle of a project and .... oooopsie.

    VEGETABLE OIL -> APPLESAUCE
    Applesauce and vegetable oil are a 1:1 ratio when it comes to baking!

    That works fairly well for low fat versions of things like muffins
    and quickbreads but not light, delicate cakes and cookies. We did
    that here for a while right after Roslind's ball bladder surgery
    while she was getting used to not having one.

    I heard all manner of horror stories about all the stuff I'd have to
    eschew after I had mine excised. None of them came true. I didn't alter
    my diet a single jot or tittle. Bv)=

    Oh, and I have swapped in applesauce for oil in a couple things - with
    good success.

    CHOCOLATE -> COCOA + BUTTER
    Although it is hard to run out of chocolate, mixing equal parts of
    cocoa & butter will do the trick for a recipe.

    Maybe by weight but by volume one part butter to three parts cocoa
    is about right. I have often done that for brownies.

    CORNSTARCH -> FLOUR
    Out of cornstarch-> Flour will do the trick! Just make sure to use
    double the amount called for (ex: 1 tbsp. cornstarch = 2 tbsp. flour).

    I usually always have cornflour on hand. But, if doing thickening I'm
    more likely to grab the arrowroot or potato starch.

    More like just 2 ts starch = 1 tb flour.

    FLOUR -> PANCAKE MIX
    Since Pancake Mix is almost entirely made up of flour, it can be used
    in recipes when your flour runs out.

    Who buys pancake mix or runs out of flour?

    I certainly don't buy Aunt Jemima. I did open my jug of rye flour one
    day and found it teeming with a gazillion or so black pismires. I bunged
    it into the freezer for a week and changed plans from rye bread to whole
    wheat. After a week in the freezer I sieved the ant carcasses/eggs from
    the rye flour and returned it to the freezer.

    MAYONNAISE -> YOGURT
    An equal amount of plain yogurt will swap with mayonnaise for a (healthier) recipe.

    I very much like the acidic tang that comes from 1 part yogurt to 3
    parts mayo or 1 part sour cream to 2 parts mayo and make those
    blends all the time.

    KETCHUP -> TOMATO SAUCE + VINEGAR + SUGAR
    Since ketchup is comprised of tomato sauce + vinegar + sugar, it
    makes sense that mixing these (to taste) will satisfy your recipe.

    But ketchup has all kinds of spices as well as sugar and vinegar.
    Having said that I add vinegar and vinegar based hot sauce to
    commercial ketchup all the time cause it's too darned sweet.

    As I said above none of these are prefect - just emergency "get you
    by" substitutes. BTW - have you seen any of the catsup w/sriracha
    mixed in? I found it by mistake at a local restaurant, tracked down a
    source and have been stocking it ever since. Bv)=

    https://redgoldtomatoes.com/products/detail/huy-fong-sriracha-ketchup-20oz
    is what I use. I note that Heinz has jumped into the market as well.

    I prefer Red Gold for anything tomato in a can or bottle.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Homemade Pancake Mix
    Categories: Five, Breads
    Yield: 36 Pancakes

    6 c (30 oz) A-P flour
    3/4 c (5 1/2 oz) sugar
    1/4 c Baking powder
    1 1/2 ts Baking soda
    1 tb Salt

    EQUIPMENT: A large bowl, Whisk, Airtight container

    FOR THE PANCAKE MIX: In large bowl, whisk flour, sugar,
    baking powder, baking soda, and salt until well
    combined. Transfer pancake mix to airtight container.
    (Pancake mix can be stored at room temperature for up
    to 3 months.)

    RECIPE FROM: https://www.americastestkitchen.com

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Archives

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Saturday, October 26, 2019 15:10:56
    Hi Dave,

    side bar blurb about "work-arounds" - so I clicked on the link and
    found ...

    I had seen most of these over a long and chequered life. Heck, I've
    used many of them in a pinch. But never before all of these in one
    place.

    I'd seen some of these before but there are some new to me on the list.
    Also some that I've seen (or used) different subs for.

    ALLSPICE -> CINNAMON + GINGER + CLOVES
    Equal parts of cinnamon + ginger + cloves makes a great dupe of
    Allspice.

    Maybe cut the cloves a bit since they are strong--go with a 1:1:1/2
    ratio.


    BUTTERMILK -> VINEGAR + MILK
    1 tablespoon vinegar + 1 cup of milk will allow for a delicious recipe that calls for buttermilk.

