• 821 etc + overflowxn

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Monday, August 19, 2019 01:24:38
    When you're bobbing around nicely and a motorboat roars
    by with its wake engulfing your head, it's hard not to
    think of homicide.
    Indeed.
    An idle question - what's worse, being swamped
    by a motorboat when you're in a canoe or if you're
    already in the water?
    They both sound pretty nasty... not sure which would be worse... or
    better...

    Early this year I went to a camp that has something like
    80% of the shoreline of a lake, but people keep putting
    motorboats in opposite and roaring up close to the shore on
    the camp's part, cutting inside the buoys that are used to
    demarcate the swimming areas. Troublesome bastards, and if
    there had been firearms on the premises I'd be in jail now.

    All sorts of other protein sources would be more
    convenient.
    Very much so... :)
    It would probably be easier to synthesize protein
    from scratch than use zebra mussels. And there's a
    lot of biomass that is easier to harvest and possibly
    as abundant.
    Point proved... ;)

    We could solve world hunger and poverty by only a
    modest redistribution of resources and could probably
    accommodate an even greater population using readily
    available food resources without using marginal things
    like zebra mussels. Water and unpolluted air, those are
    different issues and likely even less vulnerable to
    progress.

    True... at least on the possibility of a stop being an automatic transposer... sorta... one would have to use the stop on its own as a
    solo stop, though... Usually it's used to just fill in harmonies and color... :)
    Yeah, true enough, but their existence, and the
    thought processes that went into their design,
    boggle the mind.
    Have to give a lot of credit to the organ builders... :)

    Indeed. Have you seen mediaeval organs? They're quite
    simple beasts, and the development of complex systems
    during the Renaissance and Baroque is impressive
    testimony to instrument maker ingenuity.

    we took Edith to Taste of Japan for a memorial meal, following taking
    her up to her vet's to put down her cat Nena... it just seemed like the right thing to do....
    Yeah, feed on something the cat would have appreciated.
    Sad, though, that scenario.
    She made a similar comment... my thought when suggesting it was mostly
    that it is one of her favorite places to go... and she obviously needed
    a little more time with friends around... worked out well...

    Glad; send my sympathies.

    On the plane yesterday she tried to put her headphone
    plug into the 110V outlet. It went in. Luckily there
    are fuses and such.
    Not good... when did she (or did she) figure it out...?

    She leaned across the barrier between our seats and
    complained, and so I unwrapped my own headset and
    plugged it into my jack, and it was fine. so then I got
    the flight attendant involved, who figured it out
    immediately.

    Perhaps the drummers and thighs also get cut into two or three pieces
    like the breast getting cut down...? I'd keep the giblets out of the stew, probably as cook's portion... ;) And, if one had 6 breast pieces, two wings, 4 drummer pieces and 6 thigh pieces, that would give the 16 pieces without adding in back and neck...
    Thighs maybe. A duck drumstick has very little meat, as do
    the wings. I don't see breaking them down into subparts.
    I wasn't suggesting breaking down the wings... if one didn't with the drummers either, I suppose one would have to add back in two back
    pieces... ;)

    I should have said "similarly to the wings"; anyhow,
    various duck appendages don't offer much nourishment
    but perhaps a bit of fun in the eating.

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    Title: Not Miss Lily's Olives Dip
    Categories: Appetizers, Cheese, Dips
    Servings: 4

    1 c Cream Cheese, Softened
    1 c Sour Cream
    1/4 c Black Olives, Chopped
    1/2 ts Garlic Powder
    1 ts Dried Parsley, Crushed
    2 tb Worcestershire Sauce
    1 tb Paprika
    1 tb Fresh Parsley, Chopped

    Beat the cream cheese to a smooth consistency. Blend in the sour cream
    and
    then the remaining ingredients. Blend well. Cover and chill. Makes
    about
    2-1/4 cups of dip. SUGGESTED DIPPERS: Scallions, Jalapeno Peppers,
    Celery
    Root, Potato Chips, Duck Sausage. Source: pretentious n0onsense

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michael Loo on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 01:49:02
    On 08-19-19 01:24, Michael Loo <=-
    spoke to Nancy Backus about 821 etc + overflowxn <=-

    Early this year I went to a camp that has something like
    80% of the shoreline of a lake, but people keep putting
    motorboats in opposite and roaring up close to the shore on
    the camp's part, cutting inside the buoys that are used to
    demarcate the swimming areas. Troublesome bastards, and if
    there had been firearms on the premises I'd be in jail now.

