• 599 picnics was overf +

    From MICHAEL LOO@1:123/140 to RUTH HAFFLY on Friday, June 28, 2019 02:30:46
    Oh, yeah, I too am extremely fond of scallops, just
    not so much of the ones you get nowadays. At G&M the
    other day the scallops were about on a par with
    average ones from olden times, which means as good as
    exceptional ones of this millennium. They were drys;
    the difference between them and solution-soaked is
    striking. Even greater than with meat or poultry.
    All these interesting bits of information............

    Stick with me, kid.

    I'm not sure what the allowable percentage of added water
    is in various foodstuffs. For uncured seafood and meats,
    I think it should be zero.

    Essentially, you deep-fry it and accompany it
    with a strong garlicky dip. As has been pointed
    Garlicky dip helps a number of things taste better. (G)
    Pity those, such as adherents of certain Hindu sects,
    who are forbidden garlic and onions.
    Doesn't bother them if they've never experienced it. But, once they've

    Possible. I have a hard time imagining a life that has not
    experienced at least the aroma.

    had a taste of the good stuff, it's hard to give it up again.

    There are those, too. Like my high-school dreamboat's father,
    who became allergic to alliums later on in life.

    The Mexican guy might have done a bunch of research,
    too; at least he implies that he's done so. Only
    he's put in a lot of intential clinamens that render
    his accounts more than a little suspect. Most authors
    do at least some of that but not to this degree.
    Just depends on what you are looking for in your reading.

    For me, a modicum of truth helps a lot.

    again. > ML> If you get on maybe I'll even start watching.
    Deal!
    If it happens, tell us when you'll be on.
    Will do, of course.

    Expecting it.

    It's about double the usual amount. The little cups are about 2 oz,
    or a > quarter cup.
    Barring problems, a couple tablespoons should suffice.
    IOW, about 1/8 of a cup. Usually more than enough sauce for me, most of
    the time anyway but sometimes I might want a bit more.

    As we've noted before, it depends on the quality of
    the food to be enhanced or hidden.

    Trying to get back to normal with it, and right now it's actually
    better > than it was after the initial injury. I've not tried kneeling on it but > it has gotten a good work out otherwise.
    Perhaps start off on a cushion.
    Good thought there; might talk with my therapist about it tomorrow.

    I hope s/he'll agree.

    there booze in the recipe that you had to go
    off and find a substitute for?
    No booze in the recipe.
    Extract? I wouldn't trust a mincemeat or a fruitcake
    that didn't at least remind me of booze.
    No, so this is more of a mock mincemeat. But, it's the one Steve's mom
    used for cookies, pies and such like for years so it's the preferred one around here as well.

    Pretty much all mincemeat is mock these days, in
    one way or another.

    A 19th-century recipe
    categories: historical, mincemeat, meat, sweet, booze
    yield: 1 batch

    2 lb raisins
    3 lb currants
    1 1/2 lb lean beef
    3 lb beef suet
    2 lb moist sugar
    2 oz citron
    2 oz candied lemon peel
    2 oz candied orange peel
    1 sm nutmeg
    2 qt apples
    2 lemons, zest of
    1 lemon, juice of
    ​1 c brandy

    Stone and cut the raisins once or twice across, but do
    not chop them; wash, dry and pick the currants free
    from stalks and grit, and mince the beef and suet,
    taking care the latter is chopped very fine; slice
    the citron and candied peel, grate the nutmeg, and
    pare, core and mince the apples; mince the lemon peel,
    strain the juice and when all the ingredients are thus
    prepared, mix them well together, adding the brandy
    when the other things are well blended; press the
    whole into a jar, carefully exclude the air, and the
    mincemeat will be ready for use in a fortnight.

    Source: Wikipedia, retrieved 6/27/19

    Regular beef fat from the abdominal area is suet.
    Rib fat is about indistinguishable, and chuck fat
    is about as good. Especially if rendered.
    I'd read that it was fat specifically from around the kidneys. Still,
    any fat from the abdominal area was nigh on to impossible to obtain so regular beef fat worked quite well.

