• 654 Vino

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to JIM WELLER on Wednesday, July 10, 2019 04:22:48
    cheap, nasty, domestic, imitation German wine called Schloss.
    We used to (in some cases still do)
    have foreign-sounding so-called wines with names such as
    Sauterne
    Canada, along with Australia, New Zealand and South Africa got on
    board with the EU some time ago and banned the use of terms like
    Sherry, Port, Champagne, Burgundy and Chablis for domestic wines. So
    did the USA except that you grandfathered existing brands and just
    prevented the creation of new ones.

    There's still plenty of room for deception, though,
    and it's only due to the efforts of the wine media
    that more cheats aren't available (plenty are, of
    course, with my most recent encounter being the
    Birichino Grenache, which is styled in every way as
    an Italian product except for the product itself,
    which is a perfectly respectable Meduterranean-
    style wine, more Frenchoid than Italianoid, grown
    and made just south of San Jose, California. More
    on that perhaps later.

    Napa and Sonoma Counties in California also wanted
    to protect the local wine industry, but they did so
    by ensuring fairly high minimum standards. In the
    long run this proved to be a good path.
    So did some Canadian winemakers. We do not have AOC type
    designations but do have the industry driven VQA
    designation which is short for Vintner's Quality Assurance.

    I'm familiar with a couple nonappellation appellations,
    Okanagan or however you spell it Valley and of course
    Niagara for sweet wines but was never sure about the
    legal ins and outs.

    Funny thing is that Peller is capable of producing
    quite decent wines, including continent- if not
    world-class sweeties.
    But declines to drop the nasty stuff that got them started back in
    the bad old days,

    Well, it's paying honor to their heritage, I guess.
    Plus it's got to be a great way of taking surplus
    juice and making it into a profit center.

    Speaking of bad Chablis ...
    "The wide semi-generic use of the word "Chablis" outside of France
    is still seen in describing almost any white wine, regardless of
    where it was made and from what grapes."

    Yeah. You get American Chablis made out of excess
    table grapes, though lately I'm told there's enough
    Muscat production to blend in a little flavor.

    "Chablis is one of the most famous names in white wine, so
    after Prohibition, big American wine producers appropriated the
    name for their white wines, a practice that continues today with the
    cheapest jug wines."

    I believe that a reputable winery here isn't going
    to call anything Chablis, though.

    "If you are a small vintner that doesn't sell outside the state in
    which you produce the wine, and thus do not have a federal excise
    tax stamp, you can still call your wine a Chablis even if it's made
    from leftover fruit salad from the school cafeteria lunch line. You
    won't be able to sell it across state lines or export it, but if
    that doesn't matter to you ..."

    What is the name of that prison homebrew again?

    As well as Schloss I vaguely recall buying and drinking my first
    bottle of so-called Chablis. It was soft, fruity and sweet! It may
    have been Paul Masson; I don't remember anymore but it did come from California, not Burgundy.

    Paul Masson was certainly not the worst nor the sweetest.

    I noted these two atrocities last night while looking for the above
    quotes:
    Capri American Chablis by Constellation Brands has residual sugar
    of 17.5 g/L

    Here I am within an hour's drive of that company's
    headquarters. A field trip opportunity, perhaps?

    and Paul Masson Chablis claims: "(learn about health benefits or
    risks)
    Rich in vitamins and minerals - a good source of Vitamin B6,
    Vitamin C, Vitamin B12, Vitamin E, Phosphorus, Calcium, Potassium,
    Zinc and Selenium.
    Does not contain any risky components such as sodium, cholesterol,
    saturated fat and added sugar!"

    Well, what fun are they?

    ... With its aura of cultural authenticity hipsters will overpay for it.

    And yet "fusion" is also a big seller.

    Gefilte Marinara
    categories: KfP, fish, fusion, Italian, semi-homemade, wwtt
    servings: 8

    1 (22 oz) loaf frozen gefilte fish
    1 Tb garlic powder
    1 Tb onion powder
    1 md onion, chopped
    - or 1 c frozen chopped onions
    1 (26 oz) jar prepared marinara sauce

    Preheat oven to 350F. Spray a 9x5x3" loaf pan
    with nonstick cooking spray.

    Rinse frozen gefilte loaf under water to remove
    parchment wrapper and place in prepared pan.
    Sprinkle fish with garlic and onion powder.
    Cover with chopped onion. Pour marinara sauce
    over fish, spreading to thickly coat the top.

    Cover pan with aluminum foil and bake 2 hr.

    Transfer fish to a sealable container, cover
    and refrigerate until cold, at least 4 hr.

    By Jamie Geller, chabad.org
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  • From JIM WELLER@1:123/140 to MICHAEL LOO on Saturday, July 13, 2019 17:30:00

    Quoting Michael Loo to Jim Weller <=-

    What is the name of that prison homebrew again?

    It has many names. One of them is "Pruno".

    bottle of so-called Chablis. It was soft, fruity and sweet! It
    may have been Paul Masson; I don't remember anymore but it did
    come from California, not Burgundy.

    Paul Masson was certainly not the worst nor the sweetest.

    I did not dislike it as I am fond of off dry whites such as
    Riesling. But it mislead me as to what Chablis really is for
    years. When I first tasted a bone dry, flinty, steely Burgundy
    Chablis I was shocked. And that experience lead me to do some
    reading on the subject!

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    Title: Blaue Zipfel (Frankonian Sour Bratwurst)
    Categories: German, Sausages, Wine
    Servings: 4

    1 l water
    1/2 l white wine
    1/2 l vinegar
    5 md onions, cut in rings
    10 juniper berries
    2 bay leaves
    1/2 ts peppercorn
    2 TB sugar
    1 pn salt
    20 sm Nuernberger bratwursts

    Put everything in a big pot other than the sausages and bring to a
    boil. When boiling, add sausage and reduce to a simmer. Cook for
    about 30 minutes. Serve in a bowl with fresh soft pretzels or good
    baguette.

    From: Geniuskitchen.Com

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    Cheers

    Jim


    ... Alcohol is the liquid that puts the wreck in recreation.

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