    When I was of a single digit age, we moved into one of two houses on my
    uncle's property. It was on a small lake. My dad and I used to go out
    into the lake to fish near an old submerged tree stump, and did pretty
    good there. The lake was also as clear as tap water. Then someone
    moved into another property on the lake. They wanted to run their
    powerboats and decided that the tree stump was a hazard -- and so had it
    pulled out. There went the good fishing. Next thing was they decided
    that they wanted a sandy beach, so they did a dreging operation to pull
    lake bottom up onto there shore. I don't know if that gave them a sandy
    beach, but what it did for sure was to make the lake water turn murky
    brown. There went the good swiming.

    The recipe below is very simple. Another recipe looked better, except
    for some of the forbidden (for you) vegetables. The use of a balsamic
    vinegar for basting sounds pretty good.

    ___-------------------GRILLING VINEGAR---------------------------
    1/2 c Basil leaves, minced
    2 lg Cloves garlic
    1/2 c Balsamic vinegar

    Make grilling vinegar by combining ingredients in a small bowl.
    Heat barbeque grill to medium high, place eggplant, zucchini,
    onion and red bell pepper in a single layer on grate.
    Immediately brush on grilling vinegar and turn vegetables over.
    Brush top side with vinegar. Turn vegetables to cook evenly,
    brushing generously with vinegar.
    When vegetables are just tender but still intact, remove from
    grill. Brush on remaining vinegar, season to taste with salt
    (or any no-salt seasoning favorite) and pepper.

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    Title: Eggplant Sandwich
    Categories: Low fat, Sandwich, Posted
    Yield: 4 Servings

    1 Eggplant
    Salt
    Bread
    Fresh basil

    1. Slice an eggplant into round, 1/4" or so slices. Salt, let sit for
    an hour or so, wash and pat dry (this all to remove bitterness). Then
    layer on a cookie sheet and bake about 10-15 min at 350=B0 until
    soft. Alternately, grill slices. Keep in fridge until you crave a
    sandwich.

    2. Sandwich time...On some wonderful bread, maybe warmed up a bit,
    layer eggplant slices, juicy fresh tomato slices, and, the key
    ingredient, fresh basil leaves. Yum.
    Date: Wed, 14 Sep 94 13:48:53 CDT
    From: kfischer@acpub.duke.edu (Karen Fischer)

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  • From Dave Drum@1:229/452 to Dale Shipp on Tuesday, August 20, 2019 12:00:34
    Dale Shipp wrote to Michael Loo <=-


    Early this year I went to a camp that has something like
    80% of the shoreline of a lake, but people keep putting
    motorboats in opposite and roaring up close to the shore on
    the camp's part, cutting inside the buoys that are used to
    demarcate the swimming areas. Troublesome bastards, and if
    there had been firearms on the premises I'd be in jail now.

    When I was of a single digit age, we moved into one of two houses on my uncle's property. It was on a small lake. My dad and I used to go out into the lake to fish near an old submerged tree stump, and did pretty good there. The lake was also as clear as tap water. Then someone
    moved into another property on the lake. They wanted to run their powerboats and decided that the tree stump was a hazard -- and so had
    it pulled out. There went the good fishing. Next thing was they
    decided that they wanted a sandy beach, so they did a dreging operation
    to pull lake bottom up onto there shore. I don't know if that gave
    them a sandy beach, but what it did for sure was to make the lake water turn murky brown. There went the good swiming.

    And in this day and age there would be any number of lawyers and court injuctions to monetise any hard-feelings.

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    Title: Poor-Man's Lobster (Lawyerfish) *
    Categories: Five, Seafood
    Yield: 2 Servings

    1 lb Lawyerfish backstraps; in
    - bite-size pieces
    1 qt Water
    1/4 c Vinegar
    2 ts Salt

    Add salt to water in saucepan. Stir well. Bring to a full
    boil. Add vinegar. Let it come to a full boil again. Slowly
    add burbot chunks. Let come back to a full boil and boil for
    2 minutes. Drain.

    Serve with melted butter, salt & pepper.

    * Lawyerfish aka burbot aka freshwater cod

    From: http://roughfish.com

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Friday, August 23, 2019 21:16:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 08-19-19 01:24 <=-

    When you're bobbing around nicely and a motorboat roars
    by with its wake engulfing your head, it's hard not to
    think of homicide.
    Indeed.
    An idle question - what's worse, being swamped by a motorboat
    when you're in a canoe or if you're already in the water?
    They both sound pretty nasty... not sure which would be worse... or better...
    Early this year I went to a camp that has something like
    80% of the shoreline of a lake, but people keep putting
    motorboats in opposite and roaring up close to the shore on
    the camp's part, cutting inside the buoys that are used to
    demarcate the swimming areas. Troublesome bastards, and if
    there had been firearms on the premises I'd be in jail now.

    Just as well there hadn't been, then... Doesn't the camp have any
    recourse legally...?