    I've seen kidney suet distinguished from other suet,
    but, yes, in standard usage, suet means kidney suet.
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  • From Ruth Haffly@1:396/45.28 to MICHAEL LOO on Friday, June 28, 2019 14:39:29
    Hi Michael,

    exceptional ones of this millennium. They were drys;
    the difference between them and solution-soaked is
    striking. Even greater than with meat or poultry.
    All these interesting bits of information............

    Stick with me, kid.

    I'm not sure what the allowable percentage of added water
    is in various foodstuffs. For uncured seafood and meats,
    I think it should be zero.

    Agreed, we're trying to avoid getting meats with water (especially salt
    water) added.

    Essentially, you deep-fry it and accompany
    it > ML> > ML> > ML> > ML> with a strong garlicky dip. As has been pointed > ML> > Garlicky dip helps a number of things taste better.
    (G)
    Pity those, such as adherents of certain Hindu sects,
    who are forbidden garlic and onions.
    Doesn't bother them if they've never experienced it. But, once
    they've

    Possible. I have a hard time imagining a life that has not
    experienced at least the aroma.

    had a taste of the good stuff, it's hard to give it up again.

    There are those, too. Like my high-school dreamboat's father,
    who became allergic to alliums later on in life.

    If he was a big eater of it before developing the allergy, he'd be
    missing the stuff big time! OTOH, if he didn't eat that much of it
    before, he'd not miss it hardly at all.

    The Mexican guy might have done a bunch of research,
    too; at least he implies that he's done so. Only
    he's put in a lot of intential clinamens that render
    his accounts more than a little suspect. Most authors
    do at least some of that but not to this degree.
    Just depends on what you are looking for in your reading.

    For me, a modicum of truth helps a lot.

    Especially if the book is supposed to be based on reality.

    again. > ML> If you get on maybe I'll even start watching.
    Deal!
    If it happens, tell us when you'll be on.
    Will do, of course.

    Expecting it.

    Means I'd best take the on line test next time it's offered.


    It's about double the usual amount. The little cups are about
    2 oz, > ML> or a > quarter cup.
    Barring problems, a couple tablespoons should suffice.
    IOW, about 1/8 of a cup. Usually more than enough sauce for me, most
    of > the time anyway but sometimes I might want a bit more.

    Correction--smallest cups look to be about 1/8 cup or 2 tablespoons. We
    have some in the kitchen that get used from time to time.

    As we've noted before, it depends on the quality of
    the food to be enhanced or hidden.

    Exctly so!

    Trying to get back to normal with it, and right now it's
    actually > ML> better > than it was after the initial injury. I've
    not tried kneeling > ML> on it but > it has gotten a good work out otherwise.
    Perhaps start off on a cushion.
    Good thought there; might talk with my therapist about it tomorrow.

    I hope s/he'll agree.

    Forgot to ask Wednesday but go back on Monday so will ask then.


    there booze in the recipe that you had to go
    off and find a substitute for?
    No booze in the recipe.
    Extract? I wouldn't trust a mincemeat or a fruitcake
    that didn't at least remind me of booze.
    No, so this is more of a mock mincemeat. But, it's the one Steve's
    mom > used for cookies, pies and such like for years so it's the
    preferred one > around here as well.

    Pretty much all mincemeat is mock these days, in
    one way or another.

    Since this one is based on green tomatoes, there's no meat in it.

    Regular beef fat from the abdominal area is suet.
    Rib fat is about indistinguishable, and chuck fat
    is about as good. Especially if rendered.
    I'd read that it was fat specifically from around the kidneys.
    Still, > any fat from the abdominal area was nigh on to impossible to obtain so > regular beef fat worked quite well.

    I've seen kidney suet distinguished from other suet,
    but, yes, in standard usage, suet means kidney suet.

    Which was impossible to find in Sierra Vista in the mid 90s.

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    Ruth
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