    Lemon juice will also work instead of vinegar. The "recipe" I've seen is
    2 tbsp of juice to 7/8 cup of milk.

    CHOCOLATE -> COCOA + BUTTER
    Although it is hard to run out of chocolate, mixing equal parts of
    cocoa & butter will do the trick for a recipe.

    Baking chocolate sub is 3 tbsp of cocoa, 1 tbsp of fat (oil, butter,
    etc). I've used this quite often when I didn't want to take the
    time/mess to melt (or not had on hand) baking chocolate.

    FLOUR -> PANCAKE MIX
    Since Pancake Mix is almost entirely made up of flour, it can be used
    in recipes when your flour runs out.

    Pancake mix does have some salt and leavening (usually baking powder) in
    it so you may need to tweak your recipe somewhat.


    HONEY -> SUGAR + WATER
    Mixing equal parts of white sugar + water will give any recipe the
    hint of sweetness in place of honey.

    MAYONNAISE -> YOGURT
    An equal amount of plain yogurt will swap with mayonnaise for a (healthier) recipe.

    Swap an equal amount of plain, unsweetened yogurt for sour cream.


    KETCHUP -> TOMATO SAUCE + VINEGAR + SUGAR
    Since ketchup is comprised of tomato sauce + vinegar + sugar, it makes sense that mixing these (to taste) will satisfy your recipe.

    There are some spices in ketchup that you wouldn't get with just this as
    is, you may need to tinker a bit to get the taste you want. Maybe a shot
    of worchestershire sauce also?

    Thanks for the subs list; I'll pass along any others I come across.

    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Jim Weller on Monday, October 28, 2019 02:23:02
    On 10-26-19 22:16, Jim Weller <=-
    spoke to Dave Drum about Substitutions <=-

    VEGETABLE OIL -> APPLESAUCE
    Applesauce and vegetable oil are a 1:1 ratio when it comes to baking!

    That works fairly well for low fat versions of things like muffins
    and quickbreads but not light, delicate cakes and cookies. We did
    that here for a while right after Roslind's ball bladder surgery
    while she was getting used to not having one.

    Gail has done that on some cakes with pretty good results. We just have
    to remember not to serve any to Nancy. BTW, assuming that "ball" is a
    typo for "gall", Roslind and I have something in common. Mine died on
    me and I was not even aware of it until my Doc called me up after I had
    some routine blood work done. He said "get to the emergency room,
    NOW!". My white blood cell count was about ten times what it should
    have been. I never felt it, and have had no symptoms since it came out.



    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Reuben Burgers
    Categories: Diabetic, Main dish, Sandwich, Meat
    Yield: 4 servings

    1 lb Extra-lean ground beef;
    1 sm Onion; minced
    1/2 ts Ground pepper; freshly
    4 tb To 8 tb sauerkraut; drained
    4 sl Low-fat Swiss cheese;
    4 sl Rye bread;
    4 tb Russian Dressing;

    Mix beef, onion, and ground pepper together and form 4 patties of
    equal size about 3/4" thick. Grill or broil, 4" from souce of heat,
    for 3 minutes on each side for medium-rear. Place 1 to 2 tb on the
    center of each patty and top with one 1 oz slice of low-fat Swiss
    cheese. Grill for 1 to 2 minutes, until the cheese melts. Serve each
    patty open-face on a slice of toasted or grilled light rye bread.
    Tope with each serving with 1 tb Russian Dressing.
    Joslin Exchange per serving: 3 MEDIUM-FAT EXCHANGES + 1 BREAD/STARCH
    EXCHANGE
    CAL: 348; PRO: 28g; CAR: 18g;(CALORIES FROM FAT, 46%); FIB: 1g CHO:
    72mg; SODIUM: 460mg* POTOSSIUM: 387mg;

    Souce: Joslin Diabetes Gourmet Cookbook
    Brought to you and yours via Nancy O'Brion and her Meal-Master

    *Not recommended for low-sodium diets unless raw shredded cabbage is
    substituted for the sauerkraut.
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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Monday, October 28, 2019 12:22:16
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    side bar blurb about "work-arounds" - so I clicked on the link and
    found ...

    I had seen most of these over a long and chequered life. Heck, I've
    used many of them in a pinch. But never before all of these in one
    place.

    I'd seen some of these before but there are some new to me on the list. Also some that I've seen (or used) different subs for.

    ALLSPICE -> CINNAMON + GINGER + CLOVES
    Equal parts of cinnamon + ginger + cloves makes a great dupe of
    Allspice.

