• FB Part 1

    From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to All on Thursday, April 11, 2019 12:09:04
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    Facebook's history betrays its privacy pivot

    Posted: March 20, 2019 by David Ruiz

    Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg proposed a radical pivot for his company this month: it would start caring-really-about privacy, building out a new version of the platform that turns Facebook less into a public, open "town square" and more into a private, intimate "living room."

    Zuckerberg promised end-to-end encryption across the company's messaging platforms, interoperability, disappearing messages, posts, and photos for users, and a commitment to store less user data, while also refusing to put that data in countries with poor human rights records.

    If carried out, these promises could bring user privacy front and center.

    But Zuckerberg's promises have exhausted users, privacy advocates, technologists, and industry experts, including those of us at Malwarebytes. Respecting user privacy makes for a better Internet, period. And Zuckerberg's proposals are absolutely a step in the right direction. Unfortunately, there is
    a chasm between Zuckerberg's privacy proposal and Facebook's privacy success. Given Zuckerberg's past performance, we doubt that he will actually deliver, and we blame no user who feels the same way.

    The outside response to Zuckerberg's announcement was swift and critical.

    One early Facebook investor called the move a PR stunt. Veteran tech journalist
    Kara Swisher jabbed Facebook for a "shoplift" of a competitor's better idea. Digital rights group Electronic Frontier Foundation said it would believe in a truly private Facebook when it sees it, and Austrian online privacy rights activist (and thorn in Facebook's side) Max Schrems laughed at what he saw as hypocrisy: merging users' metadata across WhatsApp, Facebook, and Instagram, and telling users it was for their own, private good.

    The biggest obstacle to believing Zuckerberg's words? For many, it's Facebook's
    history.

    The very idea of a privacy-protective Facebook goes so against the public's understanding of the company that Zuckerberg's comments taste downright unpalatable. These promises are coming from a man whose crisis-management statements often lack the words "sorry" or "apology." A man who, when his company was trying to contain its own understanding of a foreign intelligence disinformation campaign, played would-be president, touring America for a so-called "listening tour."

    Users, understandably, expect better. They expect companies to protect their privacy. But can Facebook actually live up to that?
    "The future of the Internet"

    Zuckerberg opens his appeal with a shaky claim-that he has focused his attention in recent years on "understanding and addressing the biggest challenges facing Facebook." According to Zuckerberg, "this means taking positions on important issues concerning the future of the Internet."

    Facebook's vision of the future of the Internet has, at times, been largely positive. Facebook routinely supports net neutrality, and last year, the company opposed a dangerous, anti-encryption, anti-security law in Australia that could force companies around the world to comply with secret government orders to spy on users.

    But Facebook's lobbying record also reveals a future of the Internet that is, for some, less secure.

    Last year, Facebook supported one half of a pair of sibling bills that eventually merged into one law. The law followed a convoluted, circuitous route, but its impact today is clear: Consensual sex workers have found their online communities wiped out, and are once again pushed into the streets, away from guidance and support, and potentially back into the hands of predators.

    "The bill is killing us," said one sex worker to The Huffington Post.

    Though the law was ostensibly meant to protect sex trafficking victims, it has only made their lives worse, according to some sex worker advocates.

    On March 21, 2018, the US Senate passed the Allow States and Victims to Fight Online Sex Trafficking (FOSTA) bill. The bill was the product of an earlier version of its own namesake, and a separate, related bill, called the Stop Enabling Sex Traffickers Act (SESTA). Despite clear warnings from digital rights groups and sex positive advocates, Facebook supported SESTA in November 2017. According to the New York Times, Facebook made this calculated move to curry favor amongst some of its fiercest critics in US politics.

    "[The] sex trafficking bill was championed by Senator John Thune, a Republican of South Dakota who had pummeled Facebook over accusations that it censored conservative content, and Senator Richard Blumenthal, a Connecticut Democrat and senior commerce committee member who was a frequent critic of Facebook," the article said. "Facebook broke ranks with other tech companies, hoping the move would help repair relations on both sides of the aisle, said two congressional staffers and three tech industry officials."

