• those brown bits

    From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Saturday, September 21, 2019 22:00:00

    Quoting Nancy Backus to Michael Loo <=-

    My standard use for clear animal fat is as cooking grease. If
    it has too much brown junk in it, it usually goes for gravy
    as I'm too cheap and too impatient to strain it.

    What's wrong with having the brown junk in it as a cooking
    grease...?

    They're bits of protein and make gravies taste better but will burn
    and scorch if they're fried beyond a short and gentle heating.

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    Title: Pot Roast Mediterranean
    Categories: Crockpot, Beef, Wine, Pickles, Herbs
    Yield: 8 Servings

    5 lb Eye round beef roast; tied
    Pimento stuffed olives
    3 lg Cloves
    1 md Onion; sliced
    1 Rib celery; cut in chunks
    1 lg Bay leaf
    4 Whole cloves
    1 tb Sugar
    1/4 ts Summer savory
    1/4 ts Peppercorns
    1/4 ts Salt
    1 1/2 c Dry red wine
    2 tb Olive oil
    6 md New potatoes; peel
    4 Carrots, cut into
    2 Inch sticks
    1 c Tomatoes; diced
    1 tb All-purpose flour
    Garlic; slivered

    With fat side up, make small but deep incisions in beef and stuff
    olive and 2 slivers garlic in each cut. Place in large bowl, add
    onions, celery, bay leaves, cloves, sugar, savory, pepper, salt,
    any remaining garlic and 1/2 cup sliced olives. Pour wine over
    all, marinate all night, turning occasionally.

    Remove beef and reserve marinade. In Dutch oven brown meat slowly
    in oil. Remove meat. Put 1/2 the carrots and potatoes in cooker,
    add meat, top with remaining potatoes and carrots. Mix marinade
    ingredients and tomatoes and pour over top. Cover and cook on low
    10 - 12 hours.

    Remove meat to serving platter. Using slotted spoon, place olives
    and vegetables around pot roast. Strain gravy and measure 2 cups.
    Place back in cooker and bring to boil on high. Blend flour with 2
    tablespoons water and quickly stir into boiling gravy. Cook,
    stirring occasionally, until thickened. Serve with beef.

    Recipe by: "Woman's Day Crockery Cook Book"

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    Cheers

    Jim


    ... Gravy has 3 of the 4 food groups: salt, grease, crunchy brown bits.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JIM WELLER on Monday, September 23, 2019 21:55:00
    Quoting Jim Weller to Nancy Backus on 09-21-19 22:00 <=-

    My standard use for clear animal fat is as cooking grease. If
    it has too much brown junk in it, it usually goes for gravy
    as I'm too cheap and too impatient to strain it.
    What's wrong with having the brown junk in it as a cooking
    grease...?

    They're bits of protein and make gravies taste better but will burn
    and scorch if they're fried beyond a short and gentle heating.

    Oh, ok... I wasn't thinking so much of using a high heat with it, as I
    tend to keep things of a more gentle heating... not being a proper cook,
    I suppose... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... Fish should smell like the tide. If they smell like fish it's too late

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Thursday, September 26, 2019 22:23:00

    Quoting Nancy Backus to Jim Weller <=-

    My standard use for clear animal fat is as cooking grease. If
    it has too much brown junk in it, it usually goes for gravy

    What's wrong with having the brown junk in it as a cooking
    grease...?

    They're bits of protein and make gravies taste better but will burn
    and scorch if they're fried beyond a short and gentle heating.

    Oh, ok... I wasn't thinking so much of using a high heat with it, as I tend to keep things of a more gentle heating... not being a proper
    cook, I suppose... ;)

    If you're doing something like slowly sweating onions so that they
    go limp and mild tasting but not get browned then those brown meat bits
    would make them better tasting but if you're deep frying things in
    the 350-375F range, they are going to turn black and bitter and
    make the oil and the food taste nasty.

