Quoting Dave Drum to Jim Weller <=-
8 cornichons, finely minced
What are those?
A French [...] small, very sour gherkin pickle.
harvested when they are just 1 to 2 inches long and very skinny.
My maternal grandmother made a similar thing - only she called it a
"senf gherkin" (Pennsylvania Dutch).
Title: Senf Gherkins
5 qt Cucumbers or Gherkins
8 c Sugar
3/4 ts Turmeric
2 ts Whole mixed pickling spices
2 ts Vanilla; opt
JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-
8 cornichons, finely minced
What are those?
A French [...] small, very sour gherkin pickle.
harvested when they are just 1 to 2 inches long and very skinny.
My maternal grandmother made a similar thing - only she called it a
"senf gherkin" (Pennsylvania Dutch).
The term has come to mean different things in different countries.
Senf is German for "mustard".
Title: Senf Gherkins
5 qt Cucumbers or Gherkins
Gherkins and cucumbers are two similar and related but different vegetables.
8 c Sugar
French cornichons made with gherkins have little or no sugar in the pickling brine.
3/4 ts Turmeric
2 ts Whole mixed pickling spices
There is mustard seed in the pickling spices but the senf gherkins
I've encountered in Mennonite and Hutterite homes are very mustardy.
2 ts Vanilla; opt
That's an odd addition.
Maille brand French cornichons contain: gherkins, vinegar, spices
and herbs (onions, mustard seeds, coriander), salt and are very
sharp tasting and sour.
Quoting Dave Drum to Jim Weller <=-
cornichons [...] French [...] small, very sour gherkin pickle.
harvested when they are just 1 to 2 inches long and very skinny.
The gherkins I remember were about as large as my thumb (at
that time)
French cornichons [...] have little or no sugar
So were the senf gherkins my grandmother made. Talk about
pucker-power. I suspect that, although it's not called out in the
recipe I posted, the alum she added for "crispness" may have had
something to do with that.
The family cookbook that my grandmother kept and my mother had was
taken by my sister after Mom snuffed it. She gave it to one of her daughters and no has seen it since.
JIM WELLER wrote to DAVE DRUM <=-
cornichons [...] French [...] small, very sour gherkin pickle.
harvested when they are just 1 to 2 inches long and very skinny.
The gherkins I remember were about as large as my thumb (at
that time)
The Maille ones are barely 1 1/2" long and no more than 3/8" thick.
French cornichons [...] have little or no sugar
So were the senf gherkins my grandmother made. Talk about
pucker-power. I suspect that, although it's not called out in the
recipe I posted, the alum she added for "crispness" may have had
something to do with that.
My mom stopped using alum in pickles in the 1950s for a while when aluminum in food first got a bad rep. Friends of hers stopped using deodorants and threw out their aluminum cookware. (Subsequent
research debunked all the unfounded weird claims). Some alternatives
are: horseradish (root and leaves), lime (that's slaked lime,
calcium oxide and not quick lime, calcium hydroxide) or oak, sour
cherry leaves or grape leaves.
The family cookbook that my grandmother kept and my mother had was
taken by my sister after Mom snuffed it. She gave it to one of her daughters and no has seen it since.
Too bad. I have the one my mom started in 1935 in high school for
Home Ec. Part of the assignment was to interview her oldest living
female relatives and take notes, so some the family recipes can be
traced back to her parent's grandparents and great aunts. She
stopped the project in 1939 when she graduated but resumed it in
1947 when she got married and asked her MIL for Weller family
favorites. That petered off until 1962 when we all moved to
Ottawa and she made friends with Jewish, Swedish, Italian and
Polish ladies so started learning new things. The last entry was in
1965 and was actually a newspaper clipping and not a personal hand
written recipe.
I've posted this extract here before, long ago ...
MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.06
Title: Aunt Ellen's Cornish Pasties
Categories: British, Steak, Jw, Pies, Tnt
Yield: 1 Batch
... Saddest book title in the world: Vegan Cooking For One
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