    Last October, the bill came back to haunt the social media giant: a Jane Doe plaintiff in Texas sued Facebook for failing to protect her from sex traffickers.

    Further in Zuckerberg's essay, he promises that Facebook will continue to refuse to build data centers in countries with poor human rights records.

    Zuckerberg's concern is welcome and his cautions are well-placed. As the Internet has evolved, so has data storage. Users' online profiles, photos, videos, and messages can travel across various servers located in countries around the world, away from a company's headquarters. But this development poses a challenge. Placing people's data in countries with fewer privacy protections-and potentially oppressive government regimes-puts everyone's private, online lives at risk. As Zuckerberg said:

    "[S]toring data in more countries also establishes a precedent that emboldens other governments to seek greater access to their citizen's data and therefore weakens privacy and security protections for people around the world," Zuckerberg said.

    But what Zuckerberg says and what Facebook supports are at odds.

    Last year, Facebook supported the CLOUD Act, a law that lowered privacy protections around the world by allowing foreign governments to directly request companies for their citizens' online data. It is a law that, according to Electronic Frontier Foundation, could result in UK police inadvertently getting their hands on Slack messages written by an American, and then forwarding those messages to US police, who could then charge that American with a crime-all without a warrant.

    The same day that the CLOUD Act was first introduced as a bill, it received immediate support from Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Apple, and Oath (formerly Yahoo). Digital rights groups, civil liberties advocates, and human rights organizations directly opposed the bill soon after. None of their efforts swayed the technology giants. The CLOUD Act became law just months after its introduction.

    While Zuckerberg's push to keep data out of human-rights-abusing countries is a
    step in the right direction for protecting global privacy, his company supported a law that could result in the opposite. The CLOUD Act does not meaningfully hinge on a country's human rights record. Instead, it hinges on backroom negotiations between governments, away from public view.

    The future of the Internet is already here, and Facebook is partially responsible for the way it looks.
    Skepticism over Facebook's origin story 2.0

    For years, Zuckerberg told anyone who would listen-including US Senators hungry
    for answers-that he started Facebook in his Harvard dorm room. This innocent retelling involves a young, doe-eyed Zuckerberg who doesn't care about starting
    a business, but rather, about connecting people.

    Connection, Zuckerberg has repeated, was the ultimate mission. This singular vision was once employed by a company executive to hand-wave away human death for the "*de facto* good" of connecting people.

    But Zuckerberg's latest statement adds a new purpose, or wrinkle, to the Facebook mission: privacy.

    "Privacy gives people the freedom to be themselves and connect more naturally, which is why we build social networks," Zuckerberg said.

    Several experts see ulterior motives.

    Kara Swisher, the executive editor of Recode, said that Facebook's re-steering is probably an attempt to remain relevant with younger users. Online privacy, data shows, is a top concern for that demographic. But caring about privacy, Swisher said, "was never part of [Facebook's] DNA, except perhaps as a throwaway line in a news release."

    Ashkan Soltani, former chief technology officer of the Federal Trade Commission, said that Zuckerberg's ideas were obvious attempts to leverage privacy as a competitive edge.

    "I strongly support consumer privacy when communicating online but this move is
    entirely a strategic play to use privacy as a competitive advantage and further
    lock-in Facebook as the dominant messaging platform," Soltani said on Twitter.

    As to the commitment to staying out of countries that violate human rights, Riana Pfefferkorn, associate director of surveillance and cybersecurity at Stanford Law School's Center for Internet and Society, pressed harder.

    "I don't know what standards they're using to determine who are human rights abusers," Pfefferkorn said in a phone interview. "If it's the list of countries
    that the US has sanctioned, where they won't allow exports, that's a short list. But if you have every country that's ever put dissidents in prison, then that starts some much harder questions."

    For instance, what will Facebook do if it wants to enter a country that, on paper, protects human rights, but in practice, utilizes oppressive laws against
    its citizens? Will Facebook preserve its new privacy model and forgo the market
    entirely? Or will it bend?

