• 109 no Bones

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Thursday, October 17, 2019 18:36:22
    Some people are somewhat educable sometimes.
    That's proven to be the case here... :)
    And most of us can serve a salubrious role as educator
    at one time or another.
    And in one way or another.... :)

    Oh, for sure.

    I've been known to cut a piece of meat off a chunk held
    between my teeth.
    Better you than I... I guess.... ;) I can almost see that, I
    suppose... ;)
    The good thing is the closer the knife to my eyes, the
    more effectively it can be wielded.
    OK... still would think cutting on a board would be safer, though...

    As long as I don't have a seizure in the middle of the
    operation, it's as safe as cutting on a board and safer than
    on a plate. I don't know why people are so neurotic about
    knives. I've seen people go into actual panic attacks when
    I've cut toward myself, which is perhaps slightly riskier
    than cutting away from oneself but way more effective,
    especially in flensing, which is when I actually do it.

    The most neurotic thing is setting the table with the knife
    blade toward the center, whereas it looks probably better
    with the flat side in. But having the blade side out is a
    symbol of aggression, they say.

    Maybe it's just that he feels like it might not be possible to do it
    all himself for all that much longer....? And wanted to do it while
    he still could...?
    Possible. It's not certain what I could have contributed to
    the sous-viding process anyway.
    Probably a good thing, then, that he did it all himself... :) Hmmm, I

    I certainly would not have detracted from it, either!
    About the only way to do that would be to get the
    temperature wrong or breaching the bag.

    seem to remember that there had been some talk of Steve showing off his soud-vide stuff at the picnic... guess he just had too many other things
    for show and tell... :)

    It's basically a water bath with a good thermostat.

    There are the traditional children's book illustrations of
    Jack Sprat and his wife, where Jack is skinny and she is
    plump, but if Jack ate a lot of starchy nonsense, that could
    easily not have been a reflection of any potential reality.
    Very true... and the statement that between them both they licked the
    platter clean could as easily have been if he ate starch and she
    didn't, as the fat that was claimed... :)

    Funny thing is that in the olden days, and I'm presuming
    at the time the poem was written, fat was a preferred food,
    as it gave more caloric value than anything else. Of course,
    fatness didn't have the opprobrium that it does now, and the
    ideal second wife for a widower was said to be "fair, fat,
    and forty."

    ... Meat Fact #9: fatty sausages are actually healthier then crystal
    meth
    That may be true, but fatty sausages are certainly healthier
    than zucchini, at least as far as mental wellness goes.
    Certainly tastier in any case.... :)

    Untastiness, in my view, leads to mental distress.

    ... But gratuitous acts of senseless nonsense are my forte.
    As opposed to John Cage's gratuitous acts of senseless nonsense,
    which were his piano.
    https://tinyurl.com/y2unwpz3
    His most famous piece...? Or prepared piano...?

    Sonatas for prepared piano. His most famous piece is
    4'33", of which I'm not going to bother with looking
    for on YouTube.

    2 Tb coconut aminos
    What are they...?

    A soy-free umamifying seasoning made of course from
    coconut and employing, no doubt, the most conscious
    and environmentally sound methods.

    You can use zucchini instead of gourd luffa if the
    latter not available in your area.
    But then it would be zucchini and tongue instead of gourd luffa... I'm
    sure you'd find it awful, not offal... Even I'd be inclined just to
    leave it out.... ;)

    I'd pick out one of the components, not perhaps the
    same one that others would. Gourd luffa, by the way, is
    not substantially nicer than other summer squashes.

    after zestypaleo.com
    The ginger and the garlic would go a long way towards making it
    zesty.... :)

    You win some, you lose some. You add some, you
    subtract some.

    ... I'm weird, but around here it's barely noticeable.

    Sez who?

    Pan smoked chicken breast with artichoke and mustard sauce
    categories: odd, poultry, starter
    Yield: 10 servings

    1 kg Chicken breast; boneless, skinless
    2 ts Olive oil
    1 oz Shallots, diced
    10 oz Chicken Stock
    10 oz Fond de Veau Lie
    2 oz Mustard, whole-grain
    1 oz Mustard, Dijon
    1 1/2 oz Balsamic vinegar
    10 Artichoke hearts, cooked, quartered
    3 oz Kalamata olives, pitted, halved
    2 Tb Tarragon, chopped

    Trim and cut the chicken into ten 3.5 oz portions.
    Lightly pound the chicken to an even thickness.

    Place the chicken on a rack in a roasting pan
    containing a thin layer of hardwood chips. Cover
    with a tight-fitting lid and place over low direct
    heat. Pan smoke for 6 to 8 min. Remove the meat
    from the pan and cool. Refrigerate until needed.

