Depends on the person and issue being addressed, most likely.

I of course don't think so.

You're the boss here so we have to play by the rules you post.

It doesn't matter who's boss - one should try to
play by the rules anyway, even if the boss should
on occasion step over the line himself.

We've had good examples in our lives, trying to be one also for the younger generations.

For those who got it right the first time. Would that there
were more who were that thoughtful and lucky.

We've had good examples--my parents celebrated 64 years together before
Mom passed away. In December, Steve's parents will celebrate 70.
Sometimes it's a one day at a time thing, other times it's smooth
sailing for a good stretch. Either way, it's a promise made and kept by
both parties. We've a 3rd party involved also, enough said on that tho.

We needn't know.

But you can reach further than I can on piano, etc.

A bare octave, now; used to get a ninth using thumb and
pinky tips.

I'm doing good to get 7 notes using the thumb and pinky tips on the edges of the keys.

For me, the 8 is by doing the same.

Still one more note than I can get to.

The things were designed so most people would be able
to reach at least an octave. Early keyboards were
smaller (clavichords even more so, persumably because
they were designed with women's hands in mind), but
the modern piano was sized for meaty German man hands.
It is a big advantage for those with big hands, for
example Rachmaninoff, who could reach a 13th, and a
big disadvantage for those with small hands, but that
hasn't stopped Alicia De Larrocha (less than an octave,
like you) or Vladimir Ashkenazy (octave, like me).

An important benchmark separating 'small' from 'large'
hands is a span of 8.5 inches. Up to this point, the
pianist cannot normally play a tenth, and more
importantly, fast passages of octaves and large
chords can be uncomfortable and involve pain or
tension. From the available data, we can estimate
that about 76% of adult men have hand spans that
can reach 8.5 inches or more. This leaves about
24% of men who cannot play a tenth. For women,
the situation is much worse, as an estimated
87% of adult females do not have hands large
enough to play a tenth.
- PASK - Pianists for Alternatively Sized Keyboards
(yes, that really is a thing, though pretty fringey)

students, much less deans) so knows the region.

Probably better than I do now.

I doubt that it's changed all that much, though
remoteness in time is a factor no doubt.

Parts of it haven't changed much over the years, others have changed
quite a bit.

One can say that of Antarctica.

Do you have a spice grinder?

Yes, AKA a repurposed coffee mill. But, that piece of root hit the
compost bucket after it got too dry and shriveled to even grind. Next
one we'll know better. BTW, just a note about our kitchen. We recycle

Getting ginger to go that dry is a real accomplishment.

paper, glass, metal & plastic. Plant waste goes into a compost bucket by
the sink, emptied into an outdoor bin as needed. We do have a garbage disposal but try not to put things like bones, avocado pits, gristle,
etc in it. If you need something, ask--we probably have it and could
hunt it down faster than trying to tell you where to look. (G) Of course
as the week end progresses, you will learn where things are kept. Other questions will be answered as the need arises.

Very helpful for those who will be using the kitchen. Also
helpful would be to label the various waste and recycle bins
if they're not obvious. There will be questions that come up,
such as if bones and meat scraps compost (not recommended for
individual heaps but welcomed by commercial composters). There
will likely be few meat scraps or gristle bits, because I'd be
inclined to eat them as is or repurpose them somehow.

Sometimes you just have to take a chance--and hope it turns out to

be > something you actually like.
Agreed. Or get someone else to jump into the
unknown on your behalf.

How often is that successful?

Truth be told, it happens more frequently to me: hey,
Michael, that looks interesting. Why don't you try it?
Seldom is there anything I have my heart set on so much
as to fend off such a request. "Well, I really wanted
to try the fried cricket and duck gizzard tacos."

also > picked up some blueberry honey this week. From what he said,
the honey > has to be derived from a certain percentage (60 or 70) of strawberry

(or, in the case of the one we got today), blueberry plants.

Makes sense, but you can test and test until you're
blue, but I don't see purity being anything you can
do anything about, plus it's a practical impossibility.

I'm just passing along the information Steve gave me.

And Weller offers a completely different set of numbers.

But not in this area. We used to get mesquite honey in AZ--that had

very > little water in it--very thick, and good.
So with a profusion of flowering species, your apiarists
are just going to be able to sell "pure honey."

Most likely so.

One sees "pure honey," "pure wildflower honey," and so
on in the stores.

So we get the "exotic" honeys from the bees that haven't travelled

very > far from home.
The freight trains and boats do the traveling for the bees.

Hitching rides to far away places?

In jars!

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Hi Michael,

Depends on the person and issue being addressed, most likely.

I of course don't think so.

You're the boss here so we have to play by the rules you post.

It doesn't matter who's boss - one should try to
play by the rules anyway, even if the boss should
on occasion step over the line himself.

I try to be good, it's the times my brain is fried from something else
that I may stray. Just picked up a round of antibiotics this morning for
some crud I've been fighting for a week so hopefully the brain isn't too
fried.

For those who got it right the first time. Would that there
were more who were that thoughtful and lucky.

We've had good examples--my parents celebrated 64 years together

before > Mom passed away. In December, Steve's parents will celebrate
70.