    Maybe cut the cloves a bit since they are strong--go with a 1:1:1/2
    ratio.

    Never run out of allspice - I use so little of it that I mark the lid
    of the container with the date I opened/unsealed it. And replace the
    not completely used up container periodically.

    BUTTERMILK -> VINEGAR + MILK
    1 tablespoon vinegar + 1 cup of milk will allow for a delicious recipe that calls for buttermilk.

    Lemon juice will also work instead of vinegar. The "recipe" I've seen
    is 2 tbsp of juice to 7/8 cup of milk.

    I've done both in a pinch. I don't always have lemons/juice to hand but
    there is always a container of 5% white vinegar in my cupboard.

    CHOCOLATE -> COCOA + BUTTER
    Although it is hard to run out of chocolate, mixing equal parts of
    cocoa & butter will do the trick for a recipe.

    Baking chocolate sub is 3 tbsp of cocoa, 1 tbsp of fat (oil, butter,
    etc). I've used this quite often when I didn't want to take the
    time/mess to melt (or not had on hand) baking chocolate.

    Never been forced into that one.

    FLOUR -> PANCAKE MIX
    Since Pancake Mix is almost entirely made up of flour, it can be used
    in recipes when your flour runs out.

    Pancake mix does have some salt and leavening (usually baking powder)
    in it so you may need to tweak your recipe somewhat.

    Nor that one. You will have seen the pancake mix recipe I posted - which
    I have since amended in my MM database to reflect "Kitchen" rather than "Archives".

    HONEY -> SUGAR + WATER
    Mixing equal parts of white sugar + water will give any recipe the
    hint of sweetness in place of honey.

    MAYONNAISE -> YOGURT
    An equal amount of plain yogurt will swap with mayonnaise for a (healthier) recipe.

    Swap an equal amount of plain, unsweetened yogurt for sour cream.

    KETCHUP -> TOMATO SAUCE + VINEGAR + SUGAR
    Since ketchup is comprised of tomato sauce + vinegar + sugar, it makes sense that mixing these (to taste) will satisfy your recipe.

    There are some spices in ketchup that you wouldn't get with just this
    as is, you may need to tinker a bit to get the taste you want. Maybe a shot of worchestershire sauce also?

    As I said - this is an emergency substitute list. Like a boy kissing
    his sister. it's not ideal but it sort-of works.

    Thanks for the subs list; I'll pass along any others I come across.

    I've not tried this mix - but it looks nice. And if you're short of an ingredient - see the list. Bv)=

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Sleep-In Pancake Mix
    Categories: Breads, Breakfast, Mixes
    Yield: 8 Batches

    8 c Flour
    1/2 c Sugar
    3 tb Baking powder
    1 tb Baking soda
    2 ts Salt
    2 ts Ground cinnamon
    1 ts Ground nutmeg
    1/2 ts Ground cloves

    Combine all ingredients in a large bowl. Store in plastic
    bags or a covered container.

    Makes 8 batches of pancakes, about 80 pancakes.

    For Buckwheat Pancakes: Decrease flour by 1/2 cup and add
    1/2 cup buckwheat flour. Eliminate spices, if desired.

    Cornmeal Pancakes: Decrease flour by 1/2 cup and add 1/2
    cup cornmeal. Eliminate spices.

    I have added pecans (except with the cornmeal mix) and the
    result is very tasty.

    Recipe By: The California Culinary Academy

    From: http://www.recipesource.com

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Monday, October 28, 2019 16:20:00
    Hi Dave,


    ALLSPICE -> CINNAMON + GINGER + CLOVES
    Equal parts of cinnamon + ginger + cloves makes a great dupe of
    Allspice.

    Maybe cut the cloves a bit since they are strong--go with a 1:1:1/2
    ratio.

    Never run out of allspice - I use so little of it that I mark the lid
    of the container with the date I opened/unsealed it. And replace the
    not completely used up container periodically.

    I use it from time to time, but use more often the whole allspice
    berries. They're part of my sauerbraten marinade mix. I do have some of
    the powdered on hand, but more often grab the individual spices and use
    them. Of those, cinnamon is the one I use most often, followed by
    ginger.


    BUTTERMILK -> VINEGAR + MILK
    1 tablespoon vinegar + 1 cup of milk will allow for a delicious recipe that calls for buttermilk.

    Lemon juice will also work instead of vinegar. The "recipe" I've seen
    is 2 tbsp of juice to 7/8 cup of milk.

