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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Wednesday, August 28, 2019 20:15:36
    Nonfat or full fat?
    I have never come across anything but skim milk powder. I didn't
    know there was such a thing as full fat milk powder.
    I think there always was, but its shelf life was much
    shorter because the fat tended to rancidize. I suspect
    recent advances in stabilization and vacuum packaging
    have made it more attractive.
    I know there was certainly full fat powdered milk decades ago, as I used
    to buy it on occasion... had to store it in the fridge, though, as I recall... the advances in stabilization and vacuum packaging probably
    have indeed made it more attractive.... :)

    Why anyone would countenance the taste of nonfat dry milk
    whether reconstituted or not is beyond me, except in cases
    of imminent starvation.

    Chophouse or anything like that. Reminds me of the old
    supposed intelligence test question of "how do you
    pronounce cho pho use?" and the answer supposedly, no,
    silly, chophouse! Which is bogus of course. You pronounce
    cho pho use cho pho use.
    It certainly could make a difference which language one is reading that
    in... ;)

    I maintain that if you encountered the phrase in an
    English sentence, it'd still be cho pho use.

    P.S. I just found a basically empty can of whipped cream
    in the fridge, so I did the sensible thing and huffed it.
    Disappointment - the high lasted an even shorter time than
    normal and was of very low quality (more like half a beer
    than the expected minute-long trip down the rabbit hole).
    The main effect was that it made my lungs hurt.
    Oops.... probably had already used up most of its propellent....

    What inspired me to do the experiment was that the
    product was all gone, but there was still propellant.

    ... Never let an inanimate object defeat you...

    That's weird advice.

    +

    They might just have some other use for the fat... rather than eating it straight... not that I have any issues with eating it straight... been known to do it myself... ;)
    What I'd do, of course, would be to render it out and
    use it for cooking, saving the cracklings for my best
    friends or customers and me.
    Another excellent way to utilize it... :) Our 4th Sunday group is
    going there tomorrow... I might have a chance to ask... although I might consider the squick factor of others in the group before I do... ;)

    Remember, my dear, it's in the name of science.

    All kinds of people have them; some of their origins
    seem explainable; others are totally incomprehensible.
    Often even to themselves.... ;)
    That's the shrinks' bread and butter.
    Yup, even when they've no clue, either... ;)

    Even if they've no clue, they may help. Placebo
    effect and all that, you know.

    Though now even people who would traditionally be
    given a pass are now zinged out in public.
    It's a different world in some ways....
    That it is, and to my taste in many ways worse.
    Yup.

    Though we all (most of us anyway) preach toleration,
    it appears that the toleration level is way down.

    If the small plates are good enough, there's no need for
    big plates. Of course, the reverse would also be true.
    True.... the sit-down meal for a crowd our size though was a larger
    operation than just getting something less elaborate out, though...

    I wonder if the effort to enjoyment ratio is different
    for a big roast beast feast than a meal of small plates.

    I count a roast turkey as a roast and consider it one of
    the few poultry dishes worthy to compete with beef. It
    would lose, of course, pretty much every time.
    Ok... and of course... ;) How about a roast duck or goose....?

    A roast duck is festive but unsuitable for a crowd
    unless you do multiple birds. A goose is a practical
    conundrum, because it uses up a disproportionate amount
    of oven space given the few servings it provides. If
    you have two ovens, you can do two geese, which would
    serve as many as a turkey, plus there's all that lovely
    goose grease. Not everyone has two ovens.

    ... Morfy's law - Enythink thit ken go rong willl.

    That's easy for you to say.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v7.07

    Title: Vegetarian Tamale Filling
    Categories: Mexican, Vegetarian
    Servings: 1

    2 c Sharp cheddar cheese
    2 c Shredded swiss or white
    Cheddar cheese
    2/3 c Chopped black olives
    2/3 c Chopped pine nuts
    2 Onions, chopped
    8 cl Garlic
    2 tb Dried oregano
    2 ts Ground cumin
    1 cn Whole kernel corn, drained
    2 cn (4-oz each) green chilies,
    Chopped
    2 ts Olive oil

    Contributed to the echo by: Leti Labell Original recipe from "The Pink
    Adobe Cookbook", by Rosalea Murphy. Vegetarian Tamale Filling Use the
    food
    processor (if you can) to grate the cheese. Also, I chopped the onions
    and
    the garlic in the food processor.

    Combine all ingredients in a large bowl.

