With a raw or really really rare piece of meat,
I rather enjoy lean, but as soon as the grain
develops, I'm needing that fat.

I guess I wouldn't say I need the fat, but I certainly do enjoy it... ;)

Insofar as anyone needs anything, I say I need the fat.
It's more the taste than anything else.

That's certainly the case for me with milk.... hadn't paid that much attention to meat and fat...

Of course there's no such thing as totally fatfree
meat unless one uses solvent on it, but I'll say
that anything under 10% fat tastes kind of weird at
best. As the percentage of fat increases, the flavor
profiles change, and I'd be willing to guess that
people's preferences are farther along the line than
they would think. My hypothesis is that if you think
you like 90-95, you probably really like 85-ish, and so
on down the line. I frankly prefer at least a quarter fat,
up to (as some of you have seen) almost all fat. Except
raw, where lean is perhaps preferable. I never saw the
point of wagyu sashimi, for example.

On special occasions when I was a kid we'd get a
porterhouse, and my father would go for the tenderloin,
and I'd ask for a piece of the "toughloin" and would
always be corrected for the neologism. We had one of
those ovens with the broiler unit beneath heating to
maybe 500F, so the meat sort of broiled and sort of
stewed, so the sirloin was actually kind of a toughloin.

And so, made perfect sense to call it such....

For the longest time I preferred meat with a considerable
chew, so chuck was ideal for me, though round if raw, and
truth be told, there's seldom any kind of beef I'll turn down.

My mother would always take the fat and gristle with an
air of self-abnegation, and it was a while before my
sister and I discovered that those parts were at least
as tasty as the sirloin and definitely more so than the
tenderloin, which at its best tastes sort of like liver
and at its worst tastes sort of like nothing.

Looks like your mother had at least that good inflence on you... :)

Some good things, especially culinarily, but in other
arenas of life, mostly not so good.

Looks good, might try making it--and yes, I've got white wine vinegar (as well as red) in my pantry.

Is that a hint? It could be done, but again
memory has to be jogged.

Saved, but no promise of jogging... ;)

I'm not expecting to make the stuff, but if I do, the
ingredients are spuds, garlic, oil, and white or wine
vinegar or lemon. Salt to taste.

Maybe Ruth will make it... :)

I've made it at least twice for echo picnics already.

... "Are you mad?" - "Only when the moon is full."

"Are you mad?" - "Only when my glass is empty."

Different sort of mad, probably... :)

Perhaps.

semantics. My views would hae been better reflected
if Shakespeare had written First, we kill all the
dishonest lawyers and leave ten or twenty honest
ones to prevent their extinction.

Reminds me of the tagline (which probably isn't on this computer) about
90% of lawyers give the other 10% a bad name.... At one time in MEMORIES
we had a lawyer (presumably one of the good honest ones) as a regular
poster, so I was careful not to use my derogatory lawyer taglines... generally still I avoid using them... snag them, still, though... ;)

I suspect that an honest lawyer will at least chuckle
at such, the same as most competent viola players will
snigger at viola jokes. There was a bit of a debate in
the Journal of the American Viola Society in which people
lined up on one side or the other (I didn't participate,
being a sort of Gastarbeiter in that world). Among the
luminaries, I seem to recall Paul Neubauer being in favor
of them and Robert Vernon an implacable foe, though there
is a tiny chance I got them backwards. Of my friend viola
players, My bud Ella Lou (principal at Cape Ann and Symphony
by the Sea) was a huge fan and Susan Bill (principal at
Cape Cod) a vocal foe. I seem to recall Patty McCarty was
publicly against but would tell the occasional viola joke
during our get-togethers, presumably when her students were
being particularly irksome.

If you tot them up, the rule probably has more
exceptions than adherents. Speaking of all these
things, you know that whether something ends in
-ent or -ant depends on the conjugation of the
Latin original, with one signal exception, that
being defendant, which evolved because not only
are lawyers liars, they don't know their Latin.

Interesting theory.... :)

That the spelling depends on the Latin conjugation?
That's demonstrated. That lawyers don't know what
they're talking about, that's demonstrated too.

Advocaat
categories: Punch, Dutch, copycat
servings: 24

24 Eggs
4 c Sugar
4 Tb Vanilla
26 oz Vodka

Heat gently and whip until smooth.

Attributed to Drinks for the 21st Century
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