• Re: Peanuts was: 972 mov

    From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Saturday, October 05, 2019 14:34:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 09-24-19 22:29 <=-

    I saw on the news (in the past few days) that a medication has
    been developed so kids with peanut allergies can now safely have
    small amounts of the nut. It won't be on the market for a while
    yet, and if it only allows small amounts, was it really worth
    the cost of developing?
    The idea was to try to reduce the degree of the reaction to the
    allergen when unwittingly encountered... as I understand it, it
    was somewhat of an exposure to the allergen in tiny doses to
    build up more of an immunity to it...
    Hopefully it will be more successful than the concept sounds. I didn't catch, but I presume it's a "use daily" thing or your sensitivity
    woould return if you didn't take it. Either way, it sounds like it's
    more of a "hold that thought" sort of thing until a drug can be
    developed that deals with the issue in a better way.

    Guess we'd need to wait and see how it develops... If I recall
    correctly, other desensitising regimes aren't forever things, but might
    be given regularly over some period of time and then didn't need to be
    taken any longer... perhaps this would be like that...

    Considering how easy it is to be caught by some unsuspected peanut in something, being able to lower the sensitivity level to the allergen
    might well be a life-saver, even if it still doesn't allow one to pig
    out on things containing peanuts...

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Sunday, October 06, 2019 21:50:44
    Hi Nancy,

    build up more of an immunity to it...
    Hopefully it will be more successful than the concept sounds. I didn't catch, but I presume it's a "use daily" thing or your sensitivity
    woould return if you didn't take it. Either way, it sounds like it's
    more of a "hold that thought" sort of thing until a drug can be
    developed that deals with the issue in a better way.

    Guess we'd need to wait and see how it develops... If I recall
    correctly, other desensitising regimes aren't forever things, but
    might be given regularly over some period of time and then didn't need
    to be
    taken any longer... perhaps this would be like that...

    Considering how easy it is to be caught by some unsuspected peanut in something, being able to lower the sensitivity level to the allergen
    might well be a life-saver, even if it still doesn't allow one to pig
    out on things containing peanuts...

    True, peanut products seem to be in a lot of things so a peanut based
    med to lower sensitivity would be a major help. I'd guess you wouldn't
    mind if they did the same with apples and coffee? (G)


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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Saturday, October 12, 2019 22:50:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 10-06-19 20:50 <=-

    Continuing from the Pond on 12 October, about 9:50pm...

    build up more of an immunity to it...
    Hopefully it will be more successful than the concept sounds.
    I didn't catch, but I presume it's a "use daily" thing or your
    sensitivity would return if you didn't take it. Either way, it
    sounds like it's more of a "hold that thought" sort of thing
    until a drug can be developed that deals with the issue in a
    better way.
    Guess we'd need to wait and see how it develops... If I recall
    correctly, other desensitising regimes aren't forever things,
    but might be given regularly over some period of time and then
    didn't need to be taken any longer... perhaps this would be
    like that...
    Considering how easy it is to be caught by some unsuspected
    peanut in something, being able to lower the sensitivity level
    to the allergen might well be a life-saver, even if it still
    doesn't allow one to pig out on things containing peanuts...

    True, peanut products seem to be in a lot of things so a peanut based
    med to lower sensitivity would be a major help. I'd guess you wouldn't mind if they did the same with apples and coffee? (G)

    At least my allergy to apples and to coffee isn't life-threatening like
    the peanut allergy usually is... no epi pens or ER visits have been the
    result of my ingesting apples or coffee (although the latter almost was,
    when I had the full=blown reaction)... But I have a nephew who spent an
    evening at an ER in VA Beach (when we were there for Elder camping one
    year) when he had some ice cream that had peanuts in it... and know of
    quite a few others with similar reactions... much scarier, and I
    certainly see the need for something to help with that... :) But yes,
    I suppose having some sort of desensitization therapy that might work on
    my allergies wouldn't be a bad thing, potentially... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Wednesday, October 16, 2019 22:14:53
    Hi Nancy,

    Guess we'd need to wait and see how it develops... If I recall
    correctly, other desensitising regimes aren't forever things,
    but might be given regularly over some period of time and then
    didn't need to be taken any longer... perhaps this would be
    like that...
    Considering how easy it is to be caught by some unsuspected
    peanut in something, being able to lower the sensitivity level
    to the allergen might well be a life-saver, even if it still
    doesn't allow one to pig out on things containing peanuts...

