Hello Aaron,
Hillary Clinton received almost 3 million votes more than
Bush lost the popular vote against Al Gore, but still won the electoral
vote. Why was everyone ok with that? (for the most part?)
The Florida legislator was prepared to ditch the popular vote
had all valid votes cast been counted, showing Gore the winner.
That would have enabled the Florida legislature to name its
own electors, which would have voted for GWB. Remember, the
Florida legislature was controlled by Republicans at the time.
With Kathleen Harris, a Republican, as Secretary of State.
This was not acceptable to Democrats, most Independents, and
many Republicans who were aware of what was going on. It was
a rigged election, plain and simple.
Then came the USSC decision, the 9 justices voting 5-4 in
favor of GWB, making it the closest election in US history.
Bush started an armed conflict with 2 nations, neither nation did anything
to us, but that's ok and we all love him despite that he didn't try to
secure our borders.
GWB was incompetent. But not quite as incompetent as what we
have today. Afghanistan hardly qualified as a nation back then,
and hardly qualifies today. It is more a tribal area, the only
halfway civilized places being guarded areas of Kabul. GWB
claimed he sent the US military there to find Osama bin Laden
and weed out al-Qaeda. He managed to do neither, and the
Taliban remains very much in place. Remnants of al-Qaeda
morphed into ISIS, and continue to wreak havoc in various
places around the world.
Iraq was a war of choice, the first time the US acted as
an aggressor. And what did the US get for its efforts?
When Clinton lied, nobody died. When Bush lied, thousands
died. That is something we should all remember.
We have secure borders. And we should continue to keep
our borders secure, finding new and better means to do so.
But a wall? That makes us less secure? And costs far
more than what would should be spend on border security?
Not a good way to waste taxpayer money.
Then again, GWB never did call for such a stupid wall.
So he can be forgiven.
However, he did lose a city. And that was very much his own fault.
Now we've got another sneaky Republican who's pulled the same trick in our
election, but he's getting all kinds of hate because he wants to secure the border with Mexico, stands with Israel, and supports Christian values.
Building a wall on the US/Mexican border does not make us safer.
And the cost of doing so is massive, especially in comparison with
other ways that make us safer at much less expense.
Recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital and moving the US embassy
there only serves to infuriate the Palestinians, as they hold the
city of Jerusalem as also being their capital. By choosing not to
recognize Palestine as a state, with its own capital, and refusing
to establish or move a US embassy in their capital is a slap in
the face of every Palestinian.
Recognizing the Golan Heights as being a part of Israel is also
a violation of international law, as the Golan is clearly Syrian
territory. Recognizing the West Bank as part of Israel is also
a violation of international law, as the West Bank is also clearly
part of Palestine, as defined by the United Nations.
The UN partition of Palestine was to be into two parts.
One for Jewish Palestinians, the other for Arab Palestinians.
Both sides rejected the partition, with the Jewish Palestinians
choosing to invade Arab Palestinians in order to claim more
than their fair share.
The status of Jerusalem, as set up by the UN partition, was
not determined, having been left up to the Jewish Palestinians
and Arab Palestinians to later decide for themselves.
Fact of the matter is that US President supports Jewish values,
not Christian values. It is also very clear he does not support
Muslim values, and would prefer deporting every Muslim from this
country if possible.
Kamala Harris is from California. Just think how many more votes
Kamala could kill the popular vote for sure, but she's going to have the
same problem as Hillary with the electoral vote. The electoral voters are probably not interested in someone who's big campaign promises are "Sue ourselves" and "Let's get stoned and listen to gangsta rap."
I doubt it would make much difference if a popular vote or
electoral vote system were to be used in the next election.
Although the electoral vote system might make for a closer
election, the end result would likely be the same.
Trump's approval ratings are at 39% nationally, with some of
the states he won (electoral votes) being even lower. Not just
in the midwest, but also elsewhere. IOW, a president in deep
doo-doo.
Just think if Kamala Harris pairs up with that Irishman from Texas.
Anything to win popular votes, right? But nothing to win electoral votes.
Trump needs Florida, Texas, Ohio, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, maybe
Minnesota, and a solid South. Just to have a chance.
If the Democratic nominee wins California, Texas, Florida,
and New York, it is good night Donald Trump. Even without Texas,
a win in Pennsylvania would do him in.
--Lee
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