• Re: The stay home and not

    From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to OTTO REVERSE on Tuesday, January 25, 2022 16:18:00
    Socialism etc don't work anywhere. Never have.

    Norway and Switzerland aren't socialist. They are high-tax welfare states. The
    S is a low-tax (relatively) welfare state. The Scandinavian countries are free
    arket capitalist nations. But they have large social programs (which is not so
    alism) paid for by high taxes.

    There is an alleged Swede in the FIDO POLITICS echo who claims that Sweden
    and Norway are socialists and are perfect examples of it.

    I have been wanting to burst his bubble but don't feel motivated enough to
    do so. :)


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Tuesday, January 25, 2022 23:42:38
    Re: Re: The stay home and not
    By: Dumas Walker to OTTO REVERSE on Tue Jan 25 2022 04:18 pm

    There is an alleged Swede in the FIDO POLITICS echo who claims that Sweden and Norway are socialists and are perfect examples of it.

    I have been wanting to burst his bubble but don't feel motivated enough to do so. :)


    they have a lot of socialist policies.
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MRO on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 16:22:00
    There is an alleged Swede in the FIDO POLITICS echo who claims that Sweden and Norway are socialists and are perfect examples of it.

    I have been wanting to burst his bubble but don't feel motivated enough to do so. :)


    they have a lot of socialist policies.

    That they do, but they heavily tax their capitalist businesses (and
    citizens) in order to provide those socialist policies.


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  • From Otto Reverse@VERT/BEERS20 to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 15:47:00
    There is an alleged Swede in the FIDO POLITICS echo who claims that
    Sweden and Norway are socialists and are perfect examples of it.

    lol, well he likely is just "alleged" and not an actual Swede. Sweden did experiment with socialism (60s and 70s) if I recall) but eventually realized it was bringing them down hard and they managed to shake it off.
  • From Otto Reverse@VERT/BEERS20 to MRO on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 15:57:00
    they have a lot of socialist policies.

    Not trying to be a jerk or sound anti-American, so please don't take it that way. But that is a very American take that has always been false. Socialism is when the government owns the means of production. Venezuela is a true socialist nation. They first nationalized the petroleum industry then when they ran out of money they nationalized other industries.

    Yes socialist countries like to have lots of social programs like the Scandinavian countries. But they try to afford those social programs by said nationalization of industry. Whereas the Scandinavian countries pay for it through high taxes. The socialists like to pretend industry will pay for it because before socialism they were greedy and corrupt. Whereas the Scandinavians know their taxes are paying for their services. They don't have any delusions about "free health care". They can read their pay stubs and tax returns. Being small mostly homogeneous countries greatly helps them too.
  • From Andeddu@VERT/AMSTRAD to Dumas Walker on Wednesday, January 26, 2022 21:35:55
    Re: Re: The stay home and not
    By: Dumas Walker to OTTO REVERSE on Tue Jan 25 2022 04:18 pm

    There is an alleged Swede in the FIDO POLITICS echo who claims that Sweden and Norway are socialists and are perfect examples of it.

    I have been wanting to burst his bubble but don't feel motivated enough to do so. :)

    Both were capitalist free-market economies for many decades. They have only recently been taken over by rabbid socialists and both have paid very dearly for it.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to OTTO REVERSE on Thursday, January 27, 2022 16:03:00
    There is an alleged Swede in the FIDO POLITICS echo who claims that Sweden and Norway are socialists and are perfect examples of it.

    lol, well he likely is just "alleged" and not an actual Swede. Sweden did exp
    iment with socialism (60s and 70s) if I recall) but eventually realized it was
    ringing them down hard and they managed to shake it off.

    It is difficult to finance those social programs without enough people who
    are making money and paying heavy taxes on it.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to OTTO REVERSE on Thursday, January 27, 2022 16:51:00
    lol, well he likely is just "alleged" and not an actual Swede. Sweden did exp
    iment with socialism (60s and 70s) if I recall) but eventually realized it was
    ringing them down hard and they managed to shake it off.

    I think he is but likes to make Swedes, and himself, sound superior to
    others.


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  • From Otto Reverse@VERT/BEERS20 to Dumas Walker on Friday, January 28, 2022 17:06:00
    It is difficult to finance those social programs without enough people
    who are making money and paying heavy taxes on it.

    Right. Which is why it works well in Scandinavian countries that are small and largely homogeneous societies that agree to work and pay said taxes in exchange for the services.