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    Title: Pozharsky Cutlets With Mushroom Sauce
    Categories: Russian, Chicken, Mushrooms, Sauce
    Servings: 8

    1/2 c dried porcini mushrooms
    4 sl stale white bread, crusts
    discarded, torn into small
    pieces
    1 1/2 c heavy cream
    8 tb butter
    2 lb BS chicken breasts,
    cut into large cubes
    2 eggs, separated
    1 pn freshly grated nutmeg
    Kosher salt
    freshly ground black pepper
    5 tb canola oil
    1 sm yellow onion, minced
    2 ts flour
    3 c fresh bread crumbs

    Not quite croquettes and not quite chicken kiev, these rich,
    butter-stuffed chicken cutlets work the best when they're breaded
    and refrigerated for at least an hour before they're cooked, to firm
    them up.

    Pour 2 cups boiling water over the mushrooms and let steep for 20
    minutes. Drain the mushrooms and reserve the liquid. Roughly chop
    the mushrooms.

    Put the bread into a small bowl, add 1 cup of the cream, and let
    soak for 15 minutes; drain and discard cream. Cut half the butter
    into 16 small chunks and set aside.

    Grind the chicken in a food processor until smooth, about 30
    seconds. Add soaked bread, egg yolks, and nutmeg and season with
    salt and pepper. Pulse mixture until well combined, about 1 minute.
    Transfer chicken mixture to a bowl; set aside.

    In a bowl, whip the egg whites with a whisk until foamy; fold into
    the chicken mixture with a rubber spatula. Divide the chicken into
    16 even portions (about 1/3 cup each) and form each into an oval
    cutlet. Tuck a reserved chunk of butter into the center of each
    cutlet. With your hands, shape the cutlets into 3 1/2" long patties
    that are 1/2" thick, making sure no butter is exposed. Place
    finished patties on a parchment paper lined sheet pan and
    refrigerate.

    Heat 2 tbsp. of the oil in a 10" skillet over medium-high heat. Add
    the onions and cook until soft and transparent, about 5 minutes. Add
    the chopped mushrooms and cook, stirring occasionally, until
    browned, about 3 minutes. Sprinkle in the flour and mix well. Pour
    in the reserved mushroom liquid, leaving any sediment behind, and
    the remaining cream. Bring to a simmer and cook until thickened,
    about 10 minutes. Turn off heat and season with salt and pepper.
    Keep mushroom sauce warm.

    Remove cutlets from refrigerator and coat them in the bread crumbs,
    pressing them to make them adhere. In a 12" skillet, heat the
    remaining butter and oil over medium heat until it sizzles. Working
    in batches, fry the cutlets, turning once, until golden brown, 4-5
    minutes per side. Transfer to a paper towel lined plate. Serve the
    cutlets with the mushroom sauce over the top.

    Andre Baranowski

    From: Www.Saveur.Com

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    Cheers

    Jim


    ... Deep-fry something enough, it's likely to get tasty.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JIM WELLER on Friday, October 04, 2019 18:09:00
    Quoting Jim Weller to Nancy Backus on 09-26-19 22:23 <=-

    If it has too much brown junk in it, it usually goes for gravy
    What's wrong with having the brown junk in it as a cooking
    grease...?
    They're bits of protein and make gravies taste better but will burn
    and scorch if they're fried beyond a short and gentle heating.
    Oh, ok... I wasn't thinking so much of using a high heat with it, as
    I tend to keep things of a more gentle heating... not being a proper
    cook, I suppose... ;)

    If you're doing something like slowly sweating onions so that they
    go limp and mild tasting but not get browned then those brown meat
    bits would make them better tasting but if you're deep frying things in the 350-375F range, they are going to turn black and bitter and
    make the oil and the food taste nasty.

    Ok... I do the former... Rarely if ever, have I done deep frying...
    certainly not at all in recent years.... I enjoy the deep frying that
    others do, just don't do it myself...

    ttyl neb

    ... Practice good mirth control, use a conundrum.

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