• 129 a beer adventure & Been sick all week but...

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to DANIEL on Monday, October 21, 2019 09:30:32
    Great story, thank you for sharing. i really enjoyed that

    My pleasure, except that the Q wasn't that good! The
    beers were mostly enjoyable, even the IPAs, which were
    not bizarrely hopped; of course, I didn't order the
    TIPA pr any major weirdnesses. I've had ales with IBUs
    approaching triple digits, and I go, what were they
    thinking?

    Malt-rich englishy darks. care to share some examples?

    Sure, anything from the American brewerys' Octoberfests,
    which tend to be untrue to the style (though I do enjoy
    real Oktoberfests, Starkbiers, and even ordinary Dunkels,
    such as the Warsteiner that is a favorite in the Shipp
    house, which I visit a couple times a year at least).
    I enjoy brown ales that emulate Newcastle, also strong
    ales if not too hopped (somehow these kids think that
    strong and hoppy need to go together). I have no favorites
    but will drink anything of the sort from Shiner bock
    (probably the most misleading name ever) to Maximator.

    Interesting. where do you draw the line on the hops?
    I typically draw the line at reds. My town seriouslly has an IPA
    fetish. Some

    But in recent years - comporting with the trend described
    above - regular beers are trespassing into IPA territory,
    with APAs so called leading the charge.

    brewhouses will only do them. IPA, double IPA, session IPA, IPA this,
    IPA that,
    oh and a special IPA with some customer's name on it. So I typically
    skip the
    brew houses that do only ipas or sours.

    And IPA now covers a multitude of sins: when I started
    drinking Ballantine IPA in the '70s, it probably went
    maybe 30-40 IBU, just double a regular beer and less than
    Sam Adams lager, say, would rate now. Speaking of which,
    for a while Sam Boston ale was everywhere, and it was a
    go-to, but now Boston lager with less malt and similar
    hopping, so it tastes bitterer and less sweet, has pretty
    much taken over the niche; I'll still drink it, but not
    preferentially.

    Sacramento, CA has about 80 brew houses now, so they come and go. One can't afford to suck when yo'ure' no long the only game in town. For the
    longest time
    we had 3 breweries in the entire region. The beer largely sucked. They no

    What were the names of the three dinosaurs?

    longer exiset despite many years. No brand loyalty existed because they
    were
    the only game in town. That didn't buy loyalty, it bought people
    craving beer
    even if it sucked it was better than domestic canned swill.

    Hence the sudden efflorescence of 80 entrepreneurs.
    Some of them will shrivel up, and we can hope that
    the survivors have the best product - though we know
    that the big winners will be those with good
    advertising and a big social media presence.

    Los Venganza Del Alamo
    categories: championship, chili, texas, stews, main
    yield: 1 batch

    1 Tb oregano
    2 Tb paprika
    2 Tb MSG
    11 Tb Gebhardt chili powder
    4 Tb cumin
    4 Tb beef bouillon, instant, crushed
    3 cn beer
    2 lb pork, cubed
    2 lb chuck, cubed
    6 lb ground rump
    4 lg onions, finely chopped
    10 cloves garlic, finely chopped
    1/2 c Wesson oil or kidney suet
    1 ts mole, powdered AKA mole poblano
    1 Tb sugar
    2 ts coriander seeds, ground
    1 ts Tabasco sauce
    8 oz Hunt's tomato sauce
    1 Tb masa harina
    salt to taste

    In a large pot, add paprika, oregano, MSG, chili powder,
    cumin, beef bouillon, beer and 2 c water. Let simmer. In
    a separate skillet, brown 1 1/2 lb meat with 1 Tb oil or
    kidney suet until meat is light brown. Drain and add to
    simmering spices. Continue until all meat has been added.

    Saute chopped onions and garlic in 1 Tb oil or kidney
    suet. Add spices and meat mixture. Add water as needed.
    Simmer 2 hr. Add mole, sugar, coriander, and tomato
    sauce. Simmer 45 min.

    Dissolve masa harina flour in warm water to form a paste
    and add to chili. Add salt to taste. simmer 30 min. For
    hotter chili, add additional Tabasco to taste.

    Note from UPI article on the 1982 victory: Pfeiffer
    reminds that, "if you know beans about chili, you
    know there ain't no beans."

    after Bill Pfeiffer, 16th Annual World's Championship Recipe
    via Thomas Fink (and other sources, some reliable)
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