    Heat the oil in a small saucepan. Add the shallots
    and saute until translucent. Add the stock and
    reduce by half. Stir in the fond de veau liÿ,
    mustards, and vinegar. Simmer until reduced to a
    sauce consistency. Add the remaining ingredients
    and heat thoroughly. Keep warm.

    For each serving place a portion of smoked chicken
    on a rack in a roasting pan in a 375F oven and bake
    until internal temperature of 165F is reached,
    about 10 min. Slice the chicken on a bias and
    serve on a pool of 3 fl oz of the sauce.
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Tuesday, October 29, 2019 12:07:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 10-17-19 17:36 <=-

    I've been known to cut a piece of meat off a chunk held
    between my teeth.
    Better you than I... I guess.... ;) I can almost see that, I suppose... ;)
    The good thing is the closer the knife to my eyes, the
    more effectively it can be wielded.
    OK... still would think cutting on a board would be safer, though...
    As long as I don't have a seizure in the middle of the
    operation, it's as safe as cutting on a board and safer than
    on a plate. I don't know why people are so neurotic about
    knives. I've seen people go into actual panic attacks when
    I've cut toward myself, which is perhaps slightly riskier
    than cutting away from oneself but way more effective,
    especially in flensing, which is when I actually do it.

    The most important part of using a knife is having it under control...
    even I know that... ;)

    The most neurotic thing is setting the table with the knife
    blade toward the center, whereas it looks probably better
    with the flat side in. But having the blade side out is a
    symbol of aggression, they say.

    I don't remember how I do it... dunno as I'd heard that last, either...
    We've been informal enough that I'd only set out a knife if the meal
    required it... generally it's just a fork... ;)

    Maybe it's just that he feels like it might not be possible to do it
    all himself for all that much longer....? And wanted to do it while
    he still could...?
    Possible. It's not certain what I could have contributed to
    the sous-viding process anyway.
    Probably a good thing, then, that he did it all himself... :)
    I certainly would not have detracted from it, either!
    About the only way to do that would be to get the
    temperature wrong or breaching the bag.

    Just not something that needs any assistance, then...

    Hmmm, I seem to remember that there had been some talk of Steve showing
    off his soud-vide stuff at the picnic... guess he just had too many
    other things for show and tell... :)
    It's basically a water bath with a good thermostat.

    About what I'd gathered... :)

    There are the traditional children's book illustrations of
    Jack Sprat and his wife, where Jack is skinny and she is
    plump, but if Jack ate a lot of starchy nonsense, that could
    easily not have been a reflection of any potential reality.
    Very true... and the statement that between them both they licked the platter clean could as easily have been if he ate starch and she
    didn't, as the fat that was claimed... :)
    Funny thing is that in the olden days, and I'm presuming
    at the time the poem was written, fat was a preferred food,
    as it gave more caloric value than anything else. Of course,
    fatness didn't have the opprobrium that it does now, and the
    ideal second wife for a widower was said to be "fair, fat,
    and forty."

    IE, well broken in... (G) And probably a fairly good cook as well.. :)

    ... But gratuitous acts of senseless nonsense are my forte.
    As opposed to John Cage's gratuitous acts of senseless nonsense,
    which were his piano.
    https://tinyurl.com/y2unwpz3
    His most famous piece...? Or prepared piano...?
    Sonatas for prepared piano. His most famous piece is
    4'33", of which I'm not going to bother with looking
    for on YouTube.

    Exactly, no point to that at all... I never can remember the exact name,
    but know about the piece well... ;) Never the same twice, either, as
    the ambient sound would be different each time... :)

    2 Tb coconut aminos
    What are they...?
    A soy-free umamifying seasoning made of course from
    coconut and employing, no doubt, the most conscious
    and environmentally sound methods.

    No doubt. ;) Don't think I'd heard of them before...

    You can use zucchini instead of gourd luffa if the
    latter not available in your area.
    But then it would be zucchini and tongue instead of gourd luffa... I'm
    sure you'd find it awful, not offal... Even I'd be inclined just to
    leave it out.... ;)
    I'd pick out one of the components, not perhaps the
    same one that others would. Gourd luffa, by the way, is
    not substantially nicer than other summer squashes.

    Ok, then I'll not search it out... but might try it if it showed up on
    the produce shelves... ;)

    after zestypaleo.com
    The ginger and the garlic would go a long way towards making it
    zesty.... :)
    You win some, you lose some. You add some, you
    subtract some.

    Indeed.

    ... I'm weird, but around here it's barely noticeable.
    Sez who?

    What... It IS noticed....? (G)

    ttyl neb

    ... Not Ready Error reading user's mind.

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