• 797 overflowxn, oddities cotd

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:40:04
    On the day I'm typing this, I had an American waffle
    with Belgian chocolate on top for breakfast.
    Sounds good; I've given up on waffles and pancakes--too tempting to
    drench them in high sugar toppings (maple syrup, chocolate, etc) that
    are not good for me.

    Of course, but you could have done like me and spread
    dark chocolate, rather than syrup, over. The carbs in
    the waffle itself are problematic, but I made me a
    thin one, compromising between they're bad for me and
    "when in Belgium you have to have a waffle."

    Shipps. Other paraphernalia > ML> seems to > have vanished into the proverbial black hole.
    For sure.
    And I'm not holding my breath on the possibility of it showing up
    again.
    It's ceased to be our concern.
    Agreed, and at this point, is it really worth starting another
    "tradition"?

    Planning a tradition is kind of silly, though some
    "first annual" events actually get repeated.

    I think most days my calorie count is below 2000 for 3 meals. Adding
    ice > cream as a post supper treat will put it above that, but not by
    a huge > amount.
    For most people who don't have major exertions,
    especially smaller ones, 2000 is an oversufficiency.
    Quite so.

    I don't particularly want to, and there's no
    necessity yet.
    Good enough reasoning.
    The kicker would be if I run out of dough and brain
    cells at the same time.
    Good timing?

    Someone's tagline goes something like "the winner
    is the one who dies with the smallest bank balance."

    We did get up into the 90s for a few days. Not like
    the 100+ of a couple weeks ago.
    We've been upper 80s/low 90s, lower humidity but still will be nice when
    the heat of the summer backs off.

    When we hit Washington, it was in the 90 range,
    but Boston was only mid-80s.

    When going to my quartet sessions in Oceanside or wherever
    it is, Lilli's GPSes both take us to a closed gate, but
    we've learned how to get around the issue if not the gate.
    As I said, we addle its little pea brain at times. (G)
    Or it ours.
    We usually have a pretty good idea of where we want to go, just need the
    GPS for pinpointing directions for the most part.

    One can use Tom-Tom, which often tells you to turn
    after you've passed the intersection.

    Carp Gefilte Fish
    I saw a lot of this the summer I worked at a Jewish camp.
    Undoubtedly, but though it may at one time have been a
    source of cheap protein, it isn't any more.
    Probably not missed by most people anyway, except maybe the
    latest ML> > generations.
    I'm kind of fond of it, and I was never even Jewish.
    I'll leave it for the real connisoures.

    The ones who are sour, anyway.

    Speaking of something that once was a (relatively)
    cheap source of protein but is now a luxury item -
    Pepper Short Ribs
    Looks good, have to get some more wine tho.
    Ah, there are possible substitutes for that one, juices
    and such.
    Stock? Beef, pork or chicken?

    More like balsamic mixed with fruit juice. Stock
    maybe, but that misses the point of the dish. And
    pork stock severely misses the point.

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    Title: Calabaza #3
    Categories: Vegetables
    Yield: 4 Servings

    4 Bacon; chopped
    1 md Onion; chopped
    1 lg Tomato; peeled, chopped
    1 Zucchini; sliced and washed
    Salt and pepper to taste
    1/3 c Parmesan cheese; grated

    Fry, bacon until crisp, drain. Saut˙ onions in 2T drippings until soft.
    Add tomatoes and zucchini, season to taste. Cover and simmer until
    zucchini
    is just tender; about 10 minutes.
    Crumble bacon, stir into mixture, sprinkle with Parmesan cheese, place
    under broiler until brown, and serve. Another Stock household favorite...
    We have made this with various squashes... Shared with all 3/14/98 Mike
    and
    Karen Stock

    Contributor: Mike Stock Preparation Time: 00:20

    Source: Mike Stock, The Dinner Table

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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Thursday, August 15, 2019 15:12:22
    Hi Michael,

    On the day I'm typing this, I had an American waffle
    with Belgian chocolate on top for breakfast.
    Sounds good; I've given up on waffles and pancakes--too tempting to drench them in high sugar toppings (maple syrup, chocolate, etc)
    that > are not good for me.