    I've done both in a pinch. I don't always have lemons/juice to hand
    but there is always a container of 5% white vinegar in my cupboard.

    I currently have red and white wine vinegars, white and regular balsamic vinegars & cider and white vinegar on hand. Have had rice vinegar on
    hand also but not currently. Lemons are bought on an as needed basis,
    rarely buy lemon juice any more.

    CHOCOLATE -> COCOA + BUTTER
    Although it is hard to run out of chocolate, mixing equal parts of
    cocoa & butter will do the trick for a recipe.

    Baking chocolate sub is 3 tbsp of cocoa, 1 tbsp of fat (oil, butter,
    etc). I've used this quite often when I didn't want to take the
    time/mess to melt (or not had on hand) baking chocolate.

    Never been forced into that one.

    I did more baking when the girls were younger/at home so did this sub
    fairly often.

    FLOUR -> PANCAKE MIX
    Since Pancake Mix is almost entirely made up of flour, it can be used
    in recipes when your flour runs out.

    Pancake mix does have some salt and leavening (usually baking powder)
    in it so you may need to tweak your recipe somewhat.

    Nor that one. You will have seen the pancake mix recipe I posted -
    which I have since amended in my MM database to reflect "Kitchen"
    rather than "Archives".

    I'm going to send a copy of my all purpose (imitation Bisquick) recipe
    at the end of this message. It's from "Whole Foods for the Whole Family"
    put out by La Leche League, International. The recipe can be used for
    anything from biscuits to pancakes to coffee cake and more, depending on
    what tweaks you make to it. A cannister of it stays in my fridge, gets a
    lot of use, especially in the cooler months.


    There are some spices in ketchup that you wouldn't get with just this
    as is, you may need to tinker a bit to get the taste you want. Maybe a shot of worchestershire sauce also?

    As I said - this is an emergency substitute list. Like a boy kissing
    his sister. it's not ideal but it sort-of works.

    Like the time I was making a cake (years ago, still living at home, no
    24 hour stores and supermarket closed for the night) and ran out of
    cocoa. I needed 6 tablespoons of cocoa, only had 5 so I grabbed the
    container of Nestle's Quick we had on the shelf, used a tablespoon of
    that. Not the best sub (should have cut the sugar in the cake a bit) but
    it worked.

    Thanks for the subs list; I'll pass along any others I come across.

    I've not tried this mix - but it looks nice. And if you're short of an ingredient - see the list. Bv)=

    Title: Sleep-In Pancake Mix
    Categories: Breads, Breakfast, Mixes
    Yield: 8 Batches

    8 c Flour
    1/2 c Sugar
    3 tb Baking powder
    1 tb Baking soda
    2 ts Salt
    2 ts Ground cinnamon
    1 ts Ground nutmeg
    1/2 ts Ground cloves


    LLI Baking Mix

    8 cups flour--I use all whole wheat, about 5 cups of high gluten, 3 cups
    of pastry. Other flours may be used, just remember what you're using
    when you want to make something like coffee cake. Rye flour wouldn't be
    the best sub there. (G)

    5 TBSP baking powder
    1 TBSP salt
    1-2 cupsdry milk powder--I buy the boxes of quart mix packets; one
    packet has about 1 1/3 cups of milk powder in it.
    1 1/2 cups oil, butter or fat

    Mix all dry ingredients in a large bowl. Cut in oil or butter with
    fingers (or a pastry cutter) until mixture makes fine crumbs. Store in a tightly covered container in the refrigerator, a scoop inside the
    container is helpful (G). Makes 11 cups, may be doubled.

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DAVE DRUM on Monday, October 28, 2019 23:49:00

    Quoting Dave Drum to Jim Weller <=-

    That list was meant for "emergency" situations - to get you out of a "spot" when you're in the middle of a project

    Yeah I got that and they are all handy tips to know.

    I did open my jug of rye flour one
    day and found it teeming with a gazillion or so black pismires. I
    bunged it into the freezer for a week and changed plans from rye bread
    to whole wheat. After a week in the freezer I sieved the ant carcasses/eggs from the rye flour and returned it to the freezer.

    I never had ants in my food but did have weevils once. Now I always
    freeze incoming flours, nuts, rice and similar foods before placing
    them in the pantry and I have not had an insect infestation of any
    kind for decades as a result.

    BTW - have you seen any of the catsup w/sriracha mixed in? I
    found it by mistake at a local restaurant, tracked down a
    source and have been stocking it ever since. Bv)=

    It's here but I just make my own.