    "We'll see about that," Pfefferkorn said in an earlier email. "[Zuckerberg] is answerable to shareholders and to the tyranny of the #1 rule: growth, growth, growth."

    Asked whether Facebook's pivot will succeed, Pfefferkorn said the company has definitely made some important hires to help out. In the past year, Facebook brought aboard three critics and digital rights experts-one from EFF, one from New American's Open Technology Institute, and another from AccessNow-into lead policy roles. Further, Pfefferkorn said, Facebook has successfully pushed out enormous, privacy-forward projects before.


    Regards,

    Roger

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Roger Nelson on Friday, April 12, 2019 01:39:00
    Hello Roger!

    ** 11.04.19 - 12:09, Roger Nelson wrote to All:

    Facebook's history betrays its privacy pivot
    Posted: March 20, 2019 by David Ruiz

    Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg proposed a radical pivot for his company..


    I have gradually lost favour in FB over the years. However, it seems to remain a favourite among some of my friends and family to quickly post a picture or something - but often without any context with it.

    FB is essentially a kind of bbs but at the sacrifice of ads and a branded look to everything. People love it because it empowers them to think
    they've got their own website. Meanwhile, users dump all kinds of
    personal info onto it, and FB enjoys monetizing *your* data.

    With all the privacy and targetted ads issues, I've just started to see FB
    as a grand surveilllance experiment that I would rather not be part of.

    Has anyone here clicked on the ads they offer on the right side of the screen?

    I hate the way FB picks up on some of the "shared posts" videos that I
    watch from my friends, and then find a whole wack of similar stuff the
    next time I go to YouTube.


    ../|ug

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to August Abolins on Friday, April 12, 2019 08:49:26

    On 2019 Apr 12 01:39:00, you wrote to Roger Nelson:

    FB is essentially a kind of bbs but at the sacrifice of ads and a branded look to everything. People love it because it empowers them to think they've got their own website.

    that's the problem... thinking instead of understanding...

    Meanwhile, users dump all kinds of personal info onto it, and FB
    enjoys monetizing *your* data.

    that was the original goal... i mean, look who created it and what it was created for...

    With all the privacy and targetted ads issues, I've just started to
    see FB as a grand surveilllance experiment that I would rather not be
    part of.

    see my comment above...

    Has anyone here clicked on the ads they offer on the right side of the screen?

    what ads?? NEVER /ever/ *ever* click on ads, period! */ever/*...

    I hate the way FB picks up on some of the "shared posts" videos that I watch from my friends, and then find a whole wack of similar stuff the next time I go to YouTube.

    that's not FB picking up on it if you are watching them on FB... it is FB telling YT that you watched them and YT's algorithm taking it from there... if the videos you watch on FB are hosted on YT, FB may not be doing anything since
    YT is already noting your connection and the video to use in the algorithm...

    )\/(ark

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to MARK LEWIS on Friday, April 12, 2019 22:30:00
    Mark,

    what ads?? NEVER /ever/ *ever* click on ads, period! */ever/*...

    I use a web browser add-on called "Fluff Busting Purity"
    (www.fbpurity.com). You set it up to block out things you don't want,
    and just have things you do want.

    Basically, I block out all the ads, group suggestions, etc. It makes
    for a much better Facebook experience.

    It works on most all web browsers...I used to use Chrome, but switched
    to Firefox yesterday, and I've been pleasantly surprised with Firefox.

    Daryl
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  • From Charles Stephenson@1:226/17 to Daryl Stout on Saturday, April 13, 2019 15:36:07
    Re: FB Part 1
    By: Daryl Stout to MARK LEWIS on Fri Apr 12 2019 10:30 pm

    what ads?? NEVER /ever/ *ever* click on ads, period! */ever/*...

    Sucks when you ACCIDENTALLY click on a ad, then FB gets all excited and taylors my ads for female products :\

    I use a web browser add-on called "Fluff Busting Purity" (www.fbpurity.com). You set it up to block out things you don't want,
    and just have things you do want.