    True, peanut products seem to be in a lot of things so a peanut based
    med to lower sensitivity would be a major help. I'd guess you wouldn't mind if they did the same with apples and coffee? (G)

    At least my allergy to apples and to coffee isn't life-threatening
    like the peanut allergy usually is... no epi pens or ER visits have
    been the result of my ingesting apples or coffee (although the latter almost was, when I had the full=blown reaction)... But I have a nephew
    who spent an evening at an ER in VA Beach (when we were there for
    Elder camping one
    year) when he had some ice cream that had peanuts in it... and know of quite a few others with similar reactions... much scarier, and I
    certainly see the need for something to help with that... :) But

    The kid we knew with the peanut allergy kept an epi pen handy. Rachel
    had a few minor food allergies as a toddler but outgrew them; Deborah's allergies were to ingredients in Tom's Natural toothpaste and Rose Milk
    skin lotion. She also had an allergic reaction to Phisoderm as a
    newborn.

    yes, I suppose having some sort of desensitization therapy that might
    work on my allergies wouldn't be a bad thing, potentially... ;)

    Might be harder as an adult but might also be worth looking into.


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    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Monday, October 28, 2019 21:33:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 10-16-19 21:14 <=-

    At least my allergy to apples and to coffee isn't life-threatening
    like the peanut allergy usually is... no epi pens or ER visits
    have been the result of my ingesting apples or coffee (although
    the latter almost was, when I had the full-blown reaction)... But
    I have a nephew who spent an evening at an ER in VA Beach (when
    we were there for Elder camping one year) when he had some ice
    cream that had peanuts in it... and know of quite a few others
    with similar reactions... much scarier, and I certainly see the
    need for something to help with that... :)

    The kid we knew with the peanut allergy kept an epi pen handy.

    Pretty sure my nephew had that available, but they still took the trip
    to the ED....

    Rachel had a few minor food allergies as a toddler but outgrew them; Deborah's allergies were to ingredients in Tom's Natural toothpaste and Rose Milk skin lotion. She also had an allergic reaction to Phisoderm
    as a newborn.

    Some allergies are more serious than others... some are more readily
    avoidable than others once they are identified, too... And some, like Deborah's, are to things you'd just not expect... :)

    But yes, I suppose having some sort of desensitization therapy that
    might work on my allergies wouldn't be a bad thing, potentially... ;)

    Might be harder as an adult but might also be worth looking into.

    Not something I'm likely to spend much time trying to track down... if
    it presents, I'd be more likely to look into it... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Tuesday, October 29, 2019 16:22:44
    Hi Nancy,

    the latter almost was, when I had the full-blown reaction)...
    But NB>> I have a nephew who spent an evening at an ER in VA Beach
    (when
    we were there for Elder camping one year) when he had some ice
    cream that had peanuts in it... and know of quite a few others
    with similar reactions... much scarier, and I certainly see the
    need for something to help with that... :)

    The kid we knew with the peanut allergy kept an epi pen handy.

    Pretty sure my nephew had that available, but they still took the trip
    to the ED....

    Better to be safe..........actually I think it's part of the perscribing information that you head to the local ER after using the pen.


    Rachel had a few minor food allergies as a toddler but outgrew them; Deborah's allergies were to ingredients in Tom's Natural toothpaste and Rose Milk skin lotion. She also had an allergic reaction to Phisoderm
    as a newborn.

    Some allergies are more serious than others... some are more readily avoidable than others once they are identified, too... And some, like Deborah's, are to things you'd just not expect... :)

    Don't know if she outgrew those but the last one came to mind when I had
    the reaction to the Chlorhexidyne wash in February. My mom had an
    allergic reaction to the hexicloriphine in Dial soap so it seems to be a genetic allergy.


    But yes, I suppose having some sort of desensitization therapy
    that NB>> might work on my allergies wouldn't be a bad thing, potentially... ;)

    Might be harder as an adult but might also be worth looking into.

    Not something I'm likely to spend much time trying to track down... if
    it presents, I'd be more likely to look into it... :)

    You're not going to go over to Starbucks and indulge in a pumpkin spice
    vente latte every day for a week to test it. I don't think you will have
    a slice of apple pie with it either. (G)


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to NANCY BACKUS on Sunday, November 03, 2019 19:52:20
    Hi Nancy,

    some ice cream that had peanuts in it... and know of quite a
    few others with similar reactions... much scarier, and I
    certainly see the need for something to help with that... :)
    The kid we knew with the peanut allergy kept an epi pen handy.
    Pretty sure my nephew had that available, but they still took
    the trip to the ED....

