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    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to NANCY BACKUS on Sunday, August 11, 2019 10:23:46
    Ezetimibe works better in conjunction with statins.
    That may be, but Richard can not take statins at all...
    I wonder if the niacin therapy would go with
    ezetimibe, whether they'd augment each other
    or cancel.
    A very good question... Richard never tried the niacin, so I don't have
    any empirical data there to work with...

    The niacin only sort of worked for me, and even
    the flush-free heated me up big time. But for some
    people it's worth a try.

    I read the info on the clinical studies, though, and while ezetimibe
    made the statins work better, there was at least one study done just
    with the Zetia alone (on a group that weren't already taking statins,
    or couldn't take them, so that having some on placebo wouldn't be a
    case of removing them from care)... and patients on the Zetia alone
    did at least as well as those on the combination therapy, with fewer
    side effects... a very reassuring study for us...
    We have to be careful about picking and choosing
    studies, as that's what the drug companies and
    their advertisers do.
    I wasn't picking/choosing... that was but one of the clinical studies reported on in the "thin-paper" manufacturer's drug insert... :)

    That in itself is a pick and choose. Chosen by
    Astra Zeneca or whoever it was.

    True... including Leonardo Da Vinci... :)
    Probably many before him, too, but they all ended
    up a heap of bones at the bottom of a cliff.
    At least if they tried out their contraptions.... ;)
    I'm guessing that the true pioneers did their
    experiments without contraptions.
    Possibly... :)

    The record would have been erased long since.

    And that's an area that can benefit from having such... along with the amphibious ones... with the much vaster areas to be covered and the terrain and all.... :)
    Yeah, and flying might be more cost-effective
    than driving those distances.
    In some areas, to be sure... :) Definitely a time-saver... :)

    Yeah, and I neglected to say, if driving were in
    fact a viable possibility.

    The Carrefour viennoiseries (27c each in packs of 10)
    were inferior enough that I had to use up a substantial
    bit of the chocolate to remedy their shortcomings, though.
    Is this perhaps in France...?
    Indeed, though the first Carrefour I went to,
    with somewhat different inventory, such as
    durians, was in Singapore.
    A little far-flung... :)

    Well, so was I.

    Or too much underdone! Though I had a kebab that was
    too rare recently - that's because it was marinated,
    and raw marinade is not a great pleasure. Sadly, the
    beef, which didn't need marinade, was and was cooked
    rare, and the chicken breast, which did, wasn't and
    was cooked ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
    Sigh. Worst of both worlds....

    Indeed. I couldn't say anything, because Letitia's
    father chose the place (against my recommendation).
    The scorecard - Sue and Bob (Letitia's parents) got
    the prix fixe with steak, which was fine, but both
    ordered a point (medium) and both got them blue rare.
    I got the mixed grill - a nice pork rib, a skewer
    of almost raw marinated beef, and a skewer of chicken
    done so much that every Salmonella in the county must
    have died. Letitia and Bonnie both got the paella
    special, and I can't speak for Letitia, as we parted
    soon thereafter, but Bonnie got violently ill in a
    public space (luckily it was in a church courtyard,
    not the church itself).

    It was better than the (not bad) pate we got at the
    Super U.
    Doesn't really surprise me that much... :)
    An okay handmade product is generally going to
    beat out a good commercial one.
    And a good handmade one will for sure... ;)

    I call my pate "very decent," possibly on an
    inspired day good.

    MMMMM----- Recipe via Meal-Master (tm) v8.00

    Title: EASY CHOCOLATE TERRINE
    Categories: Italian, Desserts
    Yield: 10 servings

    8 oz German sweet chocolate
    1/3 c Water
    8 oz Pkg cream cheese, softened
    1/4 c Sugar
    2 ts Vanila
    12 oz Pkg whipped topping,
    Thawed (about 4-3/4 c)
    1 tb Milk
    2 tb Almond liqueur

    Lightly grease 8x4" loaf pan; line bottom and sides with waxed
    paper. Melt chocolate with water in saucepan over low heat, stirring
    constantly. Cool slightly. Beat cream cheese and sugar until smooth.
    Beat in vanilla and chocolate mixture. Fold in 3 C of the La Creme.
    Stir in milk. Spread into lined pan. Chill until firm, about 4 hours.
    Unmold and remove waxed paper. Add liqueur to remaining La Creme.
    Cut terrine into slices and serve with topping mixture.
    Source unknown. I don't see what's so Italian about it.