    I'm going to have to check that out, sounds like something I REALLY need


    Regards,
    KrUpTiOn
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Charles Stephenson on Saturday, April 13, 2019 17:49:40

    On 2019 Apr 13 15:36:06, you wrote to Daryl Stout:

    I use a web browser add-on called "Fluff Busting Purity"
    (www.fbpurity.com). You set it up to block out things you don't want,
    and just have things you do want.

    I'm going to have to check that out, sounds like something I REALLY need

    KISS, man... KISS... noscript and adblockplus is all you really need... then there's the training period where you allow only certain sites in noscript... i
    always enable the protocol mechanism (can't remember the setting) so that i only allow those and not just anything from a site... some sites need additional sites to work properly but i'm extremely particular about which ones
    i allow... it takes time but once it is done, it works great...

    i don't use anything else than those two and downright refuse to use any others...

    )\/(ark

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Daryl Stout on Saturday, April 13, 2019 18:30:00
    Hello Daryl!

    ** 12.04.19 - 22:30, Daryl Stout wrote to MARK LEWIS:

    I use a web browser add-on called "Fluff Busting Purity"
    (www.fbpurity.com). You set it up to block out things you don't
    want, and just have things you do want.

    Basically, I block out all the ads, group suggestions, etc. It makes
    for a much better Facebook experience.

    Thanks for mentioning that. I will have to give that one a try.
    Currently, I have been using a combination of the uBlock and
    SocialAdblocker add-ons.


    ../|ug

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to CHARLES STEPHENSON on Saturday, April 13, 2019 20:01:00
    Charles,

    what ads?? NEVER /ever/ *ever* click on ads, period! */ever/*...

    Sucks when you ACCIDENTALLY click on a ad, then FB gets all excited and tayl CS>my ads for female products :\

    Before my wife died, I got several ads for feminine hygiene products
    in the mail. I asked her "What am I going to do with them??"...and she
    growled "Don't even go there". <G>

    I use a web browser add-on called "Fluff Busting Purity" (www.fbpurity.com). You set it up to block out things you don't want, and just have things you do want.

    I'm going to have to check that out, sounds like something I REALLY need

    The developer is constantly updating it, as Facebook keeps trying to circumvent what it does.

    For one thing, Facebook ALWAYS wants you to view "Top Stories", and
    will set it to that automatically. But, with Fluff Busting Purity (FBP),
    you can set it to "Most Recent". Setting it to "Friends Feed" can make
    it appear there are no posts (you've read everything already), and it
    says "you can find and add new friends". I was using "Friends Feed" for
    a time, but switched to "Most Recent" because of that. You can also TURN
    OFF the ENTIRE NEWS FEED, within FBP.

    With turning off the entire news feed, you can just concentrate on the
    groups you're part of in the "shortcuts section". That way, you don't
    spend half the day on Facebook.

    It is suggested on first use, you go in (click on FBP at the top) to customize your settings. But, it makes for a much more enjoyable
    Facebook experience.

    I will admit I went in the other day, and unjoined a bunch of groups
    and pages. I was spending far too much time on Facebook, and have got it
    now to under 2 dozen groups and pages...mainly for where I'm an admin,
    or where I post items on a regular basis.

    Daryl

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to AUGUST ABOLINS on Saturday, April 13, 2019 19:41:00
    August,
    Thanks for mentioning that. I will have to give that one a try. AA>Currently, I have been using a combination of the uBlock and AA>SocialAdblocker add-ons.

    I have Adblock Plus 2 in the browser for outside of Facebook, but
    Fluff Busting Purity is the PERFECT browser add-on to deal with, and get
    rid of all the "Facebook crap" that you don't want to see.

    Daryl

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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to Daryl Stout on Saturday, April 13, 2019 23:26:00
    Hello Daryl!