    I prefer Red Gold for anything tomato in a can or bottle.

    Red Gold was available briefly at my Co-Op supermarket at a premium
    price but didn't last long. (Or maybe it was Ro-Tel, I don't
    remember anymore.) I guess it just didn't catch on. Alymer makes a
    similar product that's almost as good called Chile Accents. We
    usually buy Hunt's tomato products and add our own seasonings.

    Diwali Treats

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Seviyan (Sweet Vermicelli)
    Categories: Desserts, Noodles, Nuts, Indian
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 1/2 tb Ghee
    125 g Fine Vermicelli
    1 1/2 c Hot Water
    1/4 ts Saffron Strands
    1/2 c Sugar
    2 tb Sultanas
    2 tb Silvered Blanched Almonds
    1/8 ts Ground Cardamom

    Break the vermicelli into small pieces less than 2.5cm (1 inch) in
    length. They need not be uniform, but longer pieces make stirring
    difficult.

    Heat ghee in a heavy saucepan and fry the vermicelli until golden
    brown, stirring so it colours evenly. Add hot water and saffron
    and bring to the boil, then turn heat low, cover and simmer gently
    until vermicelli is cooked. Add sugar and sultanas and cook
    uncovered until liquid is absorbed. Stir in the almonds and
    cardamom, stir well and serve warm with cream.

    From: Neris

    MMMMM



    Cheers

    Jim


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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Ruth Haffly on Wednesday, October 30, 2019 12:14:10
    Ruth Haffly wrote to Dave Drum <=-

    ALLSPICE -> CINNAMON + GINGER + CLOVES
    Equal parts of cinnamon + ginger + cloves makes a great dupe of
    Allspice.

    Maybe cut the cloves a bit since they are strong--go with a 1:1:1/2
    ratio.

    Never run out of allspice - I use so little of it that I mark the lid
    of the container with the date I opened/unsealed it. And replace the
    not completely used up container periodically.

    I use it from time to time, but use more often the whole allspice
    berries. They're part of my sauerbraten marinade mix. I do have some of the powdered on hand, but more often grab the individual spices and use them. Of those, cinnamon is the one I use most often, followed by
    ginger.

    The only sauerbraten marinade recipe I have that calls for allspice
    berries (or allspice at all) is the Pennsylvania Dutch version. My own
    marinade uses lots of stuff - but not allspice.

    BUTTERMILK -> VINEGAR + MILK
    1 tablespoon vinegar + 1 cup of milk will allow for a delicious recipe that calls for buttermilk.

    Lemon juice will also work instead of vinegar. The "recipe" I've seen
    is 2 tbsp of juice to 7/8 cup of milk.

    I've done both in a pinch. I don't always have lemons/juice to hand
    but there is always a container of 5% white vinegar in my cupboard.

    I currently have red and white wine vinegars, white and regular
    balsamic vinegars & cider and white vinegar on hand. Have had rice
    vinegar on hand also but not currently. Lemons are bought on an as
    needed basis, rarely buy lemon juice any more.

    I stock lemon juice and use it to fill one of those plastic squeeze
    lemons. I carry it with me to add to tap water if the chlorine pong is
    more than I care to deal with.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06

    Title: Dirty Dave's Sauerbraten Marinade
    Categories: Marinades, Rubs, Herbs
    Yield: 1 Recipe

    MMMMM----------------------------RUB---------------------------------
    2 ts Salt
    1 ts Ground ginger

    MMMMM--------------------------MARINADE-------------------------------
    2 1/2 c Water
    2 c Cider or red wine vinegar
    1/3 c Sugar
    2 md Onions; peeled, sliced,
    - divided
    2 tb Mixed pickling spice;
    - divided
    1 ts Whole peppercorns; divided
    8 Whole cloves; divided
    2 Turkish bay leaves; divided
    2 tb Oil

    In a small bowl, combine salt and ginger; rub over meat.

    Place in a deep glass bowl. In a large bowl, combine the
    water, vinegar and sugar. Pour half of marinade into a
    large saucepan; add half of the onions, pickling spices,
    peppercorns, cloves and bay leaves. Bring to a boil. Pour
    over roast; turn to coat. Cover and refrigerate for 2 - 4
    days, turning twice a day.

    To the remaining marinade, add the remaining onions,
    pickling spices, peppercorns, cloves and bay leaves. Cover
    and refrigerate.

