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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to JIM WELLER on Monday, October 21, 2019 09:29:02
    Subj: 102 sandwich dips
    Not so good as the Pioneer Pit Beef
    Pit beef can be wonderful. I have a recipe for it from the Calgary
    Stampede people that involves a backhoe, several cords of hardwood,
    old fence posts for kindling, 24 hours and a whole steer, cut into
    10 pound chunks and wrapped in wet burlap. I haven't tried it though
    for some reason.

    Once in a while I've seen ads for a bull roast but never have
    been around for the event. The pit beef places I've been to
    offered rounds (a big enough cut) cooked mostly in aboveground
    brick oven pits. It's the thin thin slicing that seems to make
    much of the difference. Pioneer has a big enough turnover that
    it doesn't require to be salted much beforehand, so that's also
    a factor. I think that Bill & Bob and others in the Boston area
    solve the problem by roasting in big batches and freezing.

    Philly cheesesteaks, though, are revolting.
    I've never been to Philly but I have liked the ones I've had here
    especially as made at a huge truck stop just outside of Ottawa on
    the Trans Canada Highway. But then I like meat and cheese together
    in sandwiches. And I admit to liking Chiz Whiz.

    It's better than provolone (harking back to a previous
    discussion). The beauty of Italian beefs and pit beefs and
    beefs on weck (I hate weck) is that they are the product of
    taking a lean less popular cut and treating it so as to
    rival the tenderness and flavor of rib roast, minus the fat
    (sad thing). Philly cheesesteak takes shaved rib roast and
    turns it gray and tough, the reverse process.

    Subj: 103 English restaurants
    One can simultaneously acknowledge a dish's roots while
    embracing derivatives that evolve over time or are created in
    its diaspora and even willful inventions by talented and
    imaginative cooks.
    I have no problem with any of that, provided it's properly
    labeled.
    Proper labelling is vital. I don't want to order a hamburger and get
    a black bean patty in a bun, not that black bean patties are
    inherently bad. I've even knowingly eaten and enjoyed vegan black
    bean and pumpkin chili. Chili powder seasoning makes all kinds of
    dishes taste good besides chili con carne.

    But ain't chili.

    As Wesley Pitts once said Chili With Beans is a fine dish but it's
    not Chili. They are two different dishes.

    Or at least it should be labeled chili con carne y freeholes.

    Sweet-sour chicken as interpreted over here is generally,
    for example, no more Chinese than a fire drill.
    But it is definitely Canadian-Chinese.

    Okay, insofar as anything I cook is American-Chinese.

    Heston Blumenthal's roast potatoes
    When I oven roast potato wedges I grind 1 tsp of dried rosemary
    Grinding the rosemary is a good idea. Omitting it would be
    even better.
    But I like rosemary potatoes! More importantly Roslind does.

    I'd like them with rosemary in the whisper amount that
    Blumenthal calls for.

    I won't say the following deserves the wwtt or do not eat
    label I sometimes give but something stronger and less
    strong at the same time.

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    Title: Arcadian Eight Bean Chili THIS RECIPE APPEARS TO BE A LIE
    Categories: Ground beef, Canadian, Beef, Mexican, Chili THIS RECIPE
    APPEARS TO BE A LIE
    Yield: 25 servings

    1/4 lb Each, beans: kidney, white, 1 x Red, pinto, navy,
    cranberry
    1/4 c Paprika 1/4 c Pepper, cayenne,or to
    taste
    1 lb Bacon 1/2 c Peppers, grnd dried
    poblano
    5 ea Onions, lg, peeled chopped 108 oz Tomatoes, italian
    plum, with
    2/3 c Garlic, minced 12 oz Beer
    1/4 c Coriander seed,toasted grnd 5 lb Beef, lean ground
    1/4 c Cinnamon, ground

    THIS RECIPE APPEARS TO BE A LIE
    In a large pot, soak the beans together overnight in water to cover.
    Drain
    and add fresh water to cover. Cook at a simmer for 1 1/2 hours or until
    beans are just tender. While the beans are simmering, heat a large
    skillet.
    Mince the bacon and cook it until it begins to crisp. Add the onions and
    garlic and cook over medium heat for 5 minutes. Add all the spices and
    the
    ground Poblanos and cook another 5 minutes. Add the Tomatoes with their
    juice and the Beer. Simmer for half an hour. In another pan, cook the
    beef
    until the pink color disappears. Drain and add it to tomatoe mixture.
    When
    the beans are fully cooked, drain them, reserving the liquid, and add the
    beans to the meat/tomato mixture. Salt to taste and let the mixture
    simmer
    for about 1 hour. If it is too dry, add some of the bean liquid. Bill
    Pfeiffer, 1982 World Champion Chili THIS RECIPE APPEARS TO BE A LIE
    Source unknown

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