    ** 13.04.19 - 19:41, Daryl Stout wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS:

    I have Adblock Plus 2 in the browser for outside of Facebook, but
    Fluff Busting Purity is the PERFECT browser add-on to deal with, and get rid of all the "Facebook crap" that you don't want to see.

    There is actually one other add-on that I use specifiaclly for Facebook:

    (It is rather interesting to watch. Even though the FB page seems finished loading, this plugin will show you the number of requests it has blocked
    per session.)

    "Disconnect for Facebook. Disconnect for Facebook is an efficient firewall
    to disconnect third-party websites from accessing to your Facebook. Disconnect for Facebook is an efficient firewall to prevent Facebook from tracking the webpages you go to by blocking all Facebook related requests sent from all third-party websites. Although Facebook Disconnect blocks
    all traffic from third-party sites to Facebook servers but still you can visit your Facebook account with no problem.
    Features"

    "3 reasons to use Facebook Disconnect:
    Stops Facebook from tracking the webpages you go to
    Has a very low memory and CPU footprint
    Can be easily toggled on and off from the toolbar button
    "

    "Some useful notes
    1. What is the badge number on the toolbar button?
    The badge is an indicator of the number of blocked web-requests on the
    current page.
    "

    "2. How can I activate the extension?
    Once this extension is installed, there's nothing really much you need to
    do. Just click on the toolbar button. When the the color is red, it blocks
    all the Facebook related requests.
    "

    "Note:
    This is WebExtension implementation for my Facebook Disconnect add-on.
    This new implementation should be lighter and more stable. Please open bug reports in https://github.com/cluclead/facebook-disconnect if there is a
    bug with this version."


    ../|ug

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  • From KrUpTiOn@1:226/16 to All on Saturday, April 13, 2019 16:04:57
    Hello all!

    I just wanted to say it's a BEAUTIFUL day here in Ohio, nice spring-like weather!

    :)




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  • From August Abolins@2:221/1.58 to mark lewis on Saturday, April 13, 2019 23:41:00
    Hello mark!

    ** 12.04.19 - 08:49, mark lewis wrote to August Abolins:


    I hate the way FB picks up on some of the "shared posts" videos that I AA>> watch from my friends, and then find a whole wack of similar stuff the AA>> next time I go to YouTube.

    that's not FB picking up on it if you are watching them on FB... it is FB telling YT that you watched them and YT's algorithm taking it from
    there... if the videos you watch on FB are hosted on YT, FB may not be doing anything since YT is already noting your connection and the video to use in the algorithm...

    I know. :( That is *one* reason of many that I dislike FB.

    It really bugs me to see so many additional queries to trackers on most sites.

    Plus, some sites are not very efficient with their use of images, thus causing everything to load slow. But I digress..



    ../|ug

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to KRUPTION on Sunday, April 14, 2019 08:27:00
    I just wanted to say it's a BEAUTIFUL day here in Ohio, nice spring-like K>weather!

    Braggert. <G>

    Tornadoes were the rule in the Arklatex, Arklamiss, and MidSouth yesterday...and it looks like a wider area will be threatened Wednesday
    through Friday of the upcoming week...including Ohio.

    Daryl

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  • From Mike Powell@1:2320/105 to KRUPTION on Sunday, April 14, 2019 09:52:00
    I just wanted to say it's a BEAUTIFUL day here in Ohio, nice spring-like weather!

    Overall, it was nice in Kentucky yesterday also. Little dreary here this morning.

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to MIKE POWELL on Sunday, April 14, 2019 22:30:00
    Mike,

    I just wanted to say it's a BEAUTIFUL day here in Ohio, nice spring-like MP>> weather!

    Overall, it was nice in Kentucky yesterday also. Little dreary here this MP>morning.

    It was cloudy and chilly Sunday morning, but the sun came out and
    warmed it into the 50s this afternoon.

    I'm really concerned about the severe weather threat here Wednesday
    and Wednesday night. I saw numerous tornado watches out from the
    southeast US into the DelMarVa this evening.

