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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Tuesday, September 03, 2019 16:50:26
    demarcate the swimming areas. Troublesome bastards, and if
    there had been firearms on the premises I'd be in jail now.
    Just as well there hadn't been, then... Doesn't the camp have any recourse legally...?
    None, zero, nada. If some joyrider took off a kid's
    arm, there would be liability, but short of that, no.
    Nuisance, noise pollution, and wakes swamping swimmers
    and canoes, one has to tolerate all.
    A shame indeed...

    Freedom includes the freedom to be an inconsiderate jerk,
    up to the limits that society sets, and clearly society
    hasn't been hard enough on motorboat operators.

    If people could think beyond their personal comfort
    a bit, inroads might be made in these issues as well.
    Many of my friends, even the liberal ones, see nothing
    wrong with keeping their lights ablaze all waking hours,
    running the dishwasher daily even if it's nowhere near
    full, driving a quarter mile to the store. Even if it's
    a Prius, there is adverse environmental effect.
    Lots of factors... Best we can hope for is for more and more people to
    make small changes in how they do things, towards the larger goal...
    Some things seem like no brainers to us, we probably miss some things
    that seem like no brainers to other people... :)

    I try to make up for my indulgences by self-control
    elsewhere. Problem is that all signs are pointing to the
    situation becoming critical faster than anyone ever thought.

    I've seen pictures of the mediaeval ones.... and for a while had the opportunity of playing on a fairly simple organ, a Hook and Hook one-manual tracker organ that some of us at our church had helped an
    organ builder rebuild... Even that was impressive testimony as to how
    even a simple organ could do very much more than one would have thought.... ;)
    In the long run, an organ was cheaper and easier to
    maintain than an instrumental ensemble!
    True... and besides, if one did have the instrumental ensemble as well,
    could blend well with that as well... :)

    I suspect that, as in houses of worship today, the
    instrumental ensembles were for special occasions,
    except maybe in the more wealthy and prestigious venues.

    a little more time with friends around... worked out well...
    Glad; send my sympathies.
    I will. I should be seeing her on Sunday...
    TIA.
    She returns the thanks... :)

    complained, and so I unwrapped my own headset and
    plugged it into my jack, and it was fine. so then I got
    the flight attendant involved, who figured it out
    immediately.
    Good for the flight attendant... but that probably isn't a particularly uncommon occurance, sad to say... :)
    That's likely, and many of the staff are less
    addled than the passengers.
    One would hope... ;)

    They're there primarily for our safety, after all.

    +

    I know you must have posted this with the hope of
    generating interest and conversation. Hah, fooled you.
    Hey... at least Weller picked up on it... as did you... (G)
    Not much gabworthiness got out of it, though.
    A little more than I was expecting, to be honest... ;) But they did catch
    my eye when I was going through the magazine, and I thought possibly
    others might also find them mildly interesting... :)

    If not stomach-turning.

    And let me also point out here that lists of
    ingredients and production steps, i.e., what we
    generally think of as recipes, are not protected
    by copyright absent substantial creative content.
    Most copyright notices that you see attached to
    recipes are bogus and are the only identifying
    data that I tend to remove.
    I suspect that anything that would be substantially creative might be
    being kept as a trade secret by the chef, anyway... :)

    Not what they mean by creativity, I think. They imagine
    that their prose is timeless and worth more than others'
    timeless prose, which generally is false and insofar as
    it's in a recipe, uncopyrightable, except maybe for the
    backstory, such as how the person's grandmother in Alsace
    used to do it, and as long as the story part is excised,
    that's not subject to copyright either. Odd thing is that
    three persons named Marty account for over 50% of my
    disagreeablenesses in all the echos forever, all, I seem
    to recall, regarding their overzealous and overreaching
    notions of creative content and intellectual property.

    I wasn't aware the quorn manufacturers claimed vegan
    status for their products. They contain egg ingredients
    (used to be based on them as well as the mycorrhyzae)
    and are produced in facilities that use eggs and possibly
    dairy.
    So, it would be vegetarian (lacto-ovo anyway), just not vegan... perhaps someone just got confused there...

    I looked it up - turns out that the Quorn people devised a
    special vegan recipe for Gregg's. Quorn itself is not vegan,
    though the company's publicity claims it is edging in that
    direction.

    but it's literally flying off the shelves," said Roger Whiteside,
    chief
    executive at Greggs.
    That puff pastry must be pretty light!
    Or there are a lot of suckers visiting the shops... ;)
    I was referring to literal flying.
    Actually I did catch that... ;)

    Hot Relish with Nuts (Sambal badjak)
    cat: Indonesian, United Airlines
    servings: 8

    1/2 c ground hot red peppers
    1 ts shrimp paste
    1 md onion, chopped
    4 cloves garlic, chopped
    1/2 c chopped macadamias or cashews
    salt to taste
    1/2 c water or as needed
    1 Tb brown sugar
    3 Tb vegetable oil

    Brown the onion, garlic and shrimp paste, add
    the ground hot red pepper and all the rest of
    the ingredients. Fry for 20 min stirring
    constantly, or until all liquid has been
    absorbed. Stored in the refrigerator in a
    closed jam jar this can be kept for several
    weeks.

    after Frank Rugebregt - frankrug at jps.net
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