    All sorts of other protein sources would be more
    convenient.
    Very much so... :)
    It would probably be easier to synthesize protein
    from scratch than use zebra mussels. And there's a
    lot of biomass that is easier to harvest and possibly
    as abundant.
    Point proved... ;)
    We could solve world hunger and poverty by only a
    modest redistribution of resources and could probably
    accommodate an even greater population using readily
    available food resources without using marginal things
    like zebra mussels. Water and unpolluted air, those are
    different issues and likely even less vulnerable to
    progress.

    Indeed... and also, indeed...

    True... at least on the possibility of a stop being an automatic transposer... sorta... one would have to use the stop on its own as a solo stop, though... Usually it's used to just fill in harmonies and color... :)
    Yeah, true enough, but their existence, and the
    thought processes that went into their design,
    boggle the mind.
    Have to give a lot of credit to the organ builders... :)
    Indeed. Have you seen mediaeval organs? They're quite
    simple beasts, and the development of complex systems
    during the Renaissance and Baroque is impressive
    testimony to instrument maker ingenuity.

    I've seen pictures of the mediaeval ones.... and for a while had the opportunity of playing on a fairly simple organ, a Hook and Hook
    one-manual tracker organ that some of us at our church had helped an
    organ builder rebuild... Even that was impressive testimony as to how
    even a simple organ could do very much more than one would have
    thought.... ;)

    we took Edith to Taste of Japan for a memorial meal, following taking
    her up to her vet's to put down her cat Nena... it just seemed like the right thing to do....
    Yeah, feed on something the cat would have appreciated.
    Sad, though, that scenario.
    She made a similar comment... my thought when suggesting it was mostly
    that it is one of her favorite places to go... and she obviously needed
    a little more time with friends around... worked out well...
    Glad; send my sympathies.

    I will. I should be seeing her on Sunday...

    On the plane yesterday she tried to put her headphone
    plug into the 110V outlet. It went in. Luckily there
    are fuses and such.
    Not good... when did she (or did she) figure it out...?
    She leaned across the barrier between our seats and
    complained, and so I unwrapped my own headset and
    plugged it into my jack, and it was fine. so then I got
    the flight attendant involved, who figured it out
    immediately.

    Good for the flight attendant... but that probably isn't a particularly uncommon occurance, sad to say... :)

    Perhaps the drummers and thighs also get cut into two or three pieces like the breast getting cut down...? I'd keep the giblets out of the stew, probably as cook's portion... ;) And, if one had 6 breast pieces, two wings, 4 drummer pieces and 6 thigh pieces, that would give the 16 pieces without adding in back and neck...
    Thighs maybe. A duck drumstick has very little meat, as do
    the wings. I don't see breaking them down into subparts.
    I wasn't suggesting breaking down the wings... if one didn't with the drummers either, I suppose one would have to add back in two back
    pieces... ;)
    I should have said "similarly to the wings"; anyhow,
    various duck appendages don't offer much nourishment
    but perhaps a bit of fun in the eating.

    True. :)

    ttyl neb

    ... Yesterday was the deadline for complaints.

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DAVE DRUM on Friday, August 23, 2019 22:57:00
    Quoting Dave Drum to Dale Shipp <=-
    they did a dreging operation to pull lake bottom up onto there
    shore. / what it did for sure was to make the lake water turn
    murky brown. There went the good swiming.

    And in this day and age there would be any number of lawyers and court injuctions to monetise any hard-feelings.

    In Canada you can't dredge lakes or rivers without all sorts of
    environmental impact studies, massive amounts of paperwork, three
    levels of government applications and subsequent approvals or the
    fines are heavy. Cottagers get nailed thousands and large mining
    companies millions. You can't even build a dock or drain wetlands
    without due process.

    Title: Poor-Man's Lobster (Lawyerfish) *
    * Lawyerfish aka burbot aka freshwater cod

    I know burbot as freshwater ling or cod but lawyerfish is a new term
    to me. They are quite common in my part of the world. We usually
    catch them in the wintertime through the ice using stinkbaits.



    Cheers

    Jim


    ... A Newfie went ice fishing and caught a 40 lb ice

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Jim Weller on Sunday, August 25, 2019 01:06:02
    On 08-23-19 22:57, Jim Weller <=-
    spoke to Dave Drum about Lakes <=-


    Quoting Dave Drum to Dale Shipp <=-
    they did a dreging operation to pull lake bottom up onto there
    shore. / what it did for sure was to make the lake water turn
    murky brown. There went the good swiming.

    And in this day and age there would be any number of lawyers and court injuctions to monetise any hard-feelings.

    In Canada you can't dredge lakes or rivers without all sorts of environmental impact studies, massive amounts of paperwork, three
    levels of government applications and subsequent approvals or the
    fines are heavy. Cottagers get nailed thousands and large mining
    companies millions. You can't even build a dock or drain wetlands
    without due process.