    Daryl

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  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to mark lewis on Monday, April 15, 2019 06:40:08

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    On 2019 Apr 12 01:39:00, you wrote to Roger Nelson:

    [...]

    that's not FB picking up on it if you are watching them on FB... it is FB telling YT that you watched them and YT's algorithm taking it from
    there... if the videos you watch on FB are hosted on YT, FB may not be doing anything since YT is already noting your connection and the video
    to use in the algorithm...

    Does YT stand for "your television"?


    Regards,

    Roger

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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Roger Nelson on Monday, April 15, 2019 13:03:30

    On 2019 Apr 15 06:40:08, you wrote to me:


    that's not FB picking up on it if you are watching them on FB... it is
    FB telling YT that you watched them and YT's algorithm taking it from
    there... if the videos you watch on FB are hosted on YT, FB may not be
    doing anything since YT is already noting your connection and the video
    to use in the algorithm...

    Does YT stand for "your television"?

    ewwwtoobe

    )\/(ark

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  • From Roger Nelson@1:3828/7 to mark lewis on Monday, April 15, 2019 14:13:10
    On Mon Apr-15-2019 13:03, mark lewis (1:3634/12.73) wrote to Roger Nelson:

    On 2019 Apr 15 06:40:08, you wrote to me:

    that's not FB picking up on it if you are watching them on FB... it is
    FB telling YT that you watched them and YT's algorithm taking it from
    there... if the videos you watch on FB are hosted on YT, FB may not be
    doing anything since YT is already noting your connection and the video
    to use in the algorithm...

    Does YT stand for "your television"?

    ewwwtoobe

    Sorry. I forgot to put a smiley after the question.

    ...Starve a troll, feed a fever.


    Regards,

    Roger
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  • From KrUpTiOn@1:226/16 to Daryl Stout on Monday, April 15, 2019 19:33:25

    On Apr 15th 12:07 am Daryl Stout said...
    I just wanted to say it's a BEAUTIFUL day here in Ohio, nice spring-like K>weather!

    Braggert. <G>

    Tornadoes were the rule in the Arklatex, Arklamiss, and MidSouth yesterday...and it looks like a wider area will be threatened Wednesday through Friday of the upcoming week...including Ohio.



    Hehe....

    I spoke WAY too soon! today's high was 42 (Realfeel around 36!) Not to mention
    the day after I wrote that, the temp dropped and we had Tornado warnings in my
    area.. Next time I"m not gonna open my big mouth and just enjoy the weather!






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  • From KrUpTiOn@1:226/16 to Mike Powell on Monday, April 15, 2019 19:34:45


    On Apr 15th 12:07 am Mike Powell said...
    spring-like > weather!

    Overall, it was nice in Kentucky yesterday also. Little dreary here this morning.



    What part of Kentucky do you live? closer to the Ohio border?



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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Roger Nelson on Tuesday, April 16, 2019 10:37:22

    On 2019 Apr 15 14:13:10, you wrote to me:

    from there... if the videos you watch on FB are hosted on YT, FB may
    not be doing anything since YT is already noting your connection and
    the video to use in the algorithm...

    Does YT stand for "your television"?

    ewwwtoobe

    Sorry. I forgot to put a smiley after the question.

    hahaha... not a problem, my friend... not a problem :)


    )\/(ark

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  • From Daryl Stout@1:19/33 to KRUPTION on Tuesday, April 16, 2019 13:14:00
    I spoke WAY too soon! today's high was 42 (Realfeel around 36!) Not to menti
    the day after I wrote that, the temp dropped and we had Tornado warnings in area.. Next time I"m not gonna open my big mouth and just enjoy the weather!

    Would you like some more salted crow and humble pie?? <G>

    Daryl

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  • From KrUpTiOn@1:226/16 to Daryl Stout on Wednesday, April 17, 2019 00:30:38
    On Apr 17th 12:06 am Daryl Stout said...
    I spoke WAY too soon! today's high was 42 (Realfeel around 36!) Not to menti K> the day after I wrote that, the temp dropped and we had Tornado warnings in K> area.. Next time I"m not gonna open my big mouth and just enjoy the weather!