    Better to be safe..........actually I think it's part of the
    perscribing information that you head to the local ER after using the
    pen.

    I'm pretty sure that the ER visit is part of the prescribing info...
    :)

    It makes sense, same as seeing your regular doctor for suchlike after an incident.


    Rachel had a few minor food allergies as a toddler but outgrew
    them; Deborah's allergies were to ingredients in Tom's Natural
    toothpaste and Rose Milk skin lotion. She also had an allergic
    reaction to Phisoderm as a newborn.
    Some allergies are more serious than others... some are more
    avoidable than others once they are identified, too... And
    some, NB>> like Deborah's, are to things you'd just not expect... :)

    Don't know if she outgrew those but the last one came to mind when I
    had the reaction to the Chlorhexidyne wash in February. My mom had an allergic reaction to the hexicloriphine in Dial soap so it seems to be
    a genetic allergy.

    Could well be....

    I'm glad neither of the girls had major food allergies--but I would have learned how to deal with them years ago. After having the one family
    with children having the allergy issues in our LG, I got to be
    comfortable working around issues--and now try to make sure there's at
    least one gluten/dairy free choice at church pot lucks.


    But yes, I suppose having some sort of desensitization therapy
    that might work on my allergies wouldn't be a bad thing,
    potentially... ;)
    Might be harder as an adult but might also be worth looking
    into. NB>> Not something I'm likely to spend much time trying to
    track down... NB>> if it presents, I'd be more likely to look into
    it... :)

    You're not going to go over to Starbucks and indulge in a pumpkin
    spice vente latte every day for a week to test it. I don't think you
    will have a slice of apple pie with it either. (G)

    Nope, not likely at all... on either case.... ;)

    Not even in your dreams? (G)

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Friday, November 08, 2019 16:15:00
    Quoting Ruth Haffly to Nancy Backus on 11-03-19 19:52 <=-

    some ice cream that had peanuts in it... and know of quite a
    few others with similar reactions... much scarier, and I
    certainly see the need for something to help with that... :)
    The kid we knew with the peanut allergy kept an epi pen handy.
    Pretty sure my nephew had that available, but they still took
    the trip to the ED....
    Better to be safe..........actually I think it's part of the
    prescribing information that you head to the local ER after
    using the pen.
    I'm pretty sure that the ER visit is part of the prescribing
    info... :)

    It makes sense, same as seeing your regular doctor for suchlike after
    an incident.

    Exactly.... :)

    Rachel had a few minor food allergies as a toddler but outgrew
    them; Deborah's allergies were to ingredients in Tom's Natural
    toothpaste and Rose Milk skin lotion. She also had an allergic
    reaction to Phisoderm as a newborn.
    Some allergies are more serious than others... some are more
    avoidable than others once they are identified, too... And
    some, like Deborah's, are to things you'd just not expect... :)
    Don't know if she outgrew those but the last one came to mind
    when I had the reaction to the Chlorhexidyne wash in February. My
    mom had an allergic reaction to the hexicloriphine in Dial soap
    so it seems to be a genetic allergy.
    Could well be....

    I'm glad neither of the girls had major food allergies--but I would
    have learned how to deal with them years ago. After having the one
    family with children having the allergy issues in our LG, I got to be comfortable working around issues--and now try to make sure there's at least one gluten/dairy free choice at church pot lucks.

    It doesn't really take a lot of extra effort... and once one gets used
    to it it's not that big a deal... There are a number of people at our
    church that do the same at our dinners...

    But yes, I suppose having some sort of desensitization therapy
    that might work on my allergies wouldn't be a bad thing,
    potentially... ;)
    Might be harder as an adult but might also be worth looking
    into.
    Not something I'm likely to spend much time trying to track
    down... if it presents, I'd be more likely to look into it...
    You're not going to go over to Starbucks and indulge in a
    pumpkin spice vente latte every day for a week to test it. I
    don't think you will have a slice of apple pie with it either. (G)
    Nope, not likely at all... on either case.... ;)

    Not even in your dreams? (G)

    Maybe in my nightmares...? (G) Only time I've been in a Starbucks was
    with my brother, who likes their coffee, and uses their wifi... The
    slice of apple pie might be in my dreams, though.... but probably be
    Lydia's apple pie....

    ttyl neb

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