    MMMMM
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Saturday, August 31, 2019 15:32:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 08-28-19 20:15 <=-

    Nonfat or full fat?
    I have never come across anything but skim milk powder. I didn't
    know there was such a thing as full fat milk powder.
    I think there always was, but its shelf life was much
    shorter because the fat tended to rancidize. I suspect
    recent advances in stabilization and vacuum packaging
    have made it more attractive.
    I know there was certainly full fat powdered milk decades ago, as I used
    to buy it on occasion... had to store it in the fridge, though, as I recall... the advances in stabilization and vacuum packaging probably
    have indeed made it more attractive.... :)
    Why anyone would countenance the taste of nonfat dry milk
    whether reconstituted or not is beyond me, except in cases
    of imminent starvation.

    Having been forced to drink it as a child, I only used it as a
    fortifying and/or called-for ingredient in cooking and baking... I found
    the taste unacceptable... but had no choice growing up... At least we
    cut the "funny milk" with a quart of whole milk to the gallon container,
    so the taste was not quite so nasty as it could have been... (and with
    the whole milk in the house, I could sneak a little from time to time...)

    Chophouse or anything like that. Reminds me of the old
    supposed intelligence test question of "how do you
    pronounce cho pho use?" and the answer supposedly, no,
    silly, chophouse! Which is bogus of course. You pronounce
    cho pho use cho pho use.
    It certainly could make a difference which language one is reading that in... ;)
    I maintain that if you encountered the phrase in an
    English sentence, it'd still be cho pho use.

    And not an exercise in deleting bogus spaces... ;) Reminds me of an
    exercise Daddy pulled on us as kids... How do you pronounce I-S-L-E?
    "ile" How do you pronounce A-I-S-L-E? "ile" How do you pronounce M-I-S-L-E-D? "mild" Nope, you were mis-led... My one sister came up
    with "m-eye-suld"...

    P.S. I just found a basically empty can of whipped cream
    in the fridge, so I did the sensible thing and huffed it. Disappointment - the high lasted an even shorter time than
    normal and was of very low quality (more like half a beer
    than the expected minute-long trip down the rabbit hole).
    The main effect was that it made my lungs hurt.
    Oops.... probably had already used up most of its propellent....
    What inspired me to do the experiment was that the
    product was all gone, but there was still propellant.

    So, defective propellant...? or just not sufficient after all...?

    They might just have some other use for the fat... rather than eating
    it straight... not that I have any issues with eating it straight...
    been known to do it myself... ;)
    What I'd do, of course, would be to render it out and
    use it for cooking, saving the cracklings for my best
    friends or customers and me.
    Another excellent way to utilize it... :) Our 4th Sunday group is
    going there tomorrow... I might have a chance to ask... although I might consider the squick factor of others in the group before I do... ;)
    Remember, my dear, it's in the name of science.

    So I did get a chance to talk to one of the ladies there (one of the
    older ones, not the young one that served our picnic group), away from
    the assembled group, as we were about to leave... Not sure what she was thinking of my question, but she assured me that they wouldn't eat the
    raw fat on its own... Maybe they've become too Americanized
    themselves... ;)

    All kinds of people have them; some of their origins
    seem explainable; others are totally incomprehensible.
    Often even to themselves.... ;)
    That's the shrinks' bread and butter.
    Yup, even when they've no clue, either... ;)
    Even if they've no clue, they may help. Placebo
    effect and all that, you know.

    True.

    Though now even people who would traditionally be
    given a pass are now zinged out in public.
    It's a different world in some ways....
    That it is, and to my taste in many ways worse.
    Yup.
    Though we all (most of us anyway) preach toleration,
    it appears that the toleration level is way down.

    "You need to tolerate me, but what you do I can't tolerate"

    If the small plates are good enough, there's no need for
    big plates. Of course, the reverse would also be true.
    True.... the sit-down meal for a crowd our size though was a larger operation than just getting something less elaborate out, though...
    I wonder if the effort to enjoyment ratio is different
    for a big roast beast feast than a meal of small plates.

    Probably partially depends on the major basis/purpose for the
    gathering... and how many are involved in the effort...

    I count a roast turkey as a roast and consider it one of
    the few poultry dishes worthy to compete with beef. It
    would lose, of course, pretty much every time.
    Ok... and of course... ;) How about a roast duck or goose....?
    A roast duck is festive but unsuitable for a crowd
    unless you do multiple birds. A goose is a practical
    conundrum, because it uses up a disproportionate amount
    of oven space given the few servings it provides. If
    you have two ovens, you can do two geese, which would
    serve as many as a turkey, plus there's all that lovely
    goose grease. Not everyone has two ovens.

    Point.

    ttyl neb

    ... What messages? You sent me messages?? {WOOF WOOF *burp!*}

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