Sometimes it's a one day at a time thing, other times it's smooth sailing for a good stretch. Either way, it's a promise made and kept

by > both parties. We've a 3rd party involved also, enough said on
that tho.

We needn't know.

OK, we'll leave it at that.

I'm doing good to get 7 notes using the thumb and pinky tips

on the > ML> > edges of the keys.

For me, the 8 is by doing the same.

Still one more note than I can get to.

The things were designed so most people would be able
to reach at least an octave. Early keyboards were
smaller (clavichords even more so, persumably because
they were designed with women's hands in mind), but

It would have been interesting to sit in on the designing of that--how
big is your hand, dear? I want to make sure the keyboard is a good size
for you. (G)

the modern piano was sized for meaty German man hands.
It is a big advantage for those with big hands, for
example Rachmaninoff, who could reach a 13th, and a
big disadvantage for those with small hands, but that
hasn't stopped Alicia De Larrocha (less than an octave,
like you) or Vladimir Ashkenazy (octave, like me).

I'll haave to ask Rachel what her son can reach--he's tall and thin.
He's been playing the piano for about 10 years now; she's sent some
clips from time to time. That kid is good!

An important benchmark separating 'small' from 'large'
hands is a span of 8.5 inches. Up to this point, the
pianist cannot normally play a tenth, and more
importantly, fast passages of octaves and large
chords can be uncomfortable and involve pain or
tension. From the available data, we can estimate
that about 76% of adult men have hand spans that
can reach 8.5 inches or more. This leaves about
24% of men who cannot play a tenth. For women,
the situation is much worse, as an estimated
87% of adult females do not have hands large
enough to play a tenth.
- PASK - Pianists for Alternatively Sized Keyboards
(yes, that really is a thing, though pretty fringey)

Interesting; my hands are nowhere near the 8.5 inches. A size small
glove is big on me.

students, much less deans) so knows the region.

Probably better than I do now.

I doubt that it's changed all that much, though
remoteness in time is a factor no doubt.

Parts of it haven't changed much over the years, others have changed quite a bit.

One can say that of Antarctica.

True, but I'm less familiar with that region. (G)

Do you have a spice grinder?

Yes, AKA a repurposed coffee mill. But, that piece of root hit the compost bucket after it got too dry and shriveled to even grind.

Next > one we'll know better. BTW, just a note about our kitchen. We recycle

Getting ginger to go that dry is a real accomplishment.

Leave it in the open for several weeks, happens without you being aware
of it.

paper, glass, metal & plastic. Plant waste goes into a compost

bucket by > the sink, emptied into an outdoor bin as needed. We do
have a garbage > disposal but try not to put things like bones,
avocado pits, gristle, > etc in it. If you need something, ask--we probably have it and could

hunt it down faster than trying to tell you where to look. (G) Of

course > as the week end progresses, you will learn where things are
kept. Other > questions will be answered as the need arises.

Very helpful for those who will be using the kitchen. Also
helpful would be to label the various waste and recycle bins
if they're not obvious. There will be questions that come up,
such as if bones and meat scraps compost (not recommended for
individual heaps but welcomed by commercial composters). There
will likely be few meat scraps or gristle bits, because I'd be
inclined to eat them as is or repurpose them somehow.

We'll answer questions as they come. Recycle and general waste
containers are fairly obvious, as also the compost bucket. We use
plastic bags (not to be put into the outside bin) for recyles, one for
paper, other for cans, bottles, plastics, etc. It does get co-mingled
in the can outside but we don't have to deal with wet paper inside by
doing it this way. Meat fat, bones, etc does not get composted.

Sometimes you just have to take a chance--and hope it turns

out to > ML> be > something you actually like.

Agreed. Or get someone else to jump into the
unknown on your behalf.

How often is that successful?

Truth be told, it happens more frequently to me: hey,
Michael, that looks interesting. Why don't you try it?
Seldom is there anything I have my heart set on so much
as to fend off such a request. "Well, I really wanted
to try the fried cricket and duck gizzard tacos."

Reminds me of the old "Life" cereal commercials--you know the ones I
mean. (G)

also > picked up some blueberry honey this week. From what he

said, > ML> the honey > has to be derived from a certain percentage
(60 or 70) of > ML> strawberry

(or, in the case of the one we got today), blueberry plants.

Makes sense, but you can test and test until you're
blue, but I don't see purity being anything you can
do anything about, plus it's a practical impossibility.

I'm just passing along the information Steve gave me.

And Weller offers a completely different set of numbers.

Difference between Canadian and American standards?

But not in this area. We used to get mesquite honey in

AZ--that had > ML> very > little water in it--very thick, and good.

So with a profusion of flowering species, your apiarists
are just going to be able to sell "pure honey."

Most likely so.

One sees "pure honey," "pure wildflower honey," and so
on in the stores.

Better to be pure than what some fast food places try to pass off as honey--mostly hfcs with water, caramel color and minute amount of real
honey.

So we get the "exotic" honeys from the bees that haven't

travelled > ML> very > far from home.

The freight trains and boats do the traveling for the bees.

Hitching rides to far away places?

In jars!

It works.

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