    Of course, but you could have done like me and spread
    dark chocolate, rather than syrup, over. The carbs in
    the waffle itself are problematic, but I made me a
    thin one, compromising between they're bad for me and
    "when in Belgium you have to have a waffle."

    No, just give me the (dark) chocolate and I'll be happy.

    Shipps. Other paraphernalia > ML> seems to > have vanished
    into the > ML> proverbial black hole.
    For sure.
    And I'm not holding my breath on the possibility of it
    showing up > ML> again.
    It's ceased to be our concern.
    Agreed, and at this point, is it really worth starting another "tradition"?

    Planning a tradition is kind of silly, though some
    "first annual" events actually get repeated.

    And probably many more never make it to the second annual. The picnic
    has changed over the years, but keeping the word "picnic" in the
    description still honors the original gathering.

    The kicker would be if I run out of dough and brain
    cells at the same time.
    Good timing?

    Someone's tagline goes something like "the winner
    is the one who dies with the smallest bank balance."

    I've seen other lines with "the winner is..........." but the upshot is,
    you still die.

    We've been upper 80s/low 90s, lower humidity but still will be nice
    when > the heat of the summer backs off.

    When we hit Washington, it was in the 90 range,
    but Boston was only mid-80s.

    We've been upper 80s/low 90s the past few days with afternoon or evening thunderstorms. Should be cooler tho, next month for the picnic.

    When going to my quartet sessions in Oceanside or
    wherever > ML> > ML> it is, Lilli's GPSes both take us to a closed
    gate, but
    we've learned how to get around the issue if not the
    gate. > ML> > As I said, we addle its little pea brain at times. (G)
    Or it ours.
    We usually have a pretty good idea of where we want to go, just need
    the > GPS for pinpointing directions for the most part.

    One can use Tom-Tom, which often tells you to turn
    after you've passed the intersection.

    We've used Garmin or Google maps.

    Carp Gefilte Fish
    I saw a lot of this the summer I worked at a Jewish
    camp. > ML> > ML> Undoubtedly, but though it may at one time have
    been a
    source of cheap protein, it isn't any more.
    Probably not missed by most people anyway, except maybe the
    latest ML> > generations.
    I'm kind of fond of it, and I was never even Jewish.
    I'll leave it for the real connisoures.

    The ones who are sour, anyway.

    Same as sour pickles?

    Speaking of something that once was a (relatively)
    cheap source of protein but is now a luxury item -
    Pepper Short Ribs
    Looks good, have to get some more wine tho.
    Ah, there are possible substitutes for that one, juices
    and such.
    Stock? Beef, pork or chicken?

    More like balsamic mixed with fruit juice. Stock
    maybe, but that misses the point of the dish. And
    pork stock severely misses the point.

    OK, good enough.

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    Ruth
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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Ruth Haffly on Saturday, August 17, 2019 01:20:02
    On 08-15-19 15:12, Ruth Haffly <=-
    spoke to Michael Loo about 797 overflowxn, oddities <=-

    Planning a tradition is kind of silly, though some
    "first annual" events actually get repeated.

    And probably many more never make it to the second annual. The picnic
    has changed over the years, but keeping the word "picnic" in the description still honors the original gathering.

    True for both statements. We once went to a picnic in Seatle hosted by
    a previous moderator, Joann Pierce. She was well known for being a bit
    terse and rigid in her moderator style. As to the picnic, it was
    "picnic will be at <some park, I forget>, starting at 2pm and ending at
    7pm." (I'm guessing at the times, but you get the point). There was no consideration about getting together either before or after.