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Thursday, August 15, 2019 20:26:00
    Quoting Michael Loo to Nancy Backus on 08-11-19 10:23 <=-

    Ezetimibe works better in conjunction with statins.
    That may be, but Richard can not take statins at all...
    I wonder if the niacin therapy would go with
    ezetimibe, whether they'd augment each other
    or cancel.
    A very good question... Richard never tried the niacin, so I don't have
    any empirical data there to work with...
    The niacin only sort of worked for me, and even
    the flush-free heated me up big time. But for some
    people it's worth a try.

    I have known some that have used it with some success and others for
    whom it didn't work at all... but never tried it myself, nor have I been
    in on someone's use of it...

    I read the info on the clinical studies, though, and while ezetimibe
    made the statins work better, there was at least one study done just
    with the Zetia alone (on a group that weren't already taking statins,
    or couldn't take them, so that having some on placebo wouldn't be a
    case of removing them from care)... and patients on the Zetia alone
    did at least as well as those on the combination therapy, with fewer
    side effects... a very reassuring study for us...
    We have to be careful about picking and choosing
    studies, as that's what the drug companies and
    their advertisers do.
    I wasn't picking/choosing... that was but one of the clinical studies reported on in the "thin-paper" manufacturer's drug insert... :)
    That in itself is a pick and choose. Chosen by
    Astra Zeneca or whoever it was.

    I don't remember who it is that makes it... and I realize that there is
    some picking and choosing... but my experience has been that those
    reports do seem to accurately state the problems that people had with
    the drugs as well as the successes.... which is why I bother to read
    them...

    True... including Leonardo Da Vinci... :)
    Probably many before him, too, but they all ended
    up a heap of bones at the bottom of a cliff.
    At least if they tried out their contraptions.... ;)
    I'm guessing that the true pioneers did their
    experiments without contraptions.
    Possibly... :)
    The record would have been erased long since.

    No doubt... :)

    And that's an area that can benefit from having such... along with the amphibious ones... with the much vaster areas to be covered and the terrain and all.... :)
    Yeah, and flying might be more cost-effective
    than driving those distances.
    In some areas, to be sure... :) Definitely a time-saver... :)
    Yeah, and I neglected to say, if driving were in
    fact a viable possibility.

    Indeed... and I was certainly thinking that part of it too... ;)

    The Carrefour viennoiseries (27c each in packs of 10)
    were inferior enough that I had to use up a substantial
    bit of the chocolate to remedy their shortcomings, though.
    Is this perhaps in France...?
    Indeed, though the first Carrefour I went to,
    with somewhat different inventory, such as
    durians, was in Singapore.
    A little far-flung... :)
    Well, so was I.

    True. ;)

    Or too much underdone! Though I had a kebab that was
    too rare recently - that's because it was marinated,
    and raw marinade is not a great pleasure. Sadly, the
    beef, which didn't need marinade, was and was cooked
    rare, and the chicken breast, which did, wasn't and
    was cooked ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
    Sigh. Worst of both worlds....
    Indeed. I couldn't say anything, because Letitia's
    father chose the place (against my recommendation).
    The scorecard - Sue and Bob (Letitia's parents) got
    the prix fixe with steak, which was fine, but both
    ordered a point (medium) and both got them blue rare.

    Too bad they probably didn't appreciate the goodness...

    I got the mixed grill - a nice pork rib, a skewer
    of almost raw marinated beef, and a skewer of chicken
    done so much that every Salmonella in the county must
    have died. Letitia and Bonnie both got the paella
    special, and I can't speak for Letitia, as we parted
    soon thereafter, but Bonnie got violently ill in a
    public space (luckily it was in a church courtyard,
    not the church itself).

    Oh dear.... sounds like the special was specially bad... at least you
    got a nice pork rib with your mixed grill....

    It was better than the (not bad) pate we got at the
    Super U.
    Doesn't really surprise me that much... :)
    An okay handmade product is generally going to
    beat out a good commercial one.
    And a good handmade one will for sure... ;)
    I call my pate "very decent," possibly on an
    inspired day good.

    Good enough to beat out the commercial competition... :)

    Title: EASY CHOCOLATE TERRINE
    Categories: Italian, Desserts
    Source unknown. I don't see what's so Italian about it.

    Maybe the unknown source had been Italian....?

    ttyl neb

    ... Actually we're all semi-normal, except for the food obsession thing.

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