    Would you like some more salted crow and humble pie?? <G>





    See, Ohio weather is SO bi-polar! I was rushing out the door at 5am, didn't check the weather, I just put my head outside, it was cold, so I wore a thicker
    coat, even brought my gloves! I got home arounde 11pm, and I was sweating while outside so I had to carry my lug my coat around!

    Supposed to be in the 70's next few days here! :)



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  • From Roman Litvinenko@1:267/67.1 to KrUpTiOn on Tuesday, April 30, 2019 00:20:06
    Hello KrUpTiOn!

    Replying to a message of KrUpTiOn to Daryl Stout:

    See, Ohio weather is SO bi-polar! I was rushing out the door at 5am, didn't check the weather, I just put my head outside, it was cold, so
    I wore a thicker coat, even brought my gloves! I got home arounde
    11pm, and I was sweating while outside so I had to carry my lug my
    coat around!
    It was the same kind of weather in NYC, and I guess it is still like this out there.
    I moved to Austin, TX last week, nice and sunny in here. Though I keep hearing that soon it is going to be very very hot :)

    Best regards,
    Roman!

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  • From KrUpTiOn@1:226/16 to Roman Litvinenko on Tuesday, April 30, 2019 21:59:31
    On Apr 30th 9:48 am Roman Litvinenko said...
    coat around! It was the same kind of weather in NYC, and I guess it is still like this out there. I moved to Austin, TX last week, nice and sunny in here. Though I keep hearing that soon it is going to be very very hot :)


    I have some In-Laws in Texas, I think they're in or close to El Paso. Moved there from Ohio. They said the first 2 years it was tough getting used to the hot weather there! I'll see for myself one day, going to go visit them next summer.. :)



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  • From Shane O'Neill@1:305/3 to KrUpTiOn on Thursday, May 02, 2019 08:36:18
    I have some In-Laws in Texas, I think they're in or close to El Paso. Moved there from Ohio. They said the first 2 years it was tough getting used to the hot weather there! I'll see for myself one day, going to go

    Living most my life in the Southwest, El Paso is a dry
    heat with wind (we call anything under 50mph a breeze) compared to Austin
    which is a humid heat. I have lived in El Paso, Tucson, Phx, Abq, etc... And
    of them all I came back to Rio Rancho (neighbor city of Abq) decades ago as
    we get 4 seasons unlike a some of the southwest cites. Once you start to tire of the current season then next one is starting up so that is fun. Our heat
    is dry, we get snow on average and 100+ degree in July. Breeze, here in
    central NM is any wind under 50mph is a breeze...At my house the weather station will commonly record 55-75+mph winds.

    Austin is a beautiful city for sure! Unfortunately the humidity kills my
    asthma though.

    One thing I miss living in El Paso is the thunder storms, the sound of the thunder is unlike anywhere else!

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  • From KrUpTiOn@1:226/16 to Shane O'Neill on Friday, May 03, 2019 19:13:32


    On May 2nd 11:32 am Shane O'Neill said...
    heat. I have lived in El Paso, Tucson, Phx, Abq, etc... And of them all I came back to Rio Rancho (neighbor city of Abq) decades ago as we get 4 seasons unlike a some of the southwest cites. Once you start to tire of the current season then next one is starting up so that is fun. Our heat is dry, we get snow on average and 100+ degree in July. Breeze, here in central NM is any wind under 50mph is a breeze...At my house the weather station will commonly record 55-75+mph winds.


    That sounds awesome! On my bucket list, is to visit Texas. It'll prolly happen soon. Sounds like a great place have fun.....and get old at! :)


    Austin is a beautiful city for sure! Unfortunately the humidity kills my asthma though.


    I'm sure! Up her in Ohio, the Poll is what kills me. I've never lived in a city
    where that wasn't a issue! I Have dreamed/thought about moving someplace where
    it wouldn't be a issue. But knowing me, something else would prolly pop up!





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