    That may well be true, and it should be. BUT, bear in mind that the
    incident of which I speak was circa 1947.


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    Title: Spicy Meat Pies with Yogurt Sauce
    Categories: Bake off, Sandwich
    Yield: 8 servings

    MMMMM---------------------------SAUCE--------------------------------
    1 c Plain yogurt
    1/2 ts Dried mint leaves
    1/4 ts Salt

    MMMMM--------------------------FILLING-------------------------------
    1/2 lb Ground lamb or beef
    1/2 c Chopped onion
    1/4 c Shredded carrot
    2 tb Pine nuts or slivered
    -almonds
    2 tb Chopped fresh parsley
    1/2 ts Dried mint leaves
    1/4 ts Dried oregano leaves
    1/4 ts Salt
    1/8 ts Pepper
    1 ts Grated lemon peel
    1 tb Lemon juice
    1 Garlic clove, minced

    MMMMM--------------------------BISCUITS-------------------------------
    1 Can Pillsbury Grands!
    -Refrigerated Buttermilk
    -or Flaky Biscuits
    1 ts Sesame seed

    In small bowl, combine all sauce ingredients. Let stand while making
    meat pies. Heat oven to 375 degrees. In large skillet over medium
    heat, cook lamb and onion until meat is no longer pink and onion is
    tender, stirring occasionally; drain. Add remaining filling
    ingredients; cook and stir for one minute. Remove from heat. Separate
    dough into 8 biscuits. Press or roll each biscuit into 5 inch circle.
    Place scant 1/4 c filling in center of each biscuit. Fold dough over
    filling to form half circle. Press edges together, seal with fork.
    Place on ungreased cookie sheet. Sprinkle tops with sesame seeds;
    lightly press into biscuits. Bake for 13 to 15 minutes or until
    golden brown. Immediately remove from cookie sheet. Serve hot meat
    pies with sauce. (1 cup sauce) Per pie: 300 calories, 11 g protein,
    28 g carbohydrate, 16 g fat, 22 mg cholesterol, 780 mg sodium. From
    the 36th Pillsbury Bake Off, by Julie Winter, Grosse Pointe Park MI
    Submitted By TERRI WOLTMON On 04-30-94 (2148)

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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Tuesday, August 27, 2019 22:34:00

    Quoting Dale Shipp to Jim Weller <=-

    In Canada you can't dredge lakes or rivers ...
    You can't even build a dock or drain wetlands
    without due process.

    the incident of which I speak was circa 1947.

    Oh right. We didn't start tightening up our usage with restrictions
    until 1967. Before then you could own land up to the waterline and
    even into the water. In a967 the federal government took control of
    the first 100' above the high water mark on all lakes and rivers with
    the exception of existing surveyed and privately owned lots. So all
    the cottage lots developed after that stop short of the water and
    one has to apply for a lease to use that strip even to cross it and
    get permission to add fill to it or build a dock on the far side of
    it. Destruction of wetlands or fish habitat and degrading of water
    quality is all generally forbidden.

    When looking up creamy seafood recipes that would be good for crepe
    fillings I came across this different from normal version of
    Coquilles St. Jacques.


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    Title: Coquilles Saint-Jacques
    Categories: Mushrooms, Crab, Shrimp, Scallops, Condiments
    Yield: 8 servings

    6 tb Butter
    3 tb Flour
    1/4 ts Dry mustard
    1/2 ts Lemon peel
    1/2 ts Bon Appetit
    1/2 ts Powdered horseradish
    2 c Light cream
    1/2 c Sliced mushrooms
    2 ts Instant minced onion
    1/2 lb Scallops
    1/2 lb Cleaned, cooked shrimp
    1/4 lb Crab meat
    2 tb Dry sherry
    Bread crumbs

    Melt 4 tbsp of the butter in saucepan. Add flour, dry mustard,
    lemon peel, Bon Appetit and powdered horseradish, then stir until
    well blended. Add cream. Cook, stirring, until thickened. Saute
    mushrooms and onion in the remaining 2 tbsp butter. Remove from
    pan with slotted spoon. To butter in pan add scallops, which have
    been cut into bite sized pieces, and saute 3 minutes. Cut shrimp
    into small pieces. Combine sauce, mushrooms, scallops, shrimp,
    crab meat and sherry. Spoon into shells or ramekins; top with
    bread crumbs. Bake in 400 oven for 10 minutes, then broil a few
    minutes until lightly browned.

    Source: Spices of the World Cookbook, by McCormick
    Shared by: Sharon Stevens

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    Cheers

    Jim


    ... Remember the seaweed is always greener in somebody else's lake!

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