    The first picnic we went to was in Colt's Neck, NJ and was hosted by Pat Stockett. She was a nice person, but only a small group where invited to
    hang out with her at her mother's house. There we used crab necks to
    fish for crabs, many of the ones we kept were half the size of a legal
    crab in Maryland (5 inch point to point). Pat wanted to toss the very
    babies back in to let them grow up, but Jim Bodle insisted that we toss
    them into the cook pot. Pat became a co-moderator the year after that.

    The next picnic was the one we co-sponsered near Columbia at Helen's
    church. It had more than a hundred people at it in 100 degree weather.
    One of Carol Bryant's sons took a chop on a habenero -- and then
    disappeared into the woods for the next 30 minutes. Gail and I joined
    the moderator team the next year.

    BTW, I don't know if I have said so here but our dear Irish friend Helen
    died about a year ago.

    I recall when we went to the picnic hosted by the Fords in Newark NY, I
    freaked out Burton by telling him about the relationship between hosting
    a picnic and becoming a moderator.

    You could probably adapt this recipe using a fresh bread dough of your
    own liking.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Frozen Strombolli
    Categories: Bread, Sandwich
    Yield: 1 servings

    1 Frozen loaf of bread dough
    -Let thaw. Roll out dough
    -like a pie crust.
    -Fill with the following:
    1/4 lb Ham
    1/4 lb Cooked salami
    1/4 lb Hard salami
    1 Onion, sliced
    -Green peppers, sliced
    4 Tomatoes, sliced
    -Mushrooms, sliced
    1/4 ts Garlic salt
    1/2 ts Oregano
    1/4 ts Salt
    1/4 ts Pepper
    -grated mozzarella cheese.

    Fill dough with ingredients. Fold dough over filling like a jelly
    roll. Pinch dough ends tightly. Freeze or bake at 350 degrees for 30
    to 45 minutes.

    From: Lancaster Farming
    Shared By: Pat Stockett
    From: Sharon Stevens Date: 29 Mar 94

    MMMMM


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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to Dale Shipp on Saturday, August 17, 2019 20:03:10
    Hi Dale,

    Planning a tradition is kind of silly, though some
    "first annual" events actually get repeated.

    And probably many more never make it to the second annual. The picnic
    has changed over the years, but keeping the word "picnic" in the description still honors the original gathering.

    True for both statements. We once went to a picnic in Seatle hosted
    by a previous moderator, Joann Pierce. She was well known for being a
    bit terse and rigid in her moderator style. As to the picnic, it was "picnic will be at <some park, I forget>, starting at 2pm and ending
    at 7pm." (I'm guessing at the times, but you get the point). There
    was no consideration about getting together either before or after.

    Just part of a one day event, really only practical for those who either
    live in the area or happen to be in the area.

    The first picnic we went to was in Colt's Neck, NJ and was hosted by
    Pat Stockett. She was a nice person, but only a small group where
    invited to hang out with her at her mother's house. There we used
    crab necks to
    fish for crabs, many of the ones we kept were half the size of a legal crab in Maryland (5 inch point to point). Pat wanted to toss the very babies back in to let them grow up, but Jim Bodle insisted that we
    toss them into the cook pot. Pat became a co-moderator the year after that.

    That sounds like a lot more fun, but again, rather limited.

    The next picnic was the one we co-sponsered near Columbia at Helen's church. It had more than a hundred people at it in 100 degree weather.
    One of Carol Bryant's sons took a chop on a habenero -- and then disappeared into the woods for the next 30 minutes. Gail and I joined
    the moderator team the next year.

    I remember reading about that one while we were in AZ.

    BTW, I don't know if I have said so here but our dear Irish friend
    Helen died about a year ago.

    Sorry to hear that, she was a sweet lady.


    I recall when we went to the picnic hosted by the Fords in Newark NY,
    I freaked out Burton by telling him about the relationship between
    hosting a picnic and becoming a moderator.

    I can well imagine Burt's reaction. (G)


    You could probably adapt this recipe using a fresh bread dough of your
    own liking.