    TO COOK: Drain and discard marinade from meat; pat dry.
    Brown roast in oil on all sides. Place in a Dutch oven or
    crock-pot. Put one cup of reserved marinade with all of
    the onions and seasonings into a small sauce pan and bring
    to a boil. Pour over meat (cover and refrigerate balance
    of marinade). If using the Dutch oven cook at a simmer for
    3 hours or until the meat is tender. If using a crock-pot
    put the meat into the crock-pot and set to low, cook until
    meat is tender.

    TO MAKE GRAVY: Strain cooking juices, discarding onions
    and seasonings. Add enough reserved marinade to the
    cooking juices to measure 3 cups. Pour into a large
    saucepan; bring to a boil. Reduce heat and simmer until
    gravy is thickened. Slice roast and serve with gravy.

    Uncle Dirty Dave's Kitchen

    MMMMM

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Wednesday, October 30, 2019 15:03:21
    Hi Dave,

    Never run out of allspice - I use so little of it that I mark the lid
    of the container with the date I opened/unsealed it. And replace the
    not completely used up container periodically.

    I use it from time to time, but use more often the whole allspice
    berries. They're part of my sauerbraten marinade mix. I do have some of the powdered on hand, but more often grab the individual spices and use them. Of those, cinnamon is the one I use most often, followed by
    ginger.

    The only sauerbraten marinade recipe I have that calls for allspice berries (or allspice at all) is the Pennsylvania Dutch version. My own marinade uses lots of stuff - but not allspice.

    I do a hybrid of vaarious recipies for my marinade spicing. Most often,
    I'll use red wine vinegar with bay leaves, whole cloves, allspice,
    peppercorns and juniper berries (in a spice bag). I'll also slice an
    onion or two in it, bring the mix to just a boil and then let it cool
    for a couple of minutes. Put the meat into a zip bag, add the marinade,
    seal and put in the fridge for a couple of days, turning every so often.
    I always put the bag inside a glass baking dish............just in case
    a leak develops.

    I originally did sauerbraten in a crock pot but a while back switched to
    using a dutch oven--brown the meat, add the marinade and let cook for a
    couple of hours. It comes out then, kept warm while I make gingersnap
    gravy, usually a double or triple batch of that. (G) Usually served with
    home done red cabbage and whole wheat noodles.

    I've done both in a pinch. I don't always have lemons/juice to hand
    but there is always a container of 5% white vinegar in my cupboard.

    I currently have red and white wine vinegars, white and regular
    balsamic vinegars & cider and white vinegar on hand. Have had rice
    vinegar on hand also but not currently. Lemons are bought on an as
    needed basis, rarely buy lemon juice any more.

    I stock lemon juice and use it to fill one of those plastic squeeze lemons. I carry it with me to add to tap water if the chlorine pong is more than I care to deal with.

    If I have water while eating out, I always ask for lemon water.
    Sometimes I'll ask for extra lemon--it's always free. (G)



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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dave Drum on Saturday, November 02, 2019 15:06:26
    Hi Dave,

    I stock lemon juice and use it to fill one of those plastic squeeze lemons. I carry it with me to add to tap water if the chlorine pong
    is more than I care to deal with.

    If I have water while eating out, I always ask for lemon water.
    Sometimes I'll ask for extra lemon--it's always free. (G)

    Water w/lemon is my standard drink when dining out. Sometimes, though, it's awfully hard to get more lemon to squeeze into refills. Hence the squeeze bulb. Saves hassles and frustration. Like carrying my own
    pepper mill.

    One, maybe two slices of lemon is enough for me. Monday we were at
    Showmar's, a place that calls itself southern, seafood, Greek. Seafood
    is calabash style--I ordered shrimp, Steve asked for flounder. Each
    plate came with a lemon wedge; asked for and got 3 more. I used one,
    Steve used 2 of them--all went on to our seafood as he had tea, I had a
    diet pepsi. Water is more often our drink of choice and for the most
    part, we don't have a problem getting extra lemom.

    Title: Lemon Pepper Dill Fish
    Categories: Five, Seafoods, Herbs, Citrus
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 lb Haddock filets
    1/2 c Butter
    Dried dill weed
    Lemon pepper seasoning
    3 tb Fresh lemon juice

    I'd use the lemon pepper. For years I used dill, then started branching
    out in my choice of seasonings and have pretty much stopped with dill
    for fish. Then too, we don't buy a lot of fish & when we do, it's with
    specific recipes in mind that don't use dill.


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