    Title: Frozen Strombolli
    Categories: Bread, Sandwich
    Yield: 1 servings

    1 Frozen loaf of bread dough
    -Let thaw. Roll out dough
    -like a pie crust.
    -Fill with the following:

    I probably would--and ought to make up some dough to keep in the freezer
    for doing something like this. The other alternative is to mix up a loaf
    in the bread machine on the dough only cycle. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm..........


    ---
    Catch you later,
    Ruth
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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Wednesday, August 21, 2019 19:47:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Ruth Haffly on 08-17-19 01:20 <=-

    The next picnic was the one we co-sponsered near Columbia at Helen's church. It had more than a hundred people at it in 100 degree weather.
    One of Carol Bryant's sons took a chop on a habenero -- and then disappeared into the woods for the next 30 minutes. Gail and I joined
    the moderator team the next year.
    BTW, I don't know if I have said so here but our dear Irish friend
    Helen died about a year ago.

    I don't think you had... and for whatever reason, I didn't remember
    knowing about it... sad that she's gone... I really enjoyed her...

    I recall when we went to the picnic hosted by the Fords in Newark NY,
    I freaked out Burton by telling him about the relationship between
    hosting a picnic and becoming a moderator.

    Yes.... and then you tried the same tactic on me, the first picnic I
    hosted... (G) Fortunately it isn't a rule... just was a happenstance...
    that happened to obtain more than once.... ;)

    ttyl neb

    ... May the forces of evil become confused on their way to your doorstep..

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Nancy Backus on Friday, August 23, 2019 02:18:00
    On 08-21-19 19:47, Nancy Backus <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Picnics <=-

    I recall when we went to the picnic hosted by the Fords in Newark NY,
    I freaked out Burton by telling him about the relationship between
    hosting a picnic and becoming a moderator.

    Yes.... and then you tried the same tactic on me, the first picnic I hosted... (G) Fortunately it isn't a rule... just was a
    happenstance... that happened to obtain more than once.... ;)

    What I can say is that every moderator has hosted a picnic, perhaps long
    before they became moderator. SO, that puts you in the running -- and
    soon to be Ruth. Still, not a rule though.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Rolled Calzones
    Categories: Italian, Sandwich, Pizza, Yeast, Bread
    Yield: 1 servings

    -For the Pizza Dough
    1/4 oz Active dry yeast
    1 1/4 c Warm water
    1/2 c Olive oil
    4 c Bread flour
    1 ts Salt
    -chopped fresh rosemary,
    -tarragon and oregano
    -For the filling
    2 oz Pesto
    1/4 lb Ham, thinly sliced
    1/4 lb Provolone cheese, sliced
    1/8 lb Coppacola (spicy italian
    -ham) thinly sliced
    2 Sweet red peppers, roasted,
    -peeled and sliced
    2 oz Pepperoncinis, drained and
    -chopped (6 - 8)
    1 Egg
    1 Egg white
    -cornmeal

    Soften the yeast in the water. Stir in the oil, then the flour and
    salt. Shape into a round ball, cover with plastic and refrigerate 1
    hour.

    Preheat oven to 400 degrees. Shape the pizza dough into a ball and
    then roll out into a large oval shape (about 24 inches long). About
    2 inches behind the front edge, spread the pesto in a long stripe,
    stopping just short of the ends.

    Just behind and overlapping the pesto, place a layer of the ham
    slices, then
    a layer of cheese then the coppacolla, peppers and pepperoncinis. You
    should still have about 2 inches of dough showing at the back edge.

    Beat the egg and brush on the back edge and ends of the dough.

    Roll up Calzone as firmly as possible (so no air gets inside). Tuck
    the ends
    in and finish with the back edge on the bottom, not on the side.

    Place on a baking sheet pan sprinkled with corn meal, brush with egg
    white and bake in a 400 degree oven for 20 minutes.

    Cool to room temperature and slice. Can be sliced thin for appetizers

    NOTE: To roast peppers, preheat broiler. Slice the peppers in half
    up on a flat broiling pan and place the pan 3 - 4 inches below the
    heat. Broil the peppers in a plastic bag, seal it with a twist tie
    and set aside. Let peppers steam in the bag for 15 minutes. Remove
    the peppers from the bag and slip off the charred skins.
    Source: Chef's Night out Cookbook
    Courtesy of: George Poston, Chef - Atwater's
    From: Joann Pierce
    From: Pat Stockett Date: 27 Jan 94

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Monday, August 26, 2019 21:06:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus on 08-23-19 02:18 <=-

    I recall when we went to the picnic hosted by the Fords in Newark NY,
    I freaked out Burton by telling him about the relationship between
    hosting a picnic and becoming a moderator.
    Yes.... and then you tried the same tactic on me, the first picnic I
    hosted... (G) Fortunately it isn't a rule... just was a
    happenstance... that happened to obtain more than once.... ;)

    What I can say is that every moderator has hosted a picnic, perhaps
    long before they became moderator. SO, that puts you in the running -- and soon to be Ruth. Still, not a rule though.

    And Steve, for that matter... ;) I'm pretty good at saying no, thank
    you... :) Is it a rule that one has to have hosted a picnic before
    becoming a moderator...? ;) (Different from saying that if one hosts a
    picnic they will become a moderator, of course...)

    ttyl neb

    ... If absolutely everything goes wrong ... take a nap.

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Nancy Backus on Wednesday, August 28, 2019 01:40:04
    On 08-26-19 21:06, Nancy Backus <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Picnics <=-

    What I can say is that every moderator has hosted a picnic, perhaps
    long before they became moderator. SO, that puts you in the running -- and soon to be Ruth. Still, not a rule though.

    And Steve, for that matter... ;) I'm pretty good at saying no, thank you... :) Is it a rule that one has to have hosted a picnic before becoming a moderator...? ;) (Different from saying that if one hosts
    a picnic they will become a moderator, of course...)

    Nope -- read the echo rules. I think it says something like the
    selection of a new moderator is at the descretion of the old moderator.


    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.05

    Title: Egg Salad Supreme
    Categories: Salads, Sandwich, Toh a/s 96
    Yield: 6 Servings

    3 oz Cheese, cream; softened
    1/4 c Mayonnaise/salad dressing
    1/2 c Mustard, prepared
    1/2 ts ;salt
    1/2 ts Dill weed
    Pepper, pinch of
    6 x Eggs; hard-cooked, chopped
    1/2 c Celery; chopped
    2 1/4 oz Olives, ripe; sliced, drain
    2 tb Onion; chopped
    1 tb Pimientos; chopped
    Bread; or pita bread

    In a bowl, combine the first six ingredients; mix well. Add eggs,
    celery, olives, onion and pimientos; mix well. Cover and chill for
    at least 1 hour. Serve on bread or pita bread, using about 1/2 cup
    for each sandwich.

    <Taste of Home - Aug/Sept 96>
    From: Margaret Young Date: 03-28-97
    Cooking

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to DALE SHIPP on Saturday, August 31, 2019 15:04:00
    Quoting Dale Shipp to Nancy Backus on 08-28-19 01:40 <=-

    What I can say is that every moderator has hosted a picnic, perhaps
    long before they became moderator. SO, that puts you in the running --
    and soon to be Ruth. Still, not a rule though.
    And Steve, for that matter... ;) I'm pretty good at saying no, thank
    you... :) Is it a rule that one has to have hosted a picnic before
    becoming a moderator...? ;) (Different from saying that if one
    hosts a picnic they will become a moderator, of course...)

    Nope -- read the echo rules. I think it says something like the
    selection of a new moderator is at the descretion of the old
    moderator.

    I know what the written rules say... ;) I should have been more
    specific... wondering if it was an unwritten rule